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Turkish Constantinople City post - help please
I'm having difficulty deciphering my Michel catalogue to understand what
the differences are between the four authentication marks they list. The catalogue only illustrates 3 of them (type I, Ia, II) while it has a table that also refers to a type III. It also says that there are more specialised varieties. Here's a scan of the images the catalogue shows: http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...Citymichel.jpg This one's quite easy as type Ia according to the image above: http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...urkeyCityc.jpg I think this is type I with a continuous circle: http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...urkeyCityb.jpg and this is type II with dots around the circle: http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...urkeyCitya.jpg Can someone please confirm this is correct, or set me right ! I've got no idea what type III looks like ? Anyone help please ! Regards, Nick |
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Turkish Constantinople City post - help please
I have a 2006/07 Michel SE Europe, and it doesn't have much more
information beyond what you have already mentioned. It says the 4 different types of overprint are "significantly" / "substantially" different. It's known from the table that Type III exists only in blue and only on Michel 11, 12 & 13 - the only other overprint type used on those three issues is Type II (in all 4 different overprint colours), so at least that narrows down your possibilities for Type III. Must be blue, must not be Type II, must be on Michel 11, 12 or 13. I agree with your determination of which types you have on the three stamps in your collection, for what that's worth. Ryan ----- Nick Bridgwater wrote: I'm having difficulty deciphering my Michel catalogue to understand what the differences are between the four authentication marks they list. The catalogue only illustrates 3 of them (type I, Ia, II) while it has a table that also refers to a type III. It also says that there are more specialised varieties. Here's a scan of the images the catalogue shows: http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...Citymichel.jpg This one's quite easy as type Ia according to the image above: http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...urkeyCityc.jpg I think this is type I with a continuous circle: http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...urkeyCityb.jpg and this is type II with dots around the circle: http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...urkeyCitya.jpg Can someone please confirm this is correct, or set me right ! I've got no idea what type III looks like ? Anyone help please ! Regards, Nick |
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Turkish Constantinople City post - help please
I'd also posted on Stampboards (but hadn't got a reply) - now have, see:
http://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic...84799&e=784799 Regards, Nick Ryan Davenport wrote in : I have a 2006/07 Michel SE Europe, and it doesn't have much more information beyond what you have already mentioned. It says the 4 different types of overprint are "significantly" / "substantially" different. It's known from the table that Type III exists only in blue and only on Michel 11, 12 & 13 - the only other overprint type used on those three issues is Type II (in all 4 different overprint colours), so at least that narrows down your possibilities for Type III. Must be blue, must not be Type II, must be on Michel 11, 12 or 13. I agree with your determination of which types you have on the three stamps in your collection, for what that's worth. Ryan ----- Nick Bridgwater wrote: I'm having difficulty deciphering my Michel catalogue to understand what the differences are between the four authentication marks they list. The catalogue only illustrates 3 of them (type I, Ia, II) while it has a table that also refers to a type III. It also says that there are more specialised varieties. Here's a scan of the images the catalogue shows: http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...Citymichel.jpg This one's quite easy as type Ia according to the image above: http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...urkeyCityc.jpg I think this is type I with a continuous circle: http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...urkeyCityb.jpg and this is type II with dots around the circle: http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...urkeyCitya.jpg Can someone please confirm this is correct, or set me right ! I've got no idea what type III looks like ? Anyone help please ! Regards, Nick |
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Turkish Constantinople City post - help please
On Jun 30, 4:37*am, Nick Bridgwater No@Spam wrote:
I'd also posted on Stampboards (but hadn't got a reply) - now have, see:http://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic...84799&e=784799 Regards, Nick Ryan Davenport wrote : * * *I have a 2006/07 Michel SE Europe, and it doesn't have much more information beyond what you have already mentioned. *It says the 4 different types of overprint are "significantly" / "substantially" different. *It's known from the table that Type III exists only in blue and only on Michel 11, 12 & 13 - the only other overprint type used on those three issues is Type II (in all 4 different overprint colours), so at least that narrows down your possibilities for Type III. *Must be blue, must not be Type II, must be on Michel 11, 12 or 13. * * *I agree with your determination of which types you have on the three stamps in your collection, for what that's worth. * * *Ryan ----- Nick Bridgwater wrote: I'm having difficulty deciphering my Michel catalogue to understand what the differences are between the four authentication marks they list. The catalogue only illustrates 3 of them (type I, Ia, II) while it has a table that also refers to a type III. It also says that there are more specialised varieties. Here's a scan of the images the catalogue shows: http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...Citymichel.jpg This one's quite easy as type Ia according to the image above: http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...urkeyCityc.jpg I think this is type I with a continuous circle: http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...urkeyCityb.jpg and this is type II with dots around the circle: http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...urkeyCitya.jpg Can someone please confirm this is correct, or set me right ! I've got no idea what type III looks like ? Anyone help please ! Regards, Nick Of course, by posting a stamp boards link, you oblige any here to register there and then login before seeing the answer. wouldn't it be simpler to copy and paste the reply here, as well? Blair |
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Turkish Constantinople City post - help please
Of course, by posting a stamp boards link, you oblige any here to
register there and then login before seeing the answer. *wouldn't it be simpler to copy and paste the reply here, as well? Blair As far as I know, and I'm open to correction, there isn't any need to register and login with Stampboards in order to read posts there. Tony |
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Turkish Constantinople City post - help please
If you're having difficulty with the Stampboards link, try here for the
scans that Jay posted up the http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...antinople1.jpg http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...antinople2.jpg It appears that Michel confused their illustration from about 2001 to at least 2006. Regards, Nick "Blair (TC)" wrote in : On Jun 30, 4:37*am, Nick Bridgwater No@Spam wrote: I'd also posted on Stampboards (but hadn't got a reply) - now have, see: http://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic...84799&e=784799 Of course, by posting a stamp boards link, you oblige any here to register there and then login before seeing the answer. wouldn't it be simpler to copy and paste the reply here, as well? Blair |
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Turkish Constantinople City post - help please
On Jul 1, 9:37*am, Nick Bridgwater No@Spam wrote:
If you're having difficulty with the Stampboards link, try here for the scans that Jay posted up the http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...antinople1.jpg http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...antinople2.jpg It appears that Michel confused their illustration from about 2001 to at least 2006. Michel 1998/99 matches the original as shown in http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...antinople1.jpg . Michel 2001/2002 has three photos and captions describing the four types. The photos do not match the captions. Photo above Type I description is really photo of Type Ia. Photo above Type Ia description is really photo of Type III. Photo above Type II description is really photo of Type I. No photo of Type II, which is the circle made of dots. Type II http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...urkeyCitya.jpg Type Ia http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...urkeyCityb.jpg Type III http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...urkeyCityc.jpg |
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Turkish Constantinople City post - help please
On Jul 2, 3:58*am, "Victor Manta" wrote:
When I opened Nick's link, I could read in the center of the page:http://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic...84799&e=784799 "Login. You have been notified about this topic, please login to view it." The language barrier, perhaps? For me eventually but why for Blair too? :-) Being a Stampboards member, I don't receive the message when I click on the link. Perhaps going to stampboards.com and using the Search function to find the relevant page might help. I do know that there are many lurkers on Stampboards, who have never registered, yet seem to be able to access it without difficulty. Tony |
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Turkish Constantinople City post - help please
On Jul 3, 4:41*am, Asia-translation
wrote: On Jul 2, 3:58*am, "Victor Manta" wrote: When I opened Nick's link, I could read in the center of the page:http://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic...84799&e=784799 "Login. You have been notified about this topic, please login to view it." The language barrier, perhaps? For me eventually but why for Blair too? :-) Being a Stampboards member, I don't receive the message when I click on the link. Perhaps going to stampboards.com and using the Search function to find the relevant page might help. *I do know that there are many lurkers on Stampboards, who have never registered, yet seem to be able to access it without difficulty. Tony I am quite capable of joining Stampboards and other sites. However, in the last few years I was on too m,any sites and reduced the number. The point I was trying to make was one of common courtesy. If you you ask a question in several fora and get a reply in two or more, then I was taught that it was courteous to post the final reply take the final (or best) response to the question and repost it to groups where I had had at least one reply. Am I just too old fashioned? Blair post |
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Turkish Constantinople City post - help please
On Jul 7, 12:25*am, "Blair (TC)" wrote:
Am I just too old fashioned? Blair Not in my opinion! Tony |
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