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First Spouse
After an initial run on the Mint for the limited edition First Spouse 1/2 ounce
coins, interest seems to have waned as the price of gold (and the Mint's ludicrous markup) increased. Checking the Mint web site, I notice that a BU Buchanan's Liberty is still available. The "Liberty" coins may prove to be the most popular sub-set of the series but at $800+ a pop, the First Spouse series ingeneral is rapidly losing any consumer appeal. |
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"Beanie" wrote in message ... After an initial run on the Mint for the limited edition First Spouse 1/2 ounce coins, interest seems to have waned as the price of gold (and the Mint's ludicrous markup) increased. Checking the Mint web site, I notice that a BU Buchanan's Liberty is still available. The "Liberty" coins may prove to be the most popular sub-set of the series but at $800+ a pop, the First Spouse series ingeneral is rapidly losing any consumer appeal. I dunno, there seems to be a lot of "collectors" out there itching to drop 2 or 3 thousand or more for a set of 5 ATB silver slugs. $800 is chump change. Especially this year when the obligatory two 2011 US proof sets and one mint set will require a $140 dollar bill. Just a browse through the latest Trends prices shows what nice "real coins" that your $140 could buy. How about an AU Large Cent, an MS63 Liberty Nickel, an MS65 Buffalo Nickel, MS60 Barber Dime, an F+ 1875-S Twenty Cent piece, AU Barber Quarter, VF30 Bust Half Dollar, MS65 WL Half Dollar, VF20 Trade Dollar, and maybe even a nice circ $2.50 Coronet gold. Investment-wise, one would probably be better off buying some silver eagles. |
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On Feb 15, 9:25*am, "Bremick" wrote:
"Beanie" wrote in .... After an initial run on the Mint for the limited edition First Spouse 1/2 ounce coins, interest seems to have waned as the price of gold (and the Mint's ludicrous markup) increased. Checking the Mint web site, I notice that a BU Buchanan's Liberty is still available. The "Liberty" coins may prove to be the most popular sub-set of the series but at $800+ a pop, the First Spouse series ingeneral is rapidly losing any consumer appeal. I dunno, there seems to be a lot of "collectors" out there itching to drop 2 or 3 thousand or more for a set of 5 ATB silver slugs. *$800 is chump change. *Especially this year when the obligatory two 2011 US proof sets and one mint set will require a $140 dollar bill. *Just a browse through the latest Trends prices shows what nice "real coins" that your $140 could buy. How about an AU Large Cent, an MS63 Liberty Nickel, an MS65 Buffalo Nickel, MS60 Barber Dime, an F+ 1875-S Twenty Cent piece, AU Barber Quarter, VF30 Bust Half Dollar, MS65 WL Half Dollar, VF20 Trade Dollar, and maybe even a nice circ $2.50 Coronet gold. * *Investment-wise, one would probably be better off buying some silver eagles. I think when you get down to the nitty-gritty, there are a large number of U.S. Presidents who aren't truly worthy of the coinage honor, let alone their wives. And from the Springpatch viewpoint of the world, how do you rate Mary Todd Lincoln??? If you can go another $20 to $60 on top of your stipulated $140, remember those 1882, 1883 and 1884 "CC" dollars in GSA holders. You even get the nice plastic, just like the modern proof sets. oly |
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First Spouse
"oly" wrote in message ... I think when you get down to the nitty-gritty, there are a large number of U.S. Presidents who aren't truly worthy of the coinage honor, let alone their wives. "A large number" is a gross understatement. Other than Teddy Roosevelt, there wasn't one POTUS in the 20th century worthy of the honor. The 19th century had Lincoln, Jefferson, Madison and John Adams - the rest are forgettable. Most Presidents have been political hacks, not even worthy of being on a postage stamp. |
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On Feb 15, 12:14*pm, "Beanie" wrote:
"oly" wrote in message ...I think when you get down to the nitty-gritty, there are a large number of U.S. Presidents who aren't truly worthy of the coinage honor, let alone their wives. "A large number" is a gross understatement. Other than Teddy Roosevelt, there wasn't one POTUS in the 20th century worthy of the honor. The 19th century had Lincoln, Jefferson, Madison and John Adams - the rest are forgettable. Most Presidents have been political hacks, not even worthy of being on a postage stamp. I think it's difficult to argue with FDR on the dime. Because he brought us to the end of WWII successfully, not because of how he handled the Great Depression. Andrew Jackson and U.S. Grant both represent poor boys who made good. Jackson's election to the Presidency was a watershed social moment in American history - power was snatched from the East Coast aristocracy/ plutocracy and placed firmly in the hands of the man from the frontier. Grant's Presidency was very weak, but his conduct of the conclusion of the Civil War was masterful in both a military and diplomatic sense. He rose well above whatever was expected of him in life. From the vast magnitude of his mistakes and his unfathomable personal arrogance, Woodrow Wilson probably deserves to be on the $100,000 bill. oly |
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"oly" wrote in message
... I think it's difficult to argue with FDR on the dime. Because he brought us to the end of WWII successfully, not because of how he handled the Great Depression. He's been on the dime for more than 60 years - time to move on. Andrew Jackson and U.S. Grant both represent poor boys who made good. Isn't it enough they have their faces on currency? I say it's time to go back to using representations of Liberty on our coinage and get rid of all the dead presidents. The only exception I would make would be the Lincoln cent, a humble coin that seems fitting for a humble man. If it was up to me, I'd go back in time and reinstate usage of the Buffalo nickel, Mercury dime, Standing Liberty quarter and Walking liberty half, coinage that was the most beautiful circulating coinage in US history. Stop making those horrible Prexibux and Native American "golden" dollars and issue a dollar coin using the $10 St. Gaudens Indian design and a $2 coin using St Gaudens $20 design. Stop printing $1 and $2 bills. Canada did years ago and they seem to be getting along just fine. |
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"oly" wrote in message ... On Feb 15, 12:14 pm, "Beanie" wrote: "oly" wrote in message ...I think when you get down to the nitty-gritty, there are a large number of U.S. Presidents who aren't truly worthy of the coinage honor, let alone their wives. "A large number" is a gross understatement. Other than Teddy Roosevelt, there wasn't one POTUS in the 20th century worthy of the honor. The 19th century had Lincoln, Jefferson, Madison and John Adams - the rest are forgettable. Most Presidents have been political hacks, not even worthy of being on a postage stamp. I think it's difficult to argue with FDR on the dime. Because he brought us to the end of WWII successfully, not because of how he handled the Great Depression. Andrew Jackson and U.S. Grant both represent poor boys who made good. Jackson's election to the Presidency was a watershed social moment in American history - power was snatched from the East Coast aristocracy/ plutocracy and placed firmly in the hands of the man from the frontier. Grant's Presidency was very weak, but his conduct of the conclusion of the Civil War was masterful in both a military and diplomatic sense. He rose well above whatever was expected of him in life. From the vast magnitude of his mistakes and his unfathomable personal arrogance, Woodrow Wilson probably deserves to be on the $100,000 bill. ------------------- I wouldn't mind seeing all our presidents retired from circulating coinage. We don't have a monarch or ruler, per se, and most of the past US presidents holding a prominent place in our history have already been saluted on various numismatic media. My high school & college years were Ike and JFK years, and regardless of what history might say about them, I thought these were great, largely carefree years to have grown up, not that this was necessarily of their doing. But had Ike not first been a popular WW II general and JFK not been assasinated, I doubt we would have seen either one on a circulating coin. |
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"Beanie" wrote in message ... "oly" wrote in message ... I think when you get down to the nitty-gritty, there are a large number of U.S. Presidents who aren't truly worthy of the coinage honor, let alone their wives. "A large number" is a gross understatement. Other than Teddy Roosevelt, there wasn't one POTUS in the 20th century worthy of the honor. Of course, TR was the first president to advocate a National Health Care system. The 19th century had Lincoln, Jefferson, Madison and John Adams - the rest are forgettable. Grover Cleveland, 22nd and 24th President of the United States was interesting, I liked his comment about giving everything to the rich: "He mocks the people who proposes that the government shall protect the rich and they, in turn, will care for the laboring poor." To bad we didn't listen to him. He also inherited, in 1893, one of the worst depressions on record. Most Presidents have been political hacks, not even worthy of being on a postage stamp. Yeah! But, all of the dead presidents were honored on postage stamps a few years ago. -- Richard http://www.richlh.com |
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"Beanie" wrote in message ... After an initial run on the Mint for the limited edition First Spouse 1/2 ounce coins, interest seems to have waned as the price of gold (and the Mint's ludicrous markup) increased. Checking the Mint web site, I notice that a BU Buchanan's Liberty is still available. The "Liberty" coins may prove to be the most popular sub-set of the series but at $800+ a pop, the First Spouse series ingeneral is rapidly losing any consumer appeal. I've been content to buy the First Spouse medal series at $5.50 per medal or $11.95 for a 4 medal yearly set. https://catalog.usmint.gov/webapp/wc...category=10193 or http://tinyurl.com/4wzohg9 (They were only about $3.50 when the series started.) I did see an advertisement a while ago.in Numismatic News for the first 4 medal set for $70 for the set. It made me wish I had bought a few more sets. I like the First Spouse Liberty medals so I bought a second one of each. (There have been 4 so far.) Where else can you buy a mint produced Draped Bust, Clasic Head or Seated Liberty "coin". I think the Liberty Medals are cool. And the First Spouse medal set is a nice compliment to the Presidential medal set that I bought a few years ago. I'm wondering when they are going to come out with the Barack Obama Presidential medal. I thought it would have been out by now. -- Richard http://coins.richlh.com/MyCoinLinks.htm http://www.richlh.com The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them. (Albert Einstein) |
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