how to make soccer and ice hockey popular in the US

simon wrote:
In fact the term 'football' has nothing to do with using the foot on the
ball, but was first used to distinguish games played with feet on the
ground, as opposed to on horseback...

Really all these football fans should know this stuff by now.

Afraid I hadn't heard that "football" meant game played on foot ... and
for that matter, I thought that "horseball" was a game played on a
Russian empress.

P

simon wrote in message ...
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fruitbat writes
AIUI, "soccer" was originally a British term anyway. That American
football very rarely uses the foot on the ball is admittedly pretty
silly, but sometimes it seems that it's merely the fact that the term
"soccer" is still used here that irks the rest of the world, which in
my opinion is ridiculous.

In fact the term 'football' has nothing to do with using the foot on the
ball, but was first used to distinguish games played with feet on the
ground, as opposed to on horseback. 'Football' as played in the C17th
involved moving the ball towards the other team's goal by any means
possible, including carrying it.
The term 'soccer' originated in Britain in the late C19th as a way of
distinguishing As_soc_iation from rugby football.

Really all these football fans should know this stuff by now.

Although i'm a history fan it's just HISTORY that it's a Brittish
term. Only a few countries in the world uses the term soccer just as
few countries in the world uses miles instead of kilometers. No big
deal actually, that's why i wrote it in paranthesis.

In message , Jens
Stigson writes
The term 'soccer' originated in Britain in the late C19th as a way of
distinguishing As_soc_iation from rugby football.

Really all these football fans should know this stuff by now.

Although i'm a history fan it's just HISTORY that it's a Brittish term.
Only a few countries in the world uses the term soccer just as few
countries in the world uses miles instead of kilometers. No big deal
actually, that's why i wrote it in paranthesis.

The thing is, 'soccer' was a widely used term in Britain until in the
80s people began to be aware that it was the default name in the U.S.
(you can guess the rest). If you looked at football books, newspaper
reports etc. from the 70s and before, you would see what I mean. One can
call it 'history' if one wants, but the fact is the British stopped
using the term quite recently, and for pretty silly reasons.

--
Simon

simon wrote in message ...
In message , Jens
Stigson writes
The term 'soccer' originated in Britain in the late C19th as a way of
distinguishing As_soc_iation from rugby football.

Really all these football fans should know this stuff by now.

Although i'm a history fan it's just HISTORY that it's a Brittish term.
Only a few countries in the world uses the term soccer just as few
countries in the world uses miles instead of kilometers. No big deal
actually, that's why i wrote it in paranthesis.

The thing is, 'soccer' was a widely used term in Britain until in the
80s people began to be aware that it was the default name in the U.S.
(you can guess the rest). If you looked at football books, newspaper
reports etc. from the 70s and before, you would see what I mean. One can
call it 'history' if one wants, but the fact is the British stopped
using the term quite recently, and for pretty silly reasons.

Just history and Britain, not where i spend my days (where we have
called "fotboll" all the time).

On 1 Jul 2005 00:45:21 -0700, (Jens Stigson) wrote:
simon wrote in message ...
In message , Jens
Stigson writes
The term 'soccer' originated in Britain in the late C19th as a way of
distinguishing As_soc_iation from rugby football.

Really all these football fans should know this stuff by now.

Although i'm a history fan it's just HISTORY that it's a Brittish term.
Only a few countries in the world uses the term soccer just as few
countries in the world uses miles instead of kilometers. No big deal
actually, that's why i wrote it in paranthesis.

The thing is, 'soccer' was a widely used term in Britain until in the
80s people began to be aware that it was the default name in the U.S.
(you can guess the rest). If you looked at football books, newspaper
reports etc. from the 70s and before, you would see what I mean. One can
call it 'history' if one wants, but the fact is the British stopped
using the term quite recently, and for pretty silly reasons.

Just history and Britain, not where i spend my days (where we have
called "fotboll" all the time).

And of course, the correct term for the American version would be
'hand ovoid'.

// JJ

simon wrote:

The thing is, 'soccer' was a widely used term in Britain until in the
80s people began to be aware that it was the default name in the U.S.
(you can guess the rest). If you looked at football books, newspaper
reports etc. from the 70s and before, you would see what I mean. One can
call it 'history' if one wants, but the fact is the British stopped
using the term quite recently, and for pretty silly reasons.


There was a British show called "Soccer made in Germany", British
announcers calling German club soccer. I used to watch in back in the
late 80's on PBS. They called it nothing but soccer as I recall.

They were good announcers, I still remember the ominous pronouncements
like, "We're well into injury time now, Hamburg are desperate for a
goal."



Brian

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Default User wrote:

simon wrote:
The thing is, 'soccer' was a widely used term in Britain until in the
80s people began to be aware that it was the default name in the U.S.

There was a British show called "Soccer made in Germany", British
announcers calling German club soccer. I used to watch in back in the
late 80's on PBS. They called it nothing but soccer as I recall.
Minor correction: the show was from Deutcshe Welle -- it wasn't
British. Just used British announcers. (And as the show was made
for the US, they naturally avoided the term "Football" (:-/)

They were good announcers, I still remember the ominous pronouncements
like, "We're well into injury time now, Hamburg are desperate for a
goal."
Yeah, I remember that voice...! Forgotten his name, though. Anyone
recall it?

-- Pete --

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In rec.sport.soccer Pete wrote:
Yeah, I remember that voice...! Forgotten his name, though. Anyone
recall it?

Toby Charles. For many of us footy fans here in the US, he was our
first taste of the game, and is thought of with great reverence. He stil
calls BL matches, BTW.

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In rec.sport.soccer Pete wrote:
Yeah, I remember that voice...! Forgotten his name, though. Anyone
recall it?

Toby Charles. For many of us footy fans here in the US, he was our
first taste of the game, and is thought of with great reverence. He stil
calls BL matches, BTW.

Ah, yes... Thanks! Good to know he's still active.

-- Pete --



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So shall we rename this topic to "Popular in Corporate America!"?
So does that mean that the "Normal" Americans do everything that
"Corporate" Americans tell them too?
Is that not classed as then being "not very bright"?

A big YES there.