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Thank You for reposting this !! keep doing it
i just got a few links i did not have in m collection one thing i can say yes most not all on this group are into the 40's to 60's boxes a few of us love our 70s beauties i try to help as i can with the limited (but expanding) wokings of the 70's seeburg Jim W Happy Seeburg Olympian Owner!in Blue "Ken In Texas" wrote in message ... THE ALT.COLLECTING.JUKE-BOXES FAQ Frequently Asked Questions alt.collecting.juke-boxes Revision: 1.9 January 7th, 2004 This is the Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) list for the Usenet newsgroup alt.collecting.juke-boxes This FAQ was developed by Ken In Texas who used other FAQ's as a guide. Comments and suggestions for improvement welcomed. Send email to 1) Purpose & History To facilitate the discussion of jukeboxes both old and new by the novice. expert, and curious The newsgroup was proposed by a collector who had the vision to know that such a group was needed. Since that time the group had expanded and grown to a large number of users 2) Guidelines to posting to alt.collecting.juke-boxes alt.collecting.juke-boxes is a Usenet group, no different from any other. As such, most if not all of the usual guidelines for posting articles apply. Remember that before posting to alt.collecting.juke-boxes you should already be familiar with the posting conventions and guidelines that are posted periodically to the newsgroup "news.announce.newusers". If you cannot find these guidelines by reading the group, wait a while and a copy *will* be posted, or try asking fellow users or the system administrators at your site for a copy. In addition, newcomers are strongly advised to read alt.collecting.juke-boxes to get a feel for the group (at a minimum, have read this FAQ) before posting for the first time. SPAM or SPAMMING posters is strictly prohibited! 4) -- I want to buy and sell jukeboxes and parts by advertising on alt.collecting.juke-boxes, are there any tips? These types of postings are acceptable but please put all items in one post. Common postings include: FA = for auction (please post eBay/other auction ads this way) FS = for sale FT = For trade FS/T = For sale or trade Tech = Means you need help with a problem WTB = Wanted to buy WTT = Want to trade 5) -- Somebody told me that this group is only for jukes from the 1940-1960's This is not true discussion of all musical jukeboxes is welcome. 6) -- I'm new to collecting, someone is offering me a (insert box here) is this a good price (insert price here) Feel free to post questions of this nature but be aware prices vary widely by location, condition and model. Several books are available to help the collector with value, identification and repair. Jukebox Related Books (many are out of print) The Always Jukin' Official Guide to Collectible Jukeboxes American Jukebox: The Classic Years Complete Identification Guide to the Wurlitzer Jukebox Jukebox: The Golden Age Jukebox: The Golden Age, 1937 Through 1948 The Jukebox Bluebook: A Guide to Jukebox Collecting and Identification from the Early Years to the Present (Second Edition) Jukebox Saturday Night Jukebox the Golden Age Jukeboxes, 1900-1992 : Obscure, Mysterious and Innovative American Jukeboxes - Frank Adams; Plastic Comb American Jukebox: The Classic Years - Vincent Lynch, Kazuhiro Tsuruta; Vintage Jukeboxes - Christopher Pearce Jukebox - Dieter Ludwig c1994 Bill Bickers' Juke-Talk Jukeboxes - Adams, Lukas and Maschke Jukeboxes, A Blast From the Past - Scott Wood c1992 Seeburg Jukeboxes. 62 Years of Fun 1927-1989 - Adams Vintage Jukeboxes, The Hall of Fame - Christopher Pierce 7) -- I want to buy a (insert box here), what can I do? Jukeboxes can be bought from several sources: a) ...from operators, Operators are the people who provide the jukes you see in arcades truck stops, clubs and diners. Older jukes cease to make money (this is especially true of 45 RPM machines), and often get "warehoused". The "Amusement Devices" or "Vending" section of your Yellow Pages is the best place to find a list of operators. Many operators also place stickers with their name and phone number on jukes they operate. Some dealers who specialize in "Home Sales" will advertise alongside operators in the Yellow Pages. Usually their prices are far higher than those of a true operator, so it pays to shop around. Necessity never made a good barging, don't be too eager. b) ...from auctions, Auctions are held periodically around the country. These are where operators sell their surplus jukes, either to other operators or to collectors such as yourself. You can find out about auctions in your area by reading the newsgroups, by checking a "Miscellaneous" section in your local paper or by asking a few operators in your area (since they may be selling jukes at the auction, you may receive a rare showing of helpfulness) c) ...from ads in your local paper, Most papers have a "Miscellaneous" or equivalent section in the classifieds. Prices are often artificially high, as the sellers are hoping to find "gullible" first time buyers. This does not, however, prevent you, as an informed buyer, from haggling the price back down. Often the sellers will be the same people as the dealers listed above who specialize in "Home Sales". d) ...or from the net! Read the newsgroup on a daily basis. e).....From places that specialize in Jukebox sales There are many amusement companies that specialize in the sell of antique jukeboxes many offer warranties and deliver to your door. 8) What kinds of Jukeboxes are there? Some play records (either 78 rpm or 45 rpm) a few older jukes mixed both (33 1/3 and 45 rpm records) Today jukeboxes are either CD or download boxes. The number of selections very by model 20,48,100, and 200 selections were common on 45 rpm and 78 rpm boxes. Most CD jukeboxes hold 100 Cd's. If you figure 10 songs per disc that totals 1000 selections in one jukebox! The newest jukeboxes have no CD's or records but rather download music from the internet to a local hard drive. 9) Can I get a reproduction of the jukebox that had bubble tubes? You are likely referring to a 1015 Wurlitzer although it was not the only jukebox made with bubble tubes. Most of the major manufactures make reproductions of this famous model 9a) I want to buy a good one which one is best? Each is different. Some are American made (Rock-Ola & Rowe) and some are not. All of them have been built to survive route conditions (bars, taverns etc). It's very likely that any of them will give you years of trouble free service at home. 10) -- How much does a juke cost? Brand new jukes can often run close to $7000 on the high side. A restored Wurlitzer 1015 can go for almost $15,000. Jukes can be bought in various conditions for often a few hundred dollars. Prices tend to vary greatly. 11) Do manufacturers maintain websites? Yes they do see the links below. NSM Music Group Limited (no website at this time but still in business) http://www.roweami.com/ http://www.wurlitzer-jukebox.com http://www.rock-ola.com/ www.touchtunes.com 12) -- I just bought a juke, but there is no documentation, can someone send me some? Manuals are widely available from rowe-ami, Seeburg, Rockola etc. Several companies specialize in complete manuals and schematics. 13) -- Where can I buy parts or manuals for my jukebox? Off the net, at shows, and from dealers and operators. Older parts are often expensive. you can start with: www.victoryglass.com www.jukeboxparts.com www.jukebox-parts.com http://www.jukeboxusa.com http://www.jukemania.com/needles.htm 14) Are records still available? Yes but just barely (especially new releases) Very few stores carry them any more. Bigger cities sometimes have record stores that do however. In addition operators may be willing to sell you records they have taken off location. Some sites on the net offer records for sale. Typical price is about 2.50 - 3.00 each. If you buy a "CD" jukebox then this isn't an issue. Here are a few online sources for records. http://www.fasthits.com http://www.arrdis.com http://yesterdayandtodayrecords.com/ http://www.liebermanmusic.com http://www.recordfinders.com http://www.Green45.com http://www.gocontinental.com (the newsgroup FAQ author does not favor any one source over another) 15) What about title strips? In days of old record retailers shipped strips already typed for your jukebox as a courtesy to route operators. Very few companies do this today. Central South One Stop is one 800-251-3052. Some companies make software to make strips on your computer a) http://www.lowprofilesoftware.com/ You can also buy them from the Sterling Title Strip Graphics Inc. 412-322-4555 2100 E. Ohio St. Pittsburgh PA 15212 or download templates for FREE from http://www.pinballrebel.com/archive/other/title.htm or http://www.jukebox.tk (who has many great custom ones) 16) Do I have to use new records? No, but really worn records will shorten your needle life. Thrift stores and garage sales are often a good source for records. 17) Can I suggest a new addition for this FAQ Yes, this FAQ is a work in progress. Any additions would be welcome. Send to 18) Can I post a picture of this new juke I just bought or this item I have for sale? Posting a binary in a non binary group is considered bad manners by the Usenet community. While the charter did allow for it you should really consider the alternative of putting the picture on your web-site then providing the group a link to view it. In other words please don't do it. 19) Is there a place where I can see pictures of different jukebox models. Yes, several pages have photos of jukeboxes. Wurlitzer also maintains pictures on its site. Places to see photos include: http://www.pinballrebel.com/archive/archive.htm http://www.juke-index.co.nz/ http://tomszone.com/Seeburg.html -- Ken In Texas http://www.pinballrebel.com Custom Pinball Cards, Jukeboxes, Drive In's "Never ask a man if he's from Texas. If he is, he'll tell you on his own. If he ain't, no need to embarrass him." |
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