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Old March 10th 09, 02:12 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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What do you think. Ever heard of one?
Thanks..
Wolf

http://cgi.ebay.com/USA-inverted-cen...1%7C294%3A5 0
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Old March 10th 09, 02:24 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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What do you think. Ever heard of one?
Thanks..
Wolf

http://cgi.ebay.com/USA-inverted-cen...1%7C294%3A5 0


Wolf--Scott Specialized does not list an invert for the stamp, let alone a
used one. There is no guarantee that the stamp exists as a physical item.
I can take a used $1 Presidential, scan it, "select" the center, "rotate"
the selection 180 degrees, and then graphically ink-in the two different
cancels (one straight line, one wavy) and produce an image to go with the
text.

Maybe an RCSD user will buy it and tell us what it looks like if it ever
arrives.

Stan

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Old March 10th 09, 02:47 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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On Mar 9, 9:24*pm, "Stan Fairchild" wrote:
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What do you think. *Ever heard of one?
Thanks..
Wolf

http://cgi.ebay.com/USA-inverted-cen...n-1938-54-unkn...

Wolf--Scott Specialized does not list an invert for the stamp, let alone a
used one. *There is no guarantee that the stamp exists as a physical item.
I can take a used $1 Presidential, scan it, "select" the center, "rotate"
the selection 180 degrees, and then graphically ink-in the two different
cancels (one straight line, one wavy) and produce an image to go with the
text.

Maybe an RCSD user will buy it and tell us what it looks like if it ever
arrives.

* * * * Stan


Kinda what I was thinking, Stan. I was looking at some Greek stamps
to fill in and came upon a #330b used (CV $7750) from the same seller
starting at $0.99. Humm...What else is this guy offering? I went
and looked and found the $1.00 invert. I was thinking about going
$2.00 on the #330b. I wonder how long he will last oneBay?
Wolf-==-
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Old March 10th 09, 03:56 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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wrote:
What do you think. Ever heard of one?
Thanks..
Wolf

http://cgi.ebay.com/USA-inverted-cen...1%7C294%3A5 0

Well, April Fools Day is less than a month away.

And we have those Bulgarian experts with the 99% genuine comment...

Bill
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Old March 12th 09, 12:09 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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"Sir F. A. Rien"
Not to mention those love 'knife jobs' on the Pan Americans that
'appeared'
a few years back!


???

Did the invert sell?


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Old March 12th 09, 08:02 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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On Mar 12, 11:09 am, "rodney" wrote:

Did the invert sell?


"The seller ended this listing early because the item is no longer
available for sale."

Tony

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Old March 12th 09, 08:30 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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Thanks Tony,
sounds even more like
"Psst! wanna buy a bridge?"

I am currently "rural riding"
a bit peeved I couldn't see the ride through Somerset.

"Asia-translation"
Did the invert sell?

"The seller ended this listing early because the item is no longer
available for sale."
Tony



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Old March 12th 09, 10:48 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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On 12 Mar, 09:02, Asia-translation
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On Mar 12, 11:09 am, "rodney" wrote:

Did the invert sell?


"The seller ended this listing early because the item is no longer
available for sale."

Tony


They had 2 lower offers which they declined. The offer values are no
longer shown, but when they were, one was $1, and the other, IIRC,
about $350.

Chris
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Old March 13th 09, 01:54 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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I enlarged the image of the stamp in Photoshop. See it at
http://www.ingraham.ca/bob/fake_wilson.jpg.

There are areas that have been worked over with the blur tool, and
pixels are softened so that they don't show at all, apparently to hide
the inevitable visual discrepancies that would result when the
vignette was flipped. I'm not sure why the edges of the stamp also
were softened. Maybe to hide "repairs" to the perforation teeth? I
dunno. Someone went to a lot of work for this, but if it had sold for
$5,000 it would have been work at a good hourly wage.

If I were going to try this, I would have a mint stamp to avoid having
to deal with the cancellation.

I saw one of the faked Seaway "inverts" at a local stamp shop. From
the front, it would have fooled anyone, at least with a naked-eye
examination. However, when watermark fluid was used, the cuts used to
remove the vignette and flip it were very clear.

Bob

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Old March 14th 09, 12:47 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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Is it possible to employ an escrow service with these and similar dubious
purchases?

This service will hold your payment and only release it to the seller once
you have confirmed
that you have received what you paid for.


wrote in message
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I enlarged the image of the stamp in Photoshop. See it at
http://www.ingraham.ca/bob/fake_wilson.jpg.

There are areas that have been worked over with the blur tool, and
pixels are softened so that they don't show at all, apparently to hide
the inevitable visual discrepancies that would result when the
vignette was flipped. I'm not sure why the edges of the stamp also
were softened. Maybe to hide "repairs" to the perforation teeth? I
dunno. Someone went to a lot of work for this, but if it had sold for
$5,000 it would have been work at a good hourly wage.

If I were going to try this, I would have a mint stamp to avoid having
to deal with the cancellation.

I saw one of the faked Seaway "inverts" at a local stamp shop. From
the front, it would have fooled anyone, at least with a naked-eye
examination. However, when watermark fluid was used, the cuts used to
remove the vignette and flip it were very clear.

Bob



 




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