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Old February 15th 11, 03:10 PM posted to rec.collecting.coins
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After an initial run on the Mint for the limited edition First Spouse 1/2 ounce
coins, interest seems to have waned as the price of gold (and the Mint's
ludicrous markup) increased.
Checking the Mint web site, I notice that a BU Buchanan's Liberty is still
available.
The "Liberty" coins may prove to be the most popular sub-set of the series but
at $800+ a pop, the First Spouse series ingeneral is rapidly losing any consumer
appeal.


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Old February 15th 11, 04:25 PM posted to rec.collecting.coins
Bremick
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"Beanie" wrote in message ...
After an initial run on the Mint for the limited edition First Spouse 1/2
ounce coins, interest seems to have waned as the price of gold (and the
Mint's ludicrous markup) increased.
Checking the Mint web site, I notice that a BU Buchanan's Liberty is still
available.
The "Liberty" coins may prove to be the most popular sub-set of the series
but at $800+ a pop, the First Spouse series ingeneral is rapidly losing
any consumer appeal.


I dunno, there seems to be a lot of "collectors" out there itching to drop 2
or 3 thousand or more for a set of 5 ATB silver slugs. $800 is chump
change. Especially this year when the obligatory two 2011 US proof sets and
one mint set will require a $140 dollar bill. Just a browse through the
latest Trends prices shows what nice "real coins" that your $140 could buy.
How about an AU Large Cent, an MS63 Liberty Nickel, an MS65 Buffalo Nickel,
MS60 Barber Dime, an F+ 1875-S Twenty Cent piece, AU Barber Quarter, VF30
Bust Half Dollar, MS65 WL Half Dollar, VF20 Trade Dollar, and maybe even a
nice circ $2.50 Coronet gold. Investment-wise, one would probably be
better off buying some silver eagles.


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Old February 15th 11, 06:59 PM posted to rec.collecting.coins
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On Feb 15, 9:25*am, "Bremick" wrote:
"Beanie" wrote in ....
After an initial run on the Mint for the limited edition First Spouse 1/2
ounce coins, interest seems to have waned as the price of gold (and the
Mint's ludicrous markup) increased.
Checking the Mint web site, I notice that a BU Buchanan's Liberty is still
available.
The "Liberty" coins may prove to be the most popular sub-set of the series
but at $800+ a pop, the First Spouse series ingeneral is rapidly losing
any consumer appeal.


I dunno, there seems to be a lot of "collectors" out there itching to drop 2
or 3 thousand or more for a set of 5 ATB silver slugs. *$800 is chump
change. *Especially this year when the obligatory two 2011 US proof sets and
one mint set will require a $140 dollar bill. *Just a browse through the
latest Trends prices shows what nice "real coins" that your $140 could buy.
How about an AU Large Cent, an MS63 Liberty Nickel, an MS65 Buffalo Nickel,
MS60 Barber Dime, an F+ 1875-S Twenty Cent piece, AU Barber Quarter, VF30
Bust Half Dollar, MS65 WL Half Dollar, VF20 Trade Dollar, and maybe even a
nice circ $2.50 Coronet gold. * *Investment-wise, one would probably be
better off buying some silver eagles.


I think when you get down to the nitty-gritty, there are a large
number of U.S. Presidents who aren't truly worthy of the coinage
honor, let alone their wives.

And from the Springpatch viewpoint of the world, how do you rate Mary
Todd Lincoln???

If you can go another $20 to $60 on top of your stipulated $140,
remember those 1882, 1883 and 1884 "CC" dollars in GSA holders. You
even get the nice plastic, just like the modern proof sets.

oly
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Old February 15th 11, 07:14 PM posted to rec.collecting.coins
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"oly" wrote in message
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I think when you get down to the nitty-gritty, there are a large

number of U.S. Presidents who aren't truly worthy of the coinage
honor, let alone their wives.

"A large number" is a gross understatement.
Other than Teddy Roosevelt, there wasn't one POTUS in the 20th century worthy of
the honor.
The 19th century had Lincoln, Jefferson, Madison and John Adams - the rest are
forgettable.
Most Presidents have been political hacks, not even worthy of being on a postage
stamp.


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Old February 15th 11, 07:58 PM posted to rec.collecting.coins
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On Feb 15, 12:14*pm, "Beanie" wrote:
"oly" wrote in message

...I think when you get down to the nitty-gritty, there are a large

number of U.S. Presidents who aren't truly worthy of the coinage
honor, let alone their wives.

"A large number" is a gross understatement.
Other than Teddy Roosevelt, there wasn't one POTUS in the 20th century worthy of
the honor.
The 19th century had Lincoln, Jefferson, Madison and John Adams - the rest are
forgettable.
Most Presidents have been political hacks, not even worthy of being on a postage
stamp.


I think it's difficult to argue with FDR on the dime. Because he
brought us to the end of WWII successfully, not because of how he
handled the Great Depression.

Andrew Jackson and U.S. Grant both represent poor boys who made good.
Jackson's election to the Presidency was a watershed social moment in
American history - power was snatched from the East Coast aristocracy/
plutocracy and placed firmly in the hands of the man from the
frontier. Grant's Presidency was very weak, but his conduct of the
conclusion of the Civil War was masterful in both a military and
diplomatic sense. He rose well above whatever was expected of him in
life.

From the vast magnitude of his mistakes and his unfathomable personal
arrogance, Woodrow Wilson probably deserves to be on the $100,000
bill.

oly


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Old February 15th 11, 08:55 PM posted to rec.collecting.coins
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"oly" wrote in message
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I think it's difficult to argue with FDR on the dime. Because he

brought us to the end of WWII successfully, not because of how he
handled the Great Depression.

He's been on the dime for more than 60 years - time to move on.

Andrew Jackson and U.S. Grant both represent poor boys who made good.


Isn't it enough they have their faces on currency?

I say it's time to go back to using representations of Liberty on our coinage
and get rid of all the dead presidents.
The only exception I would make would be the Lincoln cent, a humble coin that
seems fitting for a humble man.
If it was up to me, I'd go back in time and reinstate usage of the Buffalo
nickel, Mercury dime, Standing Liberty quarter and Walking liberty half, coinage
that was the most beautiful circulating coinage in US history.
Stop making those horrible Prexibux and Native American "golden" dollars and
issue a dollar coin using the $10 St. Gaudens Indian design and a $2 coin using
St Gaudens $20 design.
Stop printing $1 and $2 bills. Canada did years ago and they seem to be getting
along just fine.


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Old February 16th 11, 02:28 AM posted to rec.collecting.coins
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"oly" wrote in message
...
On Feb 15, 12:14 pm, "Beanie" wrote:
"oly" wrote in message

...I
think when you get down to the nitty-gritty, there are a large

number of U.S. Presidents who aren't truly worthy of the coinage
honor, let alone their wives.

"A large number" is a gross understatement.
Other than Teddy Roosevelt, there wasn't one POTUS in the 20th century
worthy of
the honor.
The 19th century had Lincoln, Jefferson, Madison and John Adams - the rest
are
forgettable.
Most Presidents have been political hacks, not even worthy of being on a
postage
stamp.


I think it's difficult to argue with FDR on the dime. Because he
brought us to the end of WWII successfully, not because of how he
handled the Great Depression.

Andrew Jackson and U.S. Grant both represent poor boys who made good.
Jackson's election to the Presidency was a watershed social moment in
American history - power was snatched from the East Coast aristocracy/
plutocracy and placed firmly in the hands of the man from the
frontier. Grant's Presidency was very weak, but his conduct of the
conclusion of the Civil War was masterful in both a military and
diplomatic sense. He rose well above whatever was expected of him in
life.

From the vast magnitude of his mistakes and his unfathomable personal
arrogance, Woodrow Wilson probably deserves to be on the $100,000
bill.

-------------------

I wouldn't mind seeing all our presidents retired from circulating coinage.
We don't have a monarch or ruler, per se, and most of the past US presidents
holding a prominent place in our history have already been saluted on
various numismatic media. My high school & college years were Ike and JFK
years, and regardless of what history might say about them, I thought these
were great, largely carefree years to have grown up, not that this was
necessarily of their doing. But had Ike not first been a popular WW II
general and JFK not been assasinated, I doubt we would have seen either one
on a circulating coin.





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Old February 17th 11, 11:16 PM posted to rec.collecting.coins
Richard L. Hall[_2_]
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"Beanie" wrote in message ...

"oly" wrote in message
...
I think when you get down to the nitty-gritty, there are a large

number of U.S. Presidents who aren't truly worthy of the coinage
honor, let alone their wives.

"A large number" is a gross understatement.
Other than Teddy Roosevelt, there wasn't one POTUS in the 20th century
worthy of the honor.


Of course, TR was the first president to advocate a National Health Care
system.

The 19th century had Lincoln, Jefferson, Madison and John Adams - the rest
are forgettable.


Grover Cleveland, 22nd and 24th President of the United States was
interesting, I liked his comment about giving everything to the rich: "He
mocks the people who proposes that the government shall protect the rich and
they, in turn, will care for the laboring poor." To bad we didn't listen to
him. He also inherited, in 1893, one of the worst depressions on record.

Most Presidents have been political hacks, not even worthy of being on a

postage
stamp.


Yeah! But, all of the dead presidents were honored on postage stamps a few
years ago.

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Old February 17th 11, 07:56 PM posted to rec.collecting.coins
Richard L. Hall[_2_]
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"Beanie" wrote in message ...
After an initial run on the Mint for the limited edition First Spouse 1/2
ounce coins, interest seems to have waned as the price of gold (and the
Mint's ludicrous markup) increased.
Checking the Mint web site, I notice that a BU Buchanan's Liberty is still
available.
The "Liberty" coins may prove to be the most popular sub-set of the series
but at $800+ a pop, the First Spouse series ingeneral is rapidly losing
any consumer appeal.

I've been content to buy the First Spouse medal series at $5.50 per medal or
$11.95 for a 4 medal yearly set.

https://catalog.usmint.gov/webapp/wc...category=10193

or http://tinyurl.com/4wzohg9

(They were only about $3.50 when the series started.) I did see an
advertisement a while ago.in Numismatic News for the first 4 medal set for
$70 for the set. It made me wish I had bought a few more sets.

I like the First Spouse Liberty medals so I bought a second one of each.
(There have been 4 so far.) Where else can you buy a mint produced Draped
Bust, Clasic Head or Seated Liberty "coin". I think the Liberty Medals are
cool.

And the First Spouse medal set is a nice compliment to the Presidential
medal set that I bought a few years ago.

I'm wondering when they are going to come out with the Barack Obama
Presidential medal. I thought it would have been out by now.


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