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Whatever hasppen to the Guy
Phil,
Yes that would be me that posted that article, and I did make the pilgrimage, along with my wife and son. Here is the scoop. When I got to Calif. I visited with my Mother for 4 days, and then we headed off to look at the cache. We went to where my friend lives and he had at his house probably somewhere in the neighborhood of 20 or so 50 MM ammo cans filled with all denominations from Lincoln's to Morgan's. After 2 days my wife had, had enough of my friend and I going through coins, that I had to take her and the son to Sacramento to fly home to Florida. Well I went back and stayed 3 more days. I looked at some many coins that I left cross-eyed, and I only got to look at not even quite 1/3 of the total {it's split 3 ways... my friend, his mother, and sister} All I can say is that I was very surprised indeed, that his father had taken to time to separate all dates and MM's and everything rolled. I read some of the posts and they say something about laughing that this was possible........ well it was possible. They actually had to get a back hoe to dig up the container, before they could get into it. Most of the ammo cans were coated in cosmoleen, which is a waterproofing material the Gov't uses {military}, as he was also a major Gov't surplus dealer and very well known in the Sacramento area.I would say that the majority of the coins were Franklin's. Walkers,quarters, Merc's. 90% of the silver is all coins that he kept when he operated a very large flea market in Stockton Calif. for about 15 years.The condition of the all the coins in general were from VF to AU. There were many rolls from Brinks that were mostly Kennedy's. He also has so many boxes of silver bullion coins that it's ridiculous, and they are all in MS. Gold coins however were not what I expected, my friend exaggerated a little bit about that. What his father was mostly into saving were Mexican 50 pesos..... which were all great but I was looking for the horde of St.Guad's. He did have a few rolls of them mostly all AU to better. Lincoln's.................... I didn't think it was possible that a person could save that many, and I only got to see less than a third of the true amount. Here is what I brought home for me.................... to sell, do whatever I want to do with them. 10 rolls of '64 Kennedy's MS 5 rolls of Standing Lib. Quarters 10 rolls of Wash. quarters {silver various dates/mm's} 20 rolls of Merc's 50 rolls of Lincoln's..... various dates........ all "S" mint mark. 10 50 pesos coins all 1945...at least AU When I got to the airport everything went very well at the reservation desk, up until the point where I was asked how many bags I wanted to check. I checked my suitcase on the plane, but took the small suitcase with the coins with me on the plane. Well when I got to the security checkpoint this is where things got kind of tough. When the bag went through the x-ray the woman behind the counter gave me one of those, this is not your day looks. She immediately called a man over and they pulled me off the line.I heard her make some kind of comment that "somebody must have had a great day in Reno". They proceeded to take every roll of coins out of my bag. Well they weren't real happy with me when begged them not to open the rolls of Kennedy's. Everything else was loose rolls so I had no problem with that, but not the half dollar rolls.......... those I didn't want to be opened until I got home. Well the man proceeded to open the first one anyway, and took all the halves out, which I had to put back in. After that he was OK, as he could see that it was just a bunch of rolled coins, and no hidden explosive devices. Well I have been going through them slowly since I have been home, and haven't found the rolls of '09 S VDB's that I was hoping for, or all the rest of the precious dates and MM's that i hoped would be there, but I have found many great coins, and my albums are getting filled. I will be selling some of the coins soon, so keep an eye out. I will make a post to the NG when I do this, but it won't be for a while. I did offer to sell a roll of the Kennedy's to a guy last week that posted a request for anybody that had any, and haven't seen a reply from him yet. Next summer when I go on my annual gold mining trip, I will be looking, and bringing back more coins, as he is going to let me sell all that I want to. I have talked with both his mother and sister and they have given me the same answer. The main thing is, that there are certain circumstances regarding these coins. The main thing is that his mother is heavily into developing property and she could give a hoot less about a bunch of coins. Her daughter and my friend are also both so wealthy, and have other things going, that they like their mother really don't think about the coins much............... to them, they are "just there." There is also a story surrounding the coins that involved the father in a rather gruesome way. Seems that he was beaten up and almost killed in 1980 over the coin stash. I remember my friend telling me his Dad got robbed and beat up, but there was no mention of the coins at that time. This is a friend I have had since 10 years old, and we are both 53 now, but I am not family, I am still just a friend of the family. I knew I should have married his sister all those years ago....G Naw just kidding! So when they get around to it, they will let me get deeper into the pile, but it will be at their time and date.......... unfortunate for me. Like I said I will be selling some of the coins online, and have made contact with a person in this NG already about the bullion as he lives out that way close to where they are. I'm going to take a bunch to the Hollywood Coin Show this next Sunday and see what I can do with the Lincoln's. Well it wasn't quite the Treasure of the Century like I thought, but then again, I haven't seen but just a taste of the entire stash, so I'm just going to keep my fingers crossed until I can get a better hand on the situation. John Phil DeMayo wrote: Bruce Remick wrote: It was John Mason: http://tinyurl.com/m1id he's been back posting for a while....I keep forgetting to ask him what happened as he was supposed to take a look the first week of August. ++++++++++ Phil DeMayo - always here for my fellow Stooge When bidding online always sit on your helmet Just say NO to counterfeits -- -- Remove NOSPAM to reply Your Friend in Gold Mining......John Artificial Intelligence is No Match for Natural Stupidity |
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John Mason wrote:
: There were many rolls from Brinks that were mostly Kennedy's. He also : has : so many boxes of silver bullion coins that it's ridiculous, and they are : all in MS. The term "bullion coins" can sometimes mean simply "common coins having no premium regardless of condition". : : bit about that. What his father was mostly into saving were Mexican 50 : pesos..... Gee, I'd give a hundred dollars for a real 50 peso. : 10 rolls of '64 Kennedy's MS The 64's may be the highest population US silver coin in mint state, a big coin dealer will likely have 64's as large proportion of their bullion (meaning worth only the silver content) coins. : 5 rolls of Standing Lib. Quarters : 10 rolls of Wash. quarters {silver various dates/mm's} Same with the 64's here, it will take a good eye to separate the higher mint state from the ordinary and damaged. : 20 rolls of Merc's Except for certain dates these make up a large part of the bullion coins available 10 years ago, but Roosevelts may be mainly what can be had for 4 times. : 50 rolls of Lincoln's..... various dates........ all "S" mint mark. The S mints are underpriced on the West coast and overpriced on the East coast. Hope there are lots of teens. : 10 50 pesos coins all 1945...at least AU Does anybody know a good way to tell if they are solid gold or not? :-) I think precious metal dealers have a special setup to compare the weight in air to the weight under water. I know you are having more fun than I am. Joe Fischer -- 3 |
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