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2005 Oregon Quarter proof doubled-die _and_ mechanical doubling found
This evening if have compared my 2005s Oregon proof quarter with an
ANACS-graded 1956-D/D quarter. Both were purchased on Ebay. Another ng reader kindly posted this site http://www.coingalaxy.com/infostart/index.html as a good location for determining the difference between doubled-die coins and MDD coins. Close examination of the proof quarter set indicates only one coin is a doubled die: the 2005s Oregon quarter. Doubling is present in the "QUARTER DOLLAR" and mint mark. Doubling is especially apparent in the R, E, D, O, and A. The mint mark "s" clearly shows a separate serif. In addition, "IN GOD WE TRUST" appears to be mechanically doubled (MDD). The letters are squashed, with a step appearing on either side of all, or almost all, letters. I have at least 3 other proof sets from the Mint as well. All 3 of these sets have at least some MDD. I have not checked the others for the doubled die yet. Wasn't the new manufacturing process supposed to prevent any doubled die varieties from happening during the state quarter sets? Daniel B. Wheeler |
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Thanks for posting, Phil.
I should have said it was my opinion. But it was also a very studied opinion. I did not use a 10x loup for my comparison, but a 100x MICRONTA Illuminated Microscope and 8x Magnifier. I would not trust my own naked eye opinion because of my poor eyesite. However, the "s" doubled-die is as strong as the1956-D/D doubled-die in my opinion. Under 100x, they appears neither more nor less separated. I believe the "s" is less easy to see the doubled serif with than the D, but that again is just my opinion. Here's the kicker: under the other proof sets I got from the Mint earlier this year, I found _another_ quarter which also has a doubled-die "s". I'm still looking to hear from other people whether they have found a 2005s proof doubled-die quarter. However, it appears from the 4 proof 2005s Oregon quarters I own that the double-die is not uncommon. It does seem odd though that none of the other quarters (with one exception) shows any indication of either double-die or mechanical double die - even under 100x. Daniel B. Wheeler |
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wrote in message ups.com... This evening if have compared my 2005s Oregon proof quarter with an ANACS-graded 1956-D/D quarter. Both were purchased on Ebay. Another ng reader kindly posted this site http://www.coingalaxy.com/infostart/index.html as a good location for determining the difference between doubled-die coins and MDD coins. Close examination of the proof quarter set indicates only one coin is a doubled die: the 2005s Oregon quarter. Doubling is present in the "QUARTER DOLLAR" and mint mark. Doubling is especially apparent in the R, E, D, O, and A. The mint mark "s" clearly shows a separate serif. In addition, "IN GOD WE TRUST" appears to be mechanically doubled (MDD). The letters are squashed, with a step appearing on either side of all, or almost all, letters. I have at least 3 other proof sets from the Mint as well. All 3 of these sets have at least some MDD. I have not checked the others for the doubled die yet. Wasn't the new manufacturing process supposed to prevent any doubled die varieties from happening during the state quarter sets? Daniel B. Wheeler Oh brother-- ;-) You cannot have a doubled die '05 SHQ proof since they did not mash a working hub into a working die more than one time. Double means twice. Everything called a doubled die since the '95 DD Lincoln is not a doubled die. It's just marketing. They are either die abrasion doubling (what yours is more than likely--check out the mushy strike and the wavy-looking field around the MM) or a defective working hub that was not annealed correctly which produced a doubling effect. Machine or ejection double damage would look all sheared off and the flat areas look shiny. Also with die abrasion doubling you can get some serifs that will be separated. If it were a mis-aligned double strike the reverse would be doubled as well. I'll give you a great example of what is not a doubled die but they call it such--'04P Keelboat Jeffs. You can find die state progressions right up to and past the point of where they look like doubled dies. I know because I got some in a jar. The late die states have totally missing letters but they'll still have a double-looking 4 in the date. One that I have has a double looking eyeball--ewww it's freaky! It's just plain die abrasion doubling. Same with '04 Lincolns that they call doubled dies. They made how many billions of these coins? Odds are you can find images of the Virgin Mary stamped into newer coins if you look at enough of them. You'd be better off finding something like that. |
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