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Boy Scouts of America Silver Dollar Centennial Commemorative Coin
Boy Scouts of America Silver Dollar Centennial Commemorative Coin
http://www.coinnews.net/2008/04/28/b...merica-silver- dollar-centennial-commemorative-coin-4056/ http://tinyurl.com/5wvoc8 By CoinNews.net on Apr 28th, 2008 A new House bill recently introduced to celebrate the centennial of the Boy Scouts of America (BSA) with the minting of a commemorate silver dollar has exceptionally strong bipartisan support. Rep Pete Sessions [R-TX] introduced the new bill on April 22, 2008. The bill looks to be soundly popular with an already 296 cosponsors lined up to provide their early signature for the "100 Years of Scouting" commemorative coin. In addition to the commemorative coin initiative, Sessions is also building support for a U.S. postage stamp to celebrate “100 Years of Scouting.” Currently, Sessions has garnered the support of over 320 Senators and Members of Congress for a letter to the U.S. Postmaster General, requesting a commemorative stamp for the 100th anniversary of Boy Scouts of America. In 1960, the United States Postal Office celebrated the Boy Scouts of America’s 50th Anniversary with the introduction of the 4 cent commemorative stamp depicting a Scout holding up the Scout sign. [excerpted] |
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Boy Scouts of America Silver Dollar Centennial Commemorative Coin
Stop the passage of the Boys Scouts Commemorative Coin
May 21, 2008 - Last week the House of Representatives passed legislation (H.R. 5872) creating a commemorative coin for the Boy Scouts of America, an organization that explicitly discriminates against nontheists (as well as gays) in admission, employment, and even volunteer opportunities. By directing the U.S. Mint to produce commemorative coins as a fundraiser for the Boy Scouts of America (BSA), the House is sending an estimated $3.5 million dollars directly to their organization. As this legislation moves to the Senate for confirmation, the Secular Coalition for America asks that you write your Senators and voice your opposition to this bill. The Secular Coalition for America urges Congress to bar the use of federal funds to assist any organization that discriminates based on religion. Allowing a commemorative coin to be created in honor of the Boy Scouts not only demonstrates that Congress agrees with the religious discrimination practices of the BSA, but moreover, wants to financially assist the organization. The "Declaration of Religious Principle," found in BSA's organization's bylaws must be agreed to by every participant, volunteer, or employee. This declaration states that "no member can grow into the best kind of citizen without recognizing an obligation to God...The recognition of God as the ruling and leading power in the universe and the grateful acknowledgment of His favors and blessings are necessary to the best type of citizenship and are wholesome precepts in the education of the growing members." The BSA is the direct beneficiary of any money made by this commemorative coin and will use this money to further its values and continue discriminating against those without a god-belief. It will continue to teach young boys that only god-believers can be good citizens. Although we were unable to stop this legislation in the House, we are asking you to help us keep this legislation off the floor of the Senate by reaching out to your state Senators now. Please contact your Senators and tell them to stop allowing private organizations that discriminate on the basis of religion from benefiting from federal endorsement and government fundraising schemes. Take a stand! Below is a sample letter to send to your Senators about the Boy Scouts of America commemorative coin legislation. Please feel free to adapt it to your voice and provide additional information of importance to you. Dear Senator, On May 15 the House of Representatives passed H.R. 5872, the "Boy Scouts of America Centennial Commemorative Coin Act," which mandates that the U.S. Mint must create and sell a coin commemorating the Scouts' centennial in the year 2010. A ten dollar surcharge on each coin goes directly to the Boy Scouts of America, who stand to net $3.5 million in the deal. The Boy Scouts of America organization does not admit or employ atheists or agnostics because of their position that, "no member can grow into the best kind of citizen without recognizing an obligation to God." While such inaccurate prejudice against nontheistic Americans may be held by a private organization, the United States government must not aid in funding an organization which discriminates based on religion. It is constitutionally questionable to use our tax dollars to support a religiously restricted membership organization. I urge you to oppose HR 5872 also known as the Boy Scouts of America Centennial Commemorative Coin Act. |
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Boy Scouts of America Silver Dollar Centennial Commemorative Coin
"Indian Head" wrote in message ... Stop the passage of the Boys Scouts Commemorative Coin May 21, 2008 - Last week the House of Representatives passed legislation (H.R. 5872) creating a commemorative coin for the Boy Scouts of America, an organization that explicitly discriminates against nontheists (as well as gays) in admission, employment, and even volunteer opportunities. By directing the U.S. Mint to produce commemorative coins as a fundraiser for the Boy Scouts of America (BSA), the House is sending an estimated $3.5 million dollars directly to their organization. As this legislation moves to the Senate for confirmation, the Secular Coalition for America asks that you write your Senators and voice your opposition to this bill. The Secular Coalition for America urges Congress to bar the use of federal funds to assist any organization that discriminates based on religion. Allowing a commemorative coin to be created in honor of the Boy Scouts not only demonstrates that Congress agrees with the religious discrimination practices of the BSA, but moreover, wants to financially assist the organization. The "Declaration of Religious Principle," found in BSA's organization's bylaws must be agreed to by every participant, volunteer, or employee. This declaration states that "no member can grow into the best kind of citizen without recognizing an obligation to God...The recognition of God as the ruling and leading power in the universe and the grateful acknowledgment of His favors and blessings are necessary to the best type of citizenship and are wholesome precepts in the education of the growing members." Sort of like "In God We Trust", which will likely appear on the coin. Go Scouts! |
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Boy Scouts of America Silver Dollar Centennial Commemorative Coin
There are denominational Scout Troops in the UK, or were when I were a lad,
but the Scout Troop that I was in was non denominational and I think all should be. Billy "Indian Head" wrote in message ... Stop the passage of the Boys Scouts Commemorative Coin May 21, 2008 - Last week the House of Representatives passed legislation (H.R. 5872) creating a commemorative coin for the Boy Scouts of America, an organization that explicitly discriminates against nontheists (as well as gays) in admission, employment, and even volunteer opportunities. By directing the U.S. Mint to produce commemorative coins as a fundraiser for the Boy Scouts of America (BSA), the House is sending an estimated $3.5 million dollars directly to their organization. As this legislation moves to the Senate for confirmation, the Secular Coalition for America asks that you write your Senators and voice your opposition to this bill. The Secular Coalition for America urges Congress to bar the use of federal funds to assist any organization that discriminates based on religion. Allowing a commemorative coin to be created in honor of the Boy Scouts not only demonstrates that Congress agrees with the religious discrimination practices of the BSA, but moreover, wants to financially assist the organization. The "Declaration of Religious Principle," found in BSA's organization's bylaws must be agreed to by every participant, volunteer, or employee. This declaration states that "no member can grow into the best kind of citizen without recognizing an obligation to God...The recognition of God as the ruling and leading power in the universe and the grateful acknowledgment of His favors and blessings are necessary to the best type of citizenship and are wholesome precepts in the education of the growing members." The BSA is the direct beneficiary of any money made by this commemorative coin and will use this money to further its values and continue discriminating against those without a god-belief. It will continue to teach young boys that only god-believers can be good citizens. Although we were unable to stop this legislation in the House, we are asking you to help us keep this legislation off the floor of the Senate by reaching out to your state Senators now. Please contact your Senators and tell them to stop allowing private organizations that discriminate on the basis of religion from benefiting from federal endorsement and government fundraising schemes. Take a stand! Below is a sample letter to send to your Senators about the Boy Scouts of America commemorative coin legislation. Please feel free to adapt it to your voice and provide additional information of importance to you. Dear Senator, On May 15 the House of Representatives passed H.R. 5872, the "Boy Scouts of America Centennial Commemorative Coin Act," which mandates that the U.S. Mint must create and sell a coin commemorating the Scouts' centennial in the year 2010. A ten dollar surcharge on each coin goes directly to the Boy Scouts of America, who stand to net $3.5 million in the deal. The Boy Scouts of America organization does not admit or employ atheists or agnostics because of their position that, "no member can grow into the best kind of citizen without recognizing an obligation to God." While such inaccurate prejudice against nontheistic Americans may be held by a private organization, the United States government must not aid in funding an organization which discriminates based on religion. It is constitutionally questionable to use our tax dollars to support a religiously restricted membership organization. I urge you to oppose HR 5872 also known as the Boy Scouts of America Centennial Commemorative Coin Act. |
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Boy Scouts of America Silver Dollar Centennial Commemorative Coin
On May 21, 9:24�pm, Indian Head wrote nothing but
drivel. You're an idiot. Care to provide your source? It's conspicuously absent. Jerry |
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Boy Scouts of America Silver Dollar Centennial Commemorative Coin
On Sat, 24 May 2008 18:55:30 -0700 (PDT), Jerry Dennis
wrote: On May 21, 9:24?pm, Indian Head wrote nothing but drivel. You're an idiot. Care to provide your source? It's conspicuously absent. What source do you want, Jerry? The text of the bill is at http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/.../~c110NsbwaZ:: That confirms that $10 per coin goes to the BSA. (Sec. 7 - Surcharges) Do you need a source to understand that the BSA discriminates against the non-religious or gays? I thought that was common knowledge. If you want to see the mint issue the coin, write your congressman. If you don't want to see the mint issue the coin, write your congressman. If you don't care, join me and do nothing. -- Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida |
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Boy Scouts of America Silver Dollar Centennial Commemorative Coin
"tony cooper" wrote in message ... On Sat, 24 May 2008 18:55:30 -0700 (PDT), Jerry Dennis wrote: On May 21, 9:24?pm, Indian Head wrote nothing but drivel. You're an idiot. Care to provide your source? It's conspicuously absent. What source do you want, Jerry? The text of the bill is at http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/.../~c110NsbwaZ:: That confirms that $10 per coin goes to the BSA. (Sec. 7 - Surcharges) Do you need a source to understand that the BSA discriminates against the non-religious or gays? I thought that was common knowledge. Out of curiousity, I'd like to see the source which says that non-religious or gay boys are not allowed to be Scouts. As far as I can tell, either could join if simply willing to sign off on a collection of credos, some of which don't particularly apply to them. After all, the Boy Scouts, like the YMCA, has been a traditional Christian-oriented group since its inception. If non-Christians are still interested in joining the group, I don't believe they are turned away. If you want to see the mint issue the coin, write your congressman. If you don't want to see the mint issue the coin, write your congressman. If you don't care, join me and do nothing. I'll go along with you there. |
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Boy Scouts of America Silver Dollar Centennial Commemorative Coin
"Bruce Remick" wrote in message ... "tony cooper" wrote in message ... On Sat, 24 May 2008 18:55:30 -0700 (PDT), Jerry Dennis wrote: On May 21, 9:24?pm, Indian Head wrote nothing but drivel. You're an idiot. Care to provide your source? It's conspicuously absent. What source do you want, Jerry? The text of the bill is at http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/.../~c110NsbwaZ:: That confirms that $10 per coin goes to the BSA. (Sec. 7 - Surcharges) Do you need a source to understand that the BSA discriminates against the non-religious or gays? I thought that was common knowledge. Out of curiousity, I'd like to see the source which says that non-religious or gay boys are not allowed to be Scouts. As far as I can tell, either could join if simply willing to sign off on a collection of credos, some of which don't particularly apply to them. After all, the Boy Scouts, like the YMCA, has been a traditional Christian-oriented group since its inception. If non-Christians are still interested in joining the group, I don't believe they are turned away. I think you hit the nail squarely when you said "sign off on a collection of credos." One who is willing to do just that, while keeping his real self deeply hidden, will find many doors open to him. However, if he becomes proactive and openly proclaims his gayness or lack of belief, he will see those same doors slamming shut on him - with his fingers still in some of them. James |
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Boy Scouts of America Silver Dollar Centennial Commemorative Coin
"Mr. Jaggers" lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com wrote in message ... "Bruce Remick" wrote in message ... "tony cooper" wrote in message ... On Sat, 24 May 2008 18:55:30 -0700 (PDT), Jerry Dennis wrote: On May 21, 9:24?pm, Indian Head wrote nothing but drivel. You're an idiot. Care to provide your source? It's conspicuously absent. What source do you want, Jerry? The text of the bill is at http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/.../~c110NsbwaZ:: That confirms that $10 per coin goes to the BSA. (Sec. 7 - Surcharges) Do you need a source to understand that the BSA discriminates against the non-religious or gays? I thought that was common knowledge. Out of curiousity, I'd like to see the source which says that non-religious or gay boys are not allowed to be Scouts. As far as I can tell, either could join if simply willing to sign off on a collection of credos, some of which don't particularly apply to them. After all, the Boy Scouts, like the YMCA, has been a traditional Christian-oriented group since its inception. If non-Christians are still interested in joining the group, I don't believe they are turned away. I think you hit the nail squarely when you said "sign off on a collection of credos." One who is willing to do just that, while keeping his real self deeply hidden, will find many doors open to him. However, if he becomes proactive and openly proclaims his gayness or lack of belief, he will see those same doors slamming shut on him - with his fingers still in some of them. James From what I see, any non-religious or gay boy who finds the Boy Scout organization attractive is free to join. If his religious or gay views are firm and confrontational, he inevitably will face problems, but won't automatically be kicked out because of those views. His "real self" convictions need not be deeply hidden to prosper as a Boy Scout. He should know going in that his views contrast with those of the majority, and if the Scouting urge trumps that, he should go for it. While some of his individual scouting peers indeed may discriminate against him, like in any group, the Boy Scout organization itself doesn't, as I see it. And a Boy Scout commemorative coin wouldn't discriminate against anyone. |
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Boy Scouts of America Silver Dollar Centennial Commemorative Coin
On Sun, 25 May 2008 08:42:19 -0400, "Bruce Remick"
wrote: Do you need a source to understand that the BSA discriminates against the non-religious or gays? I thought that was common knowledge. Out of curiousity, I'd like to see the source which says that non-religious or gay boys are not allowed to be Scouts. There are numerous places on the web where you can read about actual cases where non-religious boys have been denied membership to the BSA. Not rumors, not hearsay, but actual cases. Some include court rulings. The BSA doesn't deny that they require that an applicant to sign a document that they believe in a religion. They're quite open about it. I'm not going to provide links because the sites are all private sites that are very one-sided. Google terms like "boy scout religious requirement" and you'll find them. The same goes for gays, but most of the controversy here has been about gay scout leaders. As far as I can tell, either could join if simply willing to sign off on a collection of credos, some of which don't particularly apply to them. Yes. The applicant can lie and say they believe in a religion. The parent - who must sign the forms - can lie and accept a condition under false pretenses. Is this what we want, though? To be able to join an organization under the premise of an outright lie? To hypocritically accept the Boy Scout Law of "TRUSTWORTHY - A Scout tells the truth. He keeps his promises. Honesty is part of his code of conduct. People can depend on him." even though he has joined the organization by outright lying? What would we be teaching him? They are a private organization and should be allowed to set their own rules of membership. If they want to ban agnostics and atheists, that's their right. However, if they do, then they should be treated like all other private organizations and operate free of government subsidy in any form. The $10 per coin proposal is a government subsidy. -- Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida |
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