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Old August 28th 05, 09:53 AM
Darren
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On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 16:00:17 GMT, note.boy wrote:

stonej wrote:

Wasen't that a Scottish banknote? I know that Scotland is a part of
the UK
but it is not "British".

Noteboy should have more to say about that.


Me? Whatever gave you that idea? :-)

Another examples of someone getting confused with
Scotland/England/Britain, this is an extremely common confusion in
England, it's amazing and a sad reflection on the English education
system. (Scotland has an entirely separate one)


The problem I see is that whilst the English/Scottish/Welsh difference is
of interest to the minority countries the English tend in the main not to
see the distinction - this has nothing to do with the English education
system. The English in the main, simply don't care,it is reduced to a
curious historical point of interest. There are those in Scotland that like
to blame the English for all the ills of the world, and all the bad that
has happened in Scotland. It's their perogative.


The writer of the article should have used "English" and not "British"
and they would have been correct.

If the Beatles appeared on a Bank of England note it would be the first
time a person born in the 20th century had appeared on an English note
but the second time for a British note, i.e. a note issued in Britain,
which Scotland is part of, unfortunately.


Why unfortunately? What other better outcome would you have forseen for
Scotland given its geographic position and clan mentality?

I once sent for a list of "British" notes for sale expecting to receive a
list of notes issued in various parts of Britain (Scotland England and
maybe Northern Ireland, The Channel Islands and The Isle of Man) but the
list consisted of English notes only, the seller should have described
the list as consisting of "English" notes.


.... This I agree with.

As I don't collect foreign
notes it was of no use to me. Billy


See point one.
Thanks
Darren
- Collections foreign notes, as well as ones from Scotland.
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Old August 28th 05, 11:32 AM
stonej
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Why unfortunately? What other better outcome would you have forseen for

Scotland given its geographic position and clan mentality?


If Scotland were a seperate
country they could be very
wealthy with all that North
Sea oil.

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Old August 28th 05, 01:00 PM
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I used to describe English notes as from Great Britain, also known as United
Kingdom until someone from that part of the country pointed out the
differences:
England is just England,
Great Britain includes England, Scotland and Wales,
United Kingdom includes Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

Part of the reason for my confusion was the Krause Paper Money Catalog lists
only Bank of England notes under Great Britain. And isn't Britainia symbol
of England?

By the way, people from England are called English and from Great Britain
called British. What do you call people from the United Kingdom?

"note.boy" wrote in message
...
stonej wrote:

Wasen't that a Scottish banknote? I know that Scotland is a part of
the UK
but it is not "British".

Noteboy should have more to say about that.


Me? Whatever gave you that idea? :-)

Another examples of someone getting confused with
Scotland/England/Britain, this is an extremely common confusion in
England, it's amazing and a sad reflection on the English education
system. (Scotland has an entirely separate one)

The writer of the article should have used "English" and not "British"
and they would have been correct.

If the Beatles appeared on a Bank of England note it would be the first
time a person born in the 20th century had appeared on an English note
but the second time for a British note, i.e. a note issued in Britain,
which Scotland is part of, unfortunately.

I once sent for a list of "British" notes for sale expecting to receive a
list of notes issued in various parts of Britain (Scotland England and
maybe Northern Ireland, The Channel Islands and The Isle of Man) but the
list consisted of English notes only, the seller should have described
the list as consisting of "English" notes. As I don't collect foreign
notes it was of no use to me. Billy




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Old August 28th 05, 02:29 PM
Darren
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On 28 Aug 2005 03:32:52 -0700, stonej wrote:

Why unfortunately? What other better outcome would you have forseen for

Scotland given its geographic position and clan mentality?


If Scotland were a seperate
country they could be very
wealthy with all that North
Sea oil.


They'd still be arguing about it. I believe it was the Americans that first
brought it ashore not the Scots.
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Old August 28th 05, 02:36 PM
Darren
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On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 08:00:57 -0400, Thomas Chao wrote:

I used to describe English notes as from Great Britain, also known as United
Kingdom until someone from that part of the country pointed out the
differences:
England is just England,


...just splutter!

Great Britain includes England, Scotland and Wales,
United Kingdom includes Great Britain and Northern Ireland.


I like the reference on the CIA factsheet for the UK. It defines it as
'slightly smaller than Oregon'

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...k/geos/uk.html

Part of the reason for my confusion was the Krause Paper Money Catalog lists
only Bank of England notes under Great Britain. And isn't Britainia symbol
of England?


Britannia was the old name given to that part of the UK roughly equivalent
to England, I think by the Romans. You also have Caledonia for Scotland and
Hibernia for Ireland - I can't recall anything for Wales. I think Britannia
was more a symbol of the British Empire "Rule Britannia" having been
written by a Scot (those guys get everywhere!)


By the way, people from England are called English and from Great Britain
called British. What do you call people from the United Kingdom?


British. I'm not aware of any specific distinction.

Thanks
Darren

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Old August 28th 05, 02:44 PM
Ian
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Darren wrote:

On 28 Aug 2005 03:32:52 -0700, stonej wrote:


Why unfortunately? What other better outcome would you have forseen for

Scotland given its geographic position and clan mentality?


If Scotland were a seperate
country they could be very
wealthy with all that North
Sea oil.



They'd still be arguing about it. I believe it was the Americans that first
brought it ashore not the Scots.


Darren. Give it a rest. You're beginning to sound more uptight than a
ducks arse in a storm.


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Old August 28th 05, 03:25 PM
note.boy
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Thomas Chao wrote:

I used to describe English notes as from Great Britain, also known as United
Kingdom until someone from that part of the country pointed out the
differences:
England is just England,
Great Britain includes England, Scotland and Wales,
United Kingdom includes Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

Part of the reason for my confusion was the Krause Paper Money Catalog lists
only Bank of England notes under Great Britain. And isn't Britainia symbol
of England?


Bank of England notes should be listed under England and not Great Britain so I
can understand why you are confused, so are Krause.

I believe that the Ancient Romans invented Britannia, which at the time was a
personification of England, to have on their coins but now it taken to mean
Britain.

Some ebay sellers describe the female seated figure on notes of the Scottish
British Linen Bank as "Britannia", but she is actually "Pallas". Billy



By the way, people from England are called English and from Great Britain
called British. What do you call people from the United Kingdom?

"note.boy" wrote in message
...
stonej wrote:

Wasen't that a Scottish banknote? I know that Scotland is a part of
the UK
but it is not "British".

Noteboy should have more to say about that.


Me? Whatever gave you that idea? :-)

Another examples of someone getting confused with
Scotland/England/Britain, this is an extremely common confusion in
England, it's amazing and a sad reflection on the English education
system. (Scotland has an entirely separate one)

The writer of the article should have used "English" and not "British"
and they would have been correct.

If the Beatles appeared on a Bank of England note it would be the first
time a person born in the 20th century had appeared on an English note
but the second time for a British note, i.e. a note issued in Britain,
which Scotland is part of, unfortunately.

I once sent for a list of "British" notes for sale expecting to receive a
list of notes issued in various parts of Britain (Scotland England and
maybe Northern Ireland, The Channel Islands and The Isle of Man) but the
list consisted of English notes only, the seller should have described
the list as consisting of "English" notes. As I don't collect foreign
notes it was of no use to me. Billy



  #18  
Old August 29th 05, 10:32 AM
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"stonej" wrote in message
oups.com...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/e...de/4187844.stm


Actually QEII was born in the 20th century, and she is on English notes...


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Old August 29th 05, 11:07 AM
stonej
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Actually QEII was born in the 20th century, and she is on English
notes...


That is correct, the BBC needs better research and editors when they
write news articles.

They probably meant to say first non royal born in the 20th century.

 




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