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  #61  
Old November 7th 03, 10:29 PM
A.Gent
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"Reid Goldsborough" wrote in message
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On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 03:16:16 GMT, "Nick Knight"
wrote:

Begs this question: If he "knocks down" the last one, as he sees it,

what
the hell will he ever post about? Ah, but as most would answer and as I
already have: Who Cares??!!! rhetorical


Here's another example of how A.Gent,


dross snipped

To thine own self be true, Reid.

You said you hadn't read my post, now you quote from it.

I'm still a newbie here. I wish I'd listened to the more experienced
posters a year ago when I first encountered the fatuous one.

'not Reiding him any more'


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  #62  
Old November 7th 03, 10:41 PM
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"A.Gent" wrote:

I have copied the post below in full purely to allow it remain archived in
Google.
Don't bother proceeding if you expect a logical discourse.

"Reid Goldsborough" wrote in message
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On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 03:16:16 GMT, "Nick Knight"
wrote:

Begs this question: If he "knocks down" the last one, as he sees it,

what
the hell will he ever post about? Ah, but as most would answer and as I
already have: Who Cares??!!! rhetorical


(snip)

Among the voluminous junk he has said is his latest comment that the
coin Web sites I've created are amateurish. This is much like an
earlier comment from someone here who said that the articles I write
for coin publications are written by others and that everybody who has
ever responded to one of my online posts should get bylines for these
articles.


Exaggeration and hyperbole! Deceit and Lies! Strawman Argument, to boot.
Reid struggles with the concept of attribution, film at 11. He did, at
least, owe us the courtesy of identifying those 'online posts' as
fishing expeditions, the results of which were going to be substituted
for research.

Nobody but me has written a single sentence of any of these
articles, and for information I've relied on far more than posts to
this newsgroup. It's all idiocy, idiotic flaming, with no thought
given to the veracity of what is said.

A.Gent says what I do is amateurish.


I agree. The writing style is clunky and vague. The flow of thought is
absent. The facts are questionable and the research was done by others,
duped into participating in what was never identified as an Article for
Hire. Reid Goldsborough, as an author, is the numismatic equivalent of
paint-by-numbers.

Alan
'publish and perish'
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Old November 7th 03, 11:02 PM
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"Reid Goldsborough" wrote in message
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A.Gent says what I do is amateurish. The word "amateurish" has two
main meanings, done for payment and done well.


Sorry Reid.
I forgot it has to be obvious for you to grasp it.
==========================================
amateurish

adj : lacking professional skill or expertise; "a very amateurish job";
"inexpert but conscientious efforts"; "an unskilled painting" [syn: amateur,
inexpert, unskilled]
===========================================

Hint:
When you reach for the dictionary, look at the "syn." section of the
definition, not the "ant" section.

Do you *really* think that "amateurish" means"
* done for payment, or
* done well?


...I've been writing for a
living for 20 years, have written many hundreds of articles, two
books, cowritten several others, have won two national writing awards
and several small ones, write a nationally syndicated column, have
written speeches and video scripts and radio commercials and so on.


Decades ago, when I was working in publishing, your type (Reid) was referred
to as a "C-Grade hack".

This was not necessarily a perjorative. (Well, not *entirely*) It meant that
you could string together a few hundreds of words without too many spelling
or gramatical errors, and with a reasonable degree of readability.

We would typically hire a C-grader if we had a backlog of (say) press
releases to process, or some such similar routine work. A C-Grader can
handle this work well, because it requires little or no imagination or
creativity.

C-Graders are cheaper, too.


...And I suppose I'm focusing too much lately on the
junk of this one person, giving it play it doesn't deserve, so it's
time to killfile him, something I should have done earlier.


This time, try to remain true to your words, Reid.

(Visions of a six-inch-tall Reid, jumping up and down, squealing "Me Me Me
Me!")



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Old November 8th 03, 02:10 PM
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In , on 11/08/2003
at 07:35 AM, "Bob Peterson" said:

I avoid kill filling people, although I make an occassional exception. I
think part of the beauty of a NG is the diversity of opinion, even with the
occassional rant. If you want only people who agree with you, than start a
moderated mail list.


That's an option, but the other beauty of a NG is free choice. Some people
think that ignoring select people somehow infringes on freedom of speach.
Not. People can speak all they want. I can choose to listen if I want. Or
not.

I'm all for diversity of opinion. I love a good debate, or even a logical
argument. I have no time for wasteful whining or chronic crotchiness, and
there are a handful of folks here who do only these. These are the folks in
my killfiles. Having read their drivel for some time before placing them
there, I KNOW I'm not missing any good debate or logical arguments ... just
ignoring the wasteful whining or chronic crotchiness. It's that simple. No
need to start a moderated mail list. You don't use a sledge hammer to tap a
picture hook in the wall ... although some here might suggest it is teh best
method. Use the right tool for the job. Ignore people who try to convince
you that your methods, that have worked for years, don't work.

The other beauty of a NG: being able to take an opinion ... any opinion,
for what you feel its worth

Nick.

Nick
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Old November 9th 03, 02:06 AM
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Reid Goldsborough wrote:

On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 14:10:34 GMT, "Nick Knight"
wrote:

I'm all for diversity of opinion. I love a good debate, or even a logical
argument. I have no time for wasteful whining or chronic crotchiness, and
there are a handful of folks here who do only these. These are the folks in
my killfiles. Having read their drivel for some time before placing them
there, I KNOW I'm not missing any good debate or logical arguments ... just
ignoring the wasteful whining or chronic crotchiness. It's that simple. No
need to start a moderated mail list. You don't use a sledge hammer to tap a
picture hook in the wall ... although some here might suggest it is teh best
method. Use the right tool for the job. Ignore people who try to convince
you that your methods, that have worked for years, don't work.


Well said, and very true. There's a bright line between substantive
debate and ****y flamejunk. Sometimes things can get murky, with the
former morphing into the latter. But some here engage largely in the
latter, often deliberately trying to sabotage threads about subjects
they have no interest in and know nothing about. The usual suspects.


Hmmmm. I had been wondering where "****y" went. Hadn't seen it for
several weeks. Thought you might have traded it in for "vitriol", but
apparently "****y" was just in the shop for maintenance. Can you
possibly use "****y" and "vitriol" in the same post for those of us who
check these things?

Bruce
'I couldn't drink one more Vitriol, sir, or I'll be ****y for sure'
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Old November 9th 03, 07:33 AM
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Bruce Hickmott wrote:

On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 12:46:58 -0500, Chrysta Wilson
is alleged to have written:

In article ,
says...
Reid asked Doris:

"Are you the one who's the teacher?"


No, Reid. DORIS is the Aussiephile farmer. CHRYSTA is the English teacher.

Geez. How long have you been posting here? Maybe you need a scorecard.


No problem. We're all just chicks anyway. I can see how it would be
really hard to tell us apart. There are so many of us to keep track of
on here, and without a visual frame of reference to slot us as either
"dogs" or "babes," how can we expect him to know which of us is which?


*splorf*

Well, I don't need degrading cheesecake photos to tell a teacher from a farmer.
But they'd help. Post please? :-)

Bruce (Ducking and running)


Hmmmm. More proof that Reid only reads Reid, which speaks volumes to
the quality of his reading list. What a narcissistic nerd!

Alan
'hi, girls'
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Old November 9th 03, 10:49 AM
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snipWhat a narcissistic nerd!
Alan
'hi, girls'
I resemble that remark.
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