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US dollar minting question
per my usual habits, the last time we visited the bank for a transaction
I requested some halves, $2 bills and any dollar coins for change. We got a full roll of Andrew Johnsons, wrapper also marked as such. Since I usually get a mix of nice to circulated loose coins, we usually just spot check them to see whats in the mix and then spend spend spend. This Time since I had a clean roll of BU coins I gave the entire group a nice looking over. One thing I had noted in the past but never pursued looking into was the rim marking orientation. What are the steps taken to do the rim markings? Are the rims done before or after the coins are pressed? I ask this because its very obvious that they take no care as to which side of the coin blank is the Face compared to the rim markings. With a stack of coins all arranged face up, the rim lettering can be 'right side up' or 'upside down' |
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"Hp" wrote in message ... per my usual habits, the last time we visited the bank for a transaction I requested some halves, $2 bills and any dollar coins for change. We got a full roll of Andrew Johnsons, wrapper also marked as such. Since I usually get a mix of nice to circulated loose coins, we usually just spot check them to see whats in the mix and then spend spend spend. This Time since I had a clean roll of BU coins I gave the entire group a nice looking over. One thing I had noted in the past but never pursued looking into was the rim marking orientation. What are the steps taken to do the rim markings? Are the rims done before or after the coins are pressed? I ask this because its very obvious that they take no care as to which side of the coin blank is the Face compared to the rim markings. With a stack of coins all arranged face up, the rim lettering can be 'right side up' or 'upside down' For the uncirculated versions, the edge lettering is applied after the coin is struck. That accounts for those that were released without the edge lettering. The proof versions have the edge lettering as part of the collar die and so get the lettering when the coin is struck. |
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On 3/11/2011 12:18 PM, Beanie wrote:
wrote in message ... per my usual habits, the last time we visited the bank for a transaction I requested some halves, $2 bills and any dollar coins for change. We got a full roll of Andrew Johnsons, wrapper also marked as such. Since I usually get a mix of nice to circulated loose coins, we usually just spot check them to see whats in the mix and then spend spend spend. This Time since I had a clean roll of BU coins I gave the entire group a nice looking over. One thing I had noted in the past but never pursued looking into was the rim marking orientation. What are the steps taken to do the rim markings? Are the rims done before or after the coins are pressed? I ask this because its very obvious that they take no care as to which side of the coin blank is the Face compared to the rim markings. With a stack of coins all arranged face up, the rim lettering can be 'right side up' or 'upside down' For the uncirculated versions, the edge lettering is applied after the coin is struck. That accounts for those that were released without the edge lettering. The proof versions have the edge lettering as part of the collar die and so get the lettering when the coin is struck. I have seen auction for Type A and Type B proofs thought that meant which way the lettering was. If it is collard on a proof how do they get two verities Aklarry |
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On Mar 11, 4:56*pm, Larry wrote:
On 3/11/2011 12:18 PM, Beanie wrote: *wrote in ... per my usual habits, the last time we visited the bank for a transaction I requested some halves, $2 bills and any dollar coins for change. We got a full roll of Andrew Johnsons, wrapper also marked as such. Since I usually get a mix of nice to circulated loose coins, we usually just spot check them to see whats in the mix and then spend spend spend. This Time since I had a clean roll of BU coins I gave the entire group a nice looking over. One thing I had noted in the past but never pursued looking into was the rim marking orientation. *What are the steps taken to do the rim markings? Are the rims done before or after the coins are pressed? I ask this because its very obvious that they take no care as to which side of the coin blank is the Face compared to the rim markings. With a stack of coins all arranged face up, the rim lettering can be 'right side up' or 'upside down' For the uncirculated versions, the edge lettering is applied after the coin is struck. That accounts for those that were released without the edge lettering. The proof versions have the edge lettering as part of the collar die and so get the lettering when the coin is struck. I have seen auction for Type A and Type B proofs thought that meant which way the lettering was. If it is collard on a proof how do they get two verities Aklarry Hey, welcome back, Larry! Jerry |
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On 3/11/2011 4:56 PM, Larry wrote:
On 3/11/2011 12:18 PM, Beanie wrote: wrote in message ... per my usual habits, the last time we visited the bank for a transaction I requested some halves, $2 bills and any dollar coins for change. We got a full roll of Andrew Johnsons, wrapper also marked as such. Since I usually get a mix of nice to circulated loose coins, we usually just spot check them to see whats in the mix and then spend spend spend. This Time since I had a clean roll of BU coins I gave the entire group a nice looking over. One thing I had noted in the past but never pursued looking into was the rim marking orientation. What are the steps taken to do the rim markings? Are the rims done before or after the coins are pressed? I ask this because its very obvious that they take no care as to which side of the coin blank is the Face compared to the rim markings. With a stack of coins all arranged face up, the rim lettering can be 'right side up' or 'upside down' For the uncirculated versions, the edge lettering is applied after the coin is struck. That accounts for those that were released without the edge lettering. The proof versions have the edge lettering as part of the collar die and so get the lettering when the coin is struck. I have seen auction for Type A and Type B proofs thought that meant which way the lettering was. If it is collard on a proof how do they get two verities Aklarry Ok, since I was fairly uninformed about Type A and Type B designations I did some learning: upside down (Type A) edge lettering right side up (Type B) edge lettering BUT these descriptions did Not Specifically state in relationship to the obverse side of the coin. (so I am inferring that so far) |
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US dollar minting question
While I cannot speak for the way the US Mint strikes their coins, the
Royal Mint strikes their one pound and two pound coins with edge lettering. This is applied to the blanks before striking, then the blanks are struck on the press with a reeded collar, so the finished coin has an inscription on a reeded background. Thus there is an approximately even chance of the coins having the inscription upright or inverted. This is also why narrow letters such as I sometimes are missing, as they can close up during striking. By their nature, coins struck using an inscribed collar tend to have all their edge inscriptions the same way up. -- Tony Clayton |
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On Mar 11, 11:53*am, Hp wrote:
per my usual habits, the last time we visited the bank for a transaction I requested some halves, $2 bills and any dollar coins for change. We got a full roll of Andrew Johnsons, wrapper also marked as such. Since I usually get a mix of nice to circulated loose coins, we usually just spot check them to see whats in the mix and then spend spend spend. This Time since I had a clean roll of BU coins I gave the entire group a nice looking over. One thing I had noted in the past but never pursued looking into was the rim marking orientation. *What are the steps taken to do the rim markings? Are the rims done before or after the coins are pressed? I ask this because its very obvious that they take no care as to which side of the coin blank is the Face compared to the rim markings. With a stack of coins all arranged face up, the rim lettering can be 'right side up' or 'upside down' You have standard circualtion coins. There is not set orientation as the edge lettering is applied seperately from the regular stamping of the obverse/reverse. The exact order of when each is done is detailed somewhere on the web. I don't have it at my fingertips. your circulation ("business strike") coins are nor "uncirculated" as they are struck slightly differently. Again, that exact info is on the web. |
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On 3/14/2011 5:15 PM, shreadvector wrote:
On Mar 11, 11:53 am, wrote: per my usual habits, the last time we visited the bank for a transaction I requested some halves, $2 bills and any dollar coins for change. We got a full roll of Andrew Johnsons, wrapper also marked as such. Since I usually get a mix of nice to circulated loose coins, we usually just spot check them to see whats in the mix and then spend spend spend. This Time since I had a clean roll of BU coins I gave the entire group a nice looking over. One thing I had noted in the past but never pursued looking into was the rim marking orientation. What are the steps taken to do the rim markings? Are the rims done before or after the coins are pressed? I ask this because its very obvious that they take no care as to which side of the coin blank is the Face compared to the rim markings. With a stack of coins all arranged face up, the rim lettering can be 'right side up' or 'upside down' You have standard circualtion coins. There is not set orientation as the edge lettering is applied seperately from the regular stamping of the obverse/reverse. The exact order of when each is done is detailed somewhere on the web. I don't have it at my fingertips. your circulation ("business strike") coins are nor "uncirculated" as they are struck slightly differently. Again, that exact info is on the web. So by your definition a fresh from the mint to be circulated coin can't be BU ?? Color me confuzed! |
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On Mar 14, 4:22*pm, Hp wrote:
On 3/14/2011 5:15 PM, shreadvector wrote: On Mar 11, 11:53 am, *wrote: per my usual habits, the last time we visited the bank for a transaction I requested some halves, $2 bills and any dollar coins for change. We got a full roll of Andrew Johnsons, wrapper also marked as such. Since I usually get a mix of nice to circulated loose coins, we usually just spot check them to see whats in the mix and then spend spend spend. This Time since I had a clean roll of BU coins I gave the entire group a nice looking over. One thing I had noted in the past but never pursued looking into was the rim marking orientation. *What are the steps taken to do the rim markings? Are the rims done before or after the coins are pressed? I ask this because its very obvious that they take no care as to which side of the coin blank is the Face compared to the rim markings. With a stack of coins all arranged face up, the rim lettering can be 'right side up' or 'upside down' You have standard circualtion coins. There is not set orientation as the edge lettering is applied seperately from the regular stamping of the obverse/reverse. The exact order of when each is done is detailed somewhere on the web. I don't have it at my fingertips. your circulation ("business strike") coins are nor "uncirculated" as they are struck slightly differently. Again, that exact info is on the web. So by your definition a fresh from the mint to be circulated coin can't be BU ?? Color me confuzed!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I did not say that. i was clarifying the confusing response provided by others. They were telling you that you had "Uncirculated" strikes and were describing how the "Uncirculated" strikes were produced, which is not the same production process as is used to produce normal circulation quality business strike coins that simply happen to be 'uncirculated' because their rolls have not been opened and they have not been handled yet. |
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