Catalogues for UK, Germany, Belgium?

What are *the* country catalogues to use for these countries?
I'm thinking of swicthing to the 'local' catalogue instead of using my
Yverts Europe. Next time I'm there I can buy them.

The German catalogue should cover the German city issues, regions like
Bayern and the constantly "occupation changing" Saar, Allied occupation. It
does not have to cover East Germany.

The UK catalogue should cover islands like Jersey, Man. Cinderalles like
Lundy, Herm, Stroma, St Kilda, Staffa would be nice but not necessary. It
does not have to be detailed on Machins, nothing beats Deegam ;-)

Thanks in advance
Jan


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For Germany, you can't beat Michel who do a range - I find the Spezial-Katalog meets my requirements with plenty of detail about
plate differences, shades, watermarks etc but not too much to manage. For Britain, you need Stanley Gibbons though I don't know
which ones you would need for those Cinderella places or even if SG would lower themselves to admit that they exist.

John Mycroft

Jan Doggen wrote:
What are *the* country catalogues to use for these countries?
I'm thinking of swicthing to the 'local' catalogue instead of using my
Yverts Europe. Next time I'm there I can buy them.

The German catalogue should cover the German city issues, regions like
Bayern and the constantly "occupation changing" Saar, Allied occupation. It
does not have to cover East Germany.

The UK catalogue should cover islands like Jersey, Man. Cinderalles like
Lundy, Herm, Stroma, St Kilda, Staffa would be nice but not necessary. It
does not have to be detailed on Machins, nothing beats Deegam ;-)

Thanks in advance
Jan


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Dear Jan,

For Belgium, you should get the "officiele belgische
postzegelcatalogus". It comes in a dutch or french version. Release date
around the end of september. It has Belgium (including service,
railroad, tax, ads, occupation, private, ...), Congo, Zaire, Rwanda,
Burundi and a small Europa CEPT listing.

I would also recommend Stanley Gibbons' Collect Channel Islands
and Isle of Man. This catalogue covers Jersey, Guernsey, Alderney and
the Isle of Man. But no Cinderella listings in here.

Best regards,
Sir Hystrix
--
www.wry.hystrix.be

For regular GB issues there is a 5 ( or is it 6 now ?) volume set of
Specialised catalogues from SG. As one of them covers machins ( vol
4 ?) you can omit that in favour of the Deegam. A big "however" you
need to take out a mortgage !! If you are not too fussy about "
Current stamp value" older copies of the set( volumes 1,2 & 3? )
leading up to the introduction of decimal currency should be
obtainable at a discount. You will need a copy of the "Decimal
Commemoratives" ( vol 5 as was )as up to date as possible. I haven't
seen one for a while but think it is now available loose-leaf with
annual additions and price revisions. If you wish to specialise in GB
in depth these are essential "primers", but if you get into plating
penny blacks and reds ( you should be so wealthy !! ) there are other
studies which do the job better than Volume 1. - although to be fair
you still need volume 1 for the surface printed stamps - the "heavy
stuff" restrict themselves ( in general) to the line engraved.

I would love to have a collection of all the specialised catalogues on
earth. I have a number of the SG European and World specialised "
parts" ( most quite old ) but the more I use them, the more I realise
that SG s idea of specialised is not mine!! ( apart from the
aforementioned GB )They are better than the simplified but only just -
and even with the most modern issues the information that they do NOT
contain far outweighs what they do - they barely mention phosphor and
flourescent except in the most basic of terms and except where they
have obviously cribbed a specialist study ( as in Australian States in
the "Red" book ) paper differences are usually ignored altogether -
and as for shades..........

Malcolm





On May 4, 5:48*pm, Sir Hystrix wrote:
Jan Doggen wrote:
What are *the* country catalogues to use for these countries?
I'm thinking of swicthing to the 'local' catalogue instead of using my
Yverts Europe. Next time I'm there I can buy them.

The German catalogue should cover the German city issues, regions like
Bayern and the constantly "occupation changing" Saar, Allied occupation. It
does not have to cover East Germany.

The UK catalogue should cover islands like Jersey, Man. Cinderalles like
Lundy, Herm, Stroma, St Kilda, Staffa would be nice but not necessary. It
does not have to be detailed on Machins, nothing beats Deegam ;-)

Thanks in advance
Jan

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Dear Jan,

For Belgium, you should get the "officiele belgische
postzegelcatalogus". It comes in a dutch or french version. Release date
around the end of september. It has Belgium (including service,
railroad, tax, ads, occupation, private, ...), Congo, Zaire, Rwanda,
Burundi and a small Europa CEPT listing.

I would also recommend Stanley Gibbons' Collect Channel Islands
and Isle of Man. This catalogue covers Jersey, Guernsey, Alderney and
the Isle of Man. But no Cinderella listings in here.

Best regards,
Sir Hystrix
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On Thu, 15 May 2008 02:32:19 -0700, malcolm wrote:

If you
wish to specialise in GB in depth these are essential "primers", but if
you get into plating penny blacks and reds ( you should be so wealthy !!
) there are other studies which do the job better than Volume 1. -
although to be fair you still need volume 1 for the surface printed
stamps - the "heavy stuff" restrict themselves ( in general) to the line
engraved.

You can still plate reds on a relatively modest budget. Penny red stars
are an interest of mine: some works I own outright, some I borrowed from
the APRL and photocopied each page!

I would love to have a collection of all the specialised catalogues on
earth.

Yes, this has replaced most of my adolescent fantasies. I believe then
we could all talk like Blair.

It is my *great* hope that the Internet, especially the force of Google,
will make this a reality within the next ten years. When *all* the
world's books are digitized, there is *no* reason why I shouldn't be able
to buy a book on the iTunes model: $9.99 and download the PDF to my e-
book reader -- or have the whole bloody thing ad-supported! Searchable,
printable, sharable (?) -- and all the information!

Today's situation is a bizarre combination of what happens when books are
both physical, heavy, and collectible objects, and storehouses of
information. Today, we have to wait for a copy to show up at auction,
then bid, then pay shipping.... Nonsense. Book collectors will still
have their volumes to pet. Information-seekers will have their
*information* when they want it.

I have a number of the SG European and World specialised " parts"
( most quite old ) but the more I use them, the more I realise that SG s
idea of specialised is not mine!!

*Yes*. So true. You spend those prices, you want to take it to
flyspecking levels. The catalogue with which I'm most impressed,
balancing ease-of-use with coverage, is the Bookmark Catalogue of British
Decimal Postage Stamp Books, Seventh Edition. 1811 pages (!), but
distributed as a non-DRMed PDF!.

Actually, I cross-reference between that and the Machin Collectors' Club
catalogue of GB definitives (traditionally-printed) as the latter prices,
and the former does not. But -- to strengthen my point -- the latter is
now sold out, and no new issue planned! So costs for it will skyrocket
until there is demand enough, at which point I certainly hope the
publishers will distribute as a PDF (savable PDF, please, with check-
boxes one can click!)

If there were *one* volume, written as well, for the whole world's
booklets, that handles the job of both -- it could be half a million
pages, wiki-constructed (as a wise contributor said), distributed on DVD
or online -- but alas, I dream.

We now have the *technology* to have a website to fully cross-reference
all the world's catalogue numbers, for instance. But it's those pesky
laws again, standing in our way. I've gotten cease-and-desist letters
from Amos Hobby Publishing (Scott) for simply naming my stamp images with
Scott Catalogue Numbers -- the letter is somewhat polite, but foolish. I
*know* their IP is valuable, but there *must* be another way, and in the
long run, I'm *helping* them.

--
Joshua H. McGee, Los Angeles, California, USA
Member: APS, ATA, ISWSC, AFDCS, MBPC, MCC, BPS
President: http://www.penguinstamps.org
Trade?: http://www.mcgees.org/stamp-offers/