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Old June 27th 08, 04:05 PM posted to alt.collecting.pens-pencils
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On 2008-06-27, The Drunken Lord wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 06:50:39 +0000, MatthewK
wrote:

Well, I bought some dip pen stuff and here is what I got:

A variety of speedball nibs/holders and 24 colors of bombay
ink.

The colors are great and that stuff is incredibly tenacious.
I've not figured out the best nib/ink combos yet but used a
sepia to pen a letter with a c-5 nib I think. It was not as
consistent as I would like but that could be said about more
than the ink/nib combo. Along those lines, does anybody know of
any italic writting nibs rather than calligraphy? Wonder if
Williams-Mitchell might be a better choice.


If you come up with any italic or stub nibs that top the Speedball
C-5, please post about.


Thanks for the advice. Maybe I'll have to modify something?
I'll keep everyone posted if I do.

matthew
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Old June 27th 08, 11:13 PM posted to alt.collecting.pens-pencils
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In article ,
MatthewK wrote:

I guess maybe it's not fair to call these "letters" that I
write. They are really one page letters or fold-notes. Does
anybody else here do simple fold-notes or the like?


When I write a letter, it is usually about a page to five pages on monarch
sized sheets. I have a slightly wider and longer hand that doesn't lend
itself well to fitting my verbosity into a fold-note.

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Old June 28th 08, 03:38 AM posted to alt.collecting.pens-pencils
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On 2008-06-27, Aaron W. Hsu wrote:
In article ,
MatthewK wrote:

I guess maybe it's not fair to call these "letters" that I
write. They are really one page letters or fold-notes. Does
anybody else here do simple fold-notes or the like?


When I write a letter, it is usually about a page to five pages on monarch
sized sheets. I have a slightly wider and longer hand that doesn't lend
itself well to fitting my verbosity into a fold-note.


This next time I'm going to see just how much I can cram into a
letter-fold and still have it less than a 1/4in thick. My
letters usually have pictures in tow. I guess fold-note is the
wrong term and letter-fold is more proper for what I'm doing.

matthew
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Old June 28th 08, 11:44 AM posted to alt.collecting.pens-pencils
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"MatthewK" wrote in message
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On 2008-06-27, Aaron W. Hsu wrote:
In article ,
MatthewK wrote:

I guess maybe it's not fair to call these "letters" that I
write. They are really one page letters or fold-notes. Does
anybody else here do simple fold-notes or the like?


When I write a letter, it is usually about a page to five pages on
monarch
sized sheets. I have a slightly wider and longer hand that doesn't lend
itself well to fitting my verbosity into a fold-note.


This next time I'm going to see just how much I can cram into a
letter-fold and still have it less than a 1/4in thick. My
letters usually have pictures in tow. I guess fold-note is the
wrong term and letter-fold is more proper for what I'm doing.


Terminology:

Notes are notes...short. Letters are letters...longer than notes.

Notes are written on fold-over notes or on correspondence cards. As
mentioned in other posts, a correspondence card without an envelope may be
mailed as a postcard.

A fold-over note is approximately 3-13/16" x 5-5/16" and has a horizontal
fold at the top. It can be inserted into its matching envelope without
having to fold it further.

Correspondence cards are card stock. They are not folded for insertion into
their envelopes.

Letters are one page or longer. Letter sheets have to be folded before being
inserted into their envelopes.

Men write letters on Monarch letter sheets (approx. 7-1/4" x 10-1/2").

Women write letters on half sheets (approx. 6-1/4" x 8-1/2") or folded
double letter sheets (approx. 5-1/4" x 7-1/4" with a vertical fold on the
left). They also use Monarch sheets. Crane is now calling its half sheets,
"letter sheets," and calls its folded double letter sheets, "folded letter
sheets."

A basic stationery wardrobe consists of:

1. Standard sheets (8-1/2" x 11" in the U.S., A4 elsewhere) and matching
business envelopes.

2. Correspondence cards and/or fold-over notes with matching envelopes.

3. Letter sheets - Monarch/half/folded double with matching envelopes.

By "matching" envelopes, I mean envelopes made for that size of stationery,
not necessarily matching in color.

FWIW, in case you ever want to buy stationery as a gift for a female, I've
never received a letter from a woman using a folded double letter sheet.
Half sheets are the most popular size and Monarch sheets are next.


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Old June 28th 08, 12:03 PM posted to alt.collecting.pens-pencils
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"MatthewK" wrote in message
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On 2008-06-27, Bluesea wrote:

On Saturday, I painted my first picture and decided I could decorate my
plain pearl white notes and correspondence cards with little watercolor
paintings. Since my cousin's wife's birthday is coming up, and her
favorite
color is yellow-green, I next painted part of a lime onto the front of a
note that I'll use as a birthday greeting. I posted a photo of it in
binaries if anyone wants to see it.


That is a cool idea and I saw the picture you uploaded.


Thanks.

I think Noodler's bulletproof inks would be better for these types of
decorations for those who are able to do pen-and-ink drawings. Since I'm
not
there, yet, I've been wondering if I should put/spray(?) some kind of
protection over the painting.


I forget what it is called but there is some kind of sealing
spray for paper/pencil sketchs that would probably work fine.
I'm not sure wax would be good for that.


Okay, thanks. I'll go back to Hobby Lobby and ask what they have that's
appropriate.

The only bad thing I've heard about noodlers bp black for
sketching/water colors is that it smears some.


Since I've never had a problem writing with it on Crane's, I think it'll be
okay.

matthew

p.s. I too spend too much money on art supplies...




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Old June 29th 08, 02:34 AM posted to alt.collecting.pens-pencils
MatthewK
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On 2008-06-28, Bluesea wrote:


Terminology:

Notes are notes...short. Letters are letters...longer than notes.

Notes are written on fold-over notes or on correspondence cards. As
mentioned in other posts, a correspondence card without an envelope may be
mailed as a postcard.

A fold-over note is approximately 3-13/16" x 5-5/16" and has a horizontal
fold at the top. It can be inserted into its matching envelope without
having to fold it further.

Correspondence cards are card stock. They are not folded for insertion into
their envelopes.

Letters are one page or longer. Letter sheets have to be folded before being
inserted into their envelopes.

Men write letters on Monarch letter sheets (approx. 7-1/4" x 10-1/2").


Thanks for all the info, it kept me from looking up monarch
in my etiquette book....oh no, I have to look anyway. ha ha

matthew
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Old June 29th 08, 04:37 AM posted to alt.collecting.pens-pencils
Brian Ketterling
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In ,
MatthewK wrote:

Thanks for all the info, it kept me from looking up monarch
in my etiquette book....oh no, I have to look anyway. ha ha


I think there's a little bit of Carnival going on in the paper world, with
the social order turned upside down: Foolscap is huge and Monarch is small
.

Brian
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