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Fake Greek Coin sold on eBay
An eBay auction (closed August 4) sold a Macedonian tetradrachm, positively
identified as a fake by Cliff Laubstein, who reported this on the Coin Forgery Discussion List (CFDL): I don't believe everything I read on that forum, but in this case I think he is correct. Here is a link to the auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=160013058599 Dave Welsh Classical Coins www.classicalcoins.com |
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Fake Greek Coin sold on eBay
Dave Welsh wrote: An eBay auction (closed August 4) sold a Macedonian tetradrachm, positively identified as a fake by Cliff Laubstein, who reported this on the Coin Forgery Discussion List (CFDL): I don't believe everything I read on that forum, but in this case I think he is correct. Here is a link to the auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=160013058599 Dave Welsh Classical Coins www.classicalcoins.com I strongly dislike return terms like this - in order to return the item, you have to get a statement from a museum or major auction house saying that it is not authentic - it is in the fine print. That alone would cause me not to bid on any of their stuff. Most respectable dealers offer an "unconditional" return privilege, for at least 5-7 days upon receipt. John |
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Fake Greek Coin sold on eBay
"Dave Welsh" wrote in message news:Sp1Gg.1399$AP2.460@fed1read10... An eBay auction (closed August 4) sold a Macedonian tetradrachm, positively identified as a fake by Cliff Laubstein, who reported this on the Coin Forgery Discussion List (CFDL): I don't believe everything I read on that forum, but in this case I think he is correct. Here is a link to the auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=160013058599 It sure looks real to me. That's why I have no business bidding on such items. Whose fault would it have been, therefore, had I bid and won? Mr. Jaggers |
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Fake Greek Coin sold on eBay
"Mr. Jaggers" lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com wrote in message ... "Dave Welsh" wrote in message news:Sp1Gg.1399$AP2.460@fed1read10... An eBay auction (closed August 4) sold a Macedonian tetradrachm, positively identified as a fake by Cliff Laubstein, who reported this on the Coin Forgery Discussion List (CFDL): I don't believe everything I read on that forum, but in this case I think he is correct. Here is a link to the auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=160013058599 It sure looks real to me. That's why I have no business bidding on such items. Whose fault would it have been, therefore, had I bid and won? Mr. Jaggers The hidden bidders ID alone would do it for me. |
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Fake Greek Coin sold on eBay
"Mr. Jaggers" lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com wrote in message
... "Dave Welsh" wrote in message news:Sp1Gg.1399$AP2.460@fed1read10... An eBay auction (closed August 4) sold a Macedonian tetradrachm, positively identified as a fake by Cliff Laubstein, who reported this on the Coin Forgery Discussion List (CFDL): I don't believe everything I read on that forum, but in this case I think he is correct. Here is a link to the auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=160013058599 It sure looks real to me. That's why I have no business bidding on such items. Whose fault would it have been, therefore, had I bid and won? As I have been pointing out, it would have been eBay's fault. eBay should not allow fakes to be sold, or other fraudulent activity that could be prevented with reasonable precautions. The Government should not allow eBay to operate a venue that is polluted by ongoing criminal activity. The extent of fraud on eBay is massive. Dave Welsh Classical Coins www.classicalcoins.com |
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Fake Greek Coin sold on eBay
"Dave Welsh" wrote in message news:4l3Gg.1407$AP2.118@fed1read10... "Mr. Jaggers" lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com wrote in message ... "Dave Welsh" wrote in message news:Sp1Gg.1399$AP2.460@fed1read10... An eBay auction (closed August 4) sold a Macedonian tetradrachm, positively identified as a fake by Cliff Laubstein, who reported this on the Coin Forgery Discussion List (CFDL): I don't believe everything I read on that forum, but in this case I think he is correct. Here is a link to the auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=160013058599 It sure looks real to me. That's why I have no business bidding on such items. Whose fault would it have been, therefore, had I bid and won? As I have been pointing out, it would have been eBay's fault. eBay should not allow fakes to be sold, or other fraudulent activity that could be prevented with reasonable precautions. The Government should not allow eBay to operate a venue that is polluted by ongoing criminal activity. The extent of fraud on eBay is massive. I suppose that, if the fraud could be isolated and viewed as a separate entity, it would indeed be massive. I have certainly seen my share of it. A fake 1799 large cent just closed last evening for well over a thousand dollars. The sorry bidder (if he is real, that auction had private bidding also) or his/her heirs will one day have a nasty surprise. We'll all stand around and lament about how Grandpa got taken by an online sharpie who saw him coming. Such people should be publicly flogged, then drawn and quartered, we'll say, some of us out loud. No one will ever think to suggest that maybe Grandpa should have invested in some reference materials, read them, and heeded them, thereby girding himself for the Battle of Copper Creek. There were several on this newsgroup and several on another who spotted this 1799 forgery with no trouble at all, just as you have done with the bogo ancient coin, not because we're geniuses, but because we care enough to educate ourselves ahead of time against chicanery. A true numismatist will then share his knowledge in an attempt to educate others. Some of us have paid tuition in various amounts, yours truly included. I've yet to meet a collector who hasn't, in fact. If it's not an out-and-out forgery, it's cleaning, hidden damage, or, what is the most common forgery of all, overgrading. Nevertheless, I don't have access to a number that represents the total, and therefore, the percentage, of online auctions that are bogus. Do you? If yes, you can strengthen your argument against online auction services by providing that documentation. Otherwise, anyone's guess is as good as yours, and no better than examining an elephant through a soda straw. And the whole issue becomes tantamount to buying watermelons at the Saturday morning farmer's market. Mr. Jaggers |
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