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Old May 26th 08, 07:16 AM posted to alt.collecting.pens-pencils
macaddicted
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I suppose I just need to get this out. I just received what I consider
to be a very distressing notice from a pen site (usually goes by a three
letter acronym). There is currently a discussion regarding the nature of
their board, and one of my posts was redacted for what I consider to be
questionable reasons.

The what's and why's don't really matter. What matters to me is the fact
that the action was taken without warning or discussion. It was an
admittedly hostile opposing post, but then my opinion regarding what is
happening is hostile and in opposition. I called into question the
manner in which moderation is acheived. That post was cut. Too sad
really.

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Wisdom is radiant and unfading and she is easily discerned
by those who love her and is found by those who seek her.
Wisdom 6:12 (NRSV)
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Old May 26th 08, 08:00 AM posted to alt.collecting.pens-pencils
Brian Ketterling
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In news:1ihir31.m7g2uz7gjf9iN%macaddicted@REMOVETHISc a.rr.com,
macaddicted wrote:

What matters to me is the fact
that the action was taken without warning or discussion.


I missed whatever led to the Chatter Forum's shutdown, because I rarely
check it. I'd just cut them some slack, go on to other things and let it
get sorted out in its own time -- their abruptness probably has more to do
with being harried than with being hostile.

Brian
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Old May 26th 08, 06:40 PM posted to alt.collecting.pens-pencils
Deirdre Saoirse Moen[_2_]
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Brian Ketterling wrote:
I missed whatever led to the Chatter Forum's shutdown, because I rarely
check it. I'd just cut them some slack, go on to other things and let it
get sorted out in its own time -- their abruptness probably has more to do
with being harried than with being hostile.


It probably has to do with the fact that they'd like to keep the site
commercial-free and the chatter forum was using up a huge chunk of the site's
bandwidth. If there were enough people who wanted to put in the time to moderate
AND also enough money AND enough bandwidth, it probably wouldn't have been an
issue.

That said, I think allowing religion or politics on a web forum dedicated to
neither is never a good idea.

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Old May 27th 08, 05:14 AM posted to alt.collecting.pens-pencils
The Drunken Lord[_2_]
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On Mon, 26 May 2008 10:40:27 -0700, Deirdre Saoirse Moen
wrote:

Brian Ketterling wrote:
I missed whatever led to the Chatter Forum's shutdown, because I rarely
check it. I'd just cut them some slack, go on to other things and let it
get sorted out in its own time -- their abruptness probably has more to do
with being harried than with being hostile.


It probably has to do with the fact that they'd like to keep the site
commercial-free and the chatter forum was using up a huge chunk of the site's
bandwidth. If there were enough people who wanted to put in the time to moderate
AND also enough money AND enough bandwidth, it probably wouldn't have been an
issue.


Deidre, don't try to take up for those dip****s. You know damn well
they censor certain political and religious thought in chatter.

And next time you're on FPN, invite your asshole friends to come
discuss it on the usenet.
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Old May 27th 08, 04:28 PM posted to alt.collecting.pens-pencils
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"The admins on FPN are average dip****s. There's not much good you
can
say about them: You can't polish a turd.

Welcome to the usenet and invite your friends. The FPN admins will
never come out of the woodwork and into this forum."

Probably not.

Regards,
Ruaidhrí

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Old May 28th 08, 03:17 AM posted to alt.collecting.pens-pencils
The Drunken Lord[_2_]
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On Tue, 27 May 2008 08:28:01 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

"The admins on FPN are average dip****s. There's not much good you
can
say about them: You can't polish a turd.

Welcome to the usenet and invite your friends. The FPN admins will
never come out of the woodwork and into this forum."

Probably not.


Let's get something straight, Ruaidhri: You might be a big shot on
FPN and those dip****s might come whining to you to censor people on
FPN, but you can't do any censoring here, and, as you can see from the
examples of some of the FPN crybabies who have complained
here--whining won't get you nowhere on the usenet. It might work on
FPN but not here.

What's more, on the usenet, we don't have to put up with just sitting
by quietly while those FPN ****nuts display their rank stupidity, like
you have to do on FPN, because if you started banning all the idiots
on FPN, damn, you wouldn't be left with but a very few people. If any
of those dip****s come here and post about how they put ink in the
microwave, or run up a post explaining they've discovered ink can
stain, anybody here can call them out for the ****ing idiots they are
without having to worry about you or any of your asshole friends
censoring or moderating or banning anybody.

And I know you aren't the leader of those dip****s, but you're in with
them.

Those dip****s are too yellow to come here and post, but you ought to
tell them to come here and take a look.
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Old May 27th 08, 04:46 PM posted to alt.collecting.pens-pencils
Deirdre Saoirse Moen[_2_]
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The Drunken Lord wrote:
Deidre, don't try to take up for those dip****s. You know damn well
they censor certain political and religious thought in chatter.


Speaking as someone who wasn't censored for admittedly odd religious
beliefs, I think it was the form of expression rather than the
thought itself.

And next time you're on FPN, invite your asshole friends to come
discuss it on the usenet.


I didn't invite anyone. Why would I when you're here?

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"Memes are a hoax! Pass it on!"
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Old May 28th 08, 12:05 AM posted to alt.collecting.pens-pencils
The Drunken Lord[_2_]
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On Tue, 27 May 2008 08:46:49 -0700, Deirdre Saoirse Moen
wrote:

The Drunken Lord wrote:
Deidre, don't try to take up for those dip****s. You know damn well
they censor certain political and religious thought in chatter.


Speaking as someone who wasn't censored for admittedly odd religious
beliefs, I think it was the form of expression rather than the
thought itself.


If you want to write about your kooky religious beliefs, here would
probably be a better place for that than FPN. At least here you won't
be moderated or censored.

And next time you're on FPN, invite your asshole friends to come
discuss it on the usenet.


I didn't invite anyone. Why would I when you're here?


Deidre, insulting people is not nice. You should know that. I'm not
going to put a blowtorch up under your ass for two reasons, one,
because you're a woman and it wouldn't be gentlemanly, and second,
because you have made many positive contributions to this forum and
wasted very little bandwidth.

In return, I think it would be nice of you to invite some assholes
from FPN to this forum.
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Old May 26th 08, 11:08 PM posted to alt.collecting.pens-pencils
macaddicted
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Brian Ketterling wrote:

In news:1ihir31.m7g2uz7gjf9iN%macaddicted@REMOVETHISc a.rr.com,
macaddicted wrote:

What matters to me is the fact
that the action was taken without warning or discussion.


I missed whatever led to the Chatter Forum's shutdown, because I rarely
check it. I'd just cut them some slack, go on to other things and let it
get sorted out in its own time -- their abruptness probably has more to do
with being harried than with being hostile.

Brian


Yes, there is nothing quite like benevolent despotism.

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macaddicted
Wisdom is radiant and unfading and she is easily discerned
by those who love her and is found by those who seek her.
Wisdom 6:12 (NRSV)
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Old May 27th 08, 05:07 AM posted to alt.collecting.pens-pencils
The Drunken Lord[_2_]
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On Mon, 26 May 2008 03:00:42 -0400, "Brian Ketterling"
wrote:

In news:1ihir31.m7g2uz7gjf9iN%macaddicted@REMOVETHISc a.rr.com,
macaddicted wrote:

What matters to me is the fact
that the action was taken without warning or discussion.


I missed whatever led to the Chatter Forum's shutdown, because I rarely
check it. I'd just cut them some slack, go on to other things and let it
get sorted out in its own time -- their abruptness probably has more to do
with being harried than with being hostile.


Well, what happens, I think, is rabid FPN'ers hound the moderators and
the moderators take action as a result. The moderators are to blame
for caving in.

They let all sorts of things go by on FPN, but when somebody is
disagreeing about something--especially in the religious/politcal
chatter forum, the rabid right wingers whiners to the dip****
moderators.
 




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