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Belgium 1934 Lion on Shield
I am currently checking my accumulation of this stamp and I have a
couple of queries on the 10c value. 1.This is only shown as one shade in the Gibbons benelux catalogue. There appears to be a wide variety of shades from a pale wishy-washy khaki colour to a quite dark brown shade. Does anyone have any info. on this. 2. I have a copy which appears to flouresce white under a long-wave lamp. It has a very clear " Namur 7.3.45" datestamp and is a very pale colour. A similar query regarding a Swedish stamp elsewhere elicited a suggestion that the stamp had been bleached.However this stamp exhibits no evidence that it has been grubby and creased so why would anyone bleach it? ( attempt to clean off the cancel perhaps ?) 3. The raised leg on the lion has usually 3 short lines of marking on it. I have three copies where this appears to have been replaced by a single dot. This spot is in exactly the same place on each copy. Was this stamp redrawn/retouched during its very long period of use? In general the production quality of this stamp appears to be very poor compared with many stamps prior and after. Perhaps some of this can be explained by much of the production being undertaken in wartime with the lack of resources ( and skilled staff?). I am really keen on definitive stamps but I find myself handicapped by the lack of info. in even quite specialised catalogues, and the only way forward is often to compare stamps closely and then ask questions on any anomalies that come to light. Any info. greatly appreciated. More queries might follow if I get some joy here. Malcolm |
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G'day Malcolm, just watching the thread as an onlooker, I presume "State Arms" issue. My SG simplified shows 1936 My Belgian "Officiele Catalogus" shows Feb 1935 The 10c there is listed as 420 Olijf with one variation (a) Olijfzwart olive-black? "malcolm" wrote in message ... I am currently checking my accumulation of this stamp and I have a couple of queries on the 10c value. 1.This is only shown as one shade in the Gibbons benelux catalogue. There appears to be a wide variety of shades from a pale wishy-washy khaki colour to a quite dark brown shade. Does anyone have any info. on this. 2. I have a copy which appears to flouresce white under a long-wave lamp. It has a very clear " Namur 7.3.45" datestamp and is a very pale colour. A similar query regarding a Swedish stamp elsewhere elicited a suggestion that the stamp had been bleached.However this stamp exhibits no evidence that it has been grubby and creased so why would anyone bleach it? ( attempt to clean off the cancel perhaps ?) 3. The raised leg on the lion has usually 3 short lines of marking on it. I have three copies where this appears to have been replaced by a single dot. This spot is in exactly the same place on each copy. Was this stamp redrawn/retouched during its very long period of use? In general the production quality of this stamp appears to be very poor compared with many stamps prior and after. Perhaps some of this can be explained by much of the production being undertaken in wartime with the lack of resources ( and skilled staff?). I am really keen on definitive stamps but I find myself handicapped by the lack of info. in even quite specialised catalogues, and the only way forward is often to compare stamps closely and then ask questions on any anomalies that come to light. Any info. greatly appreciated. More queries might follow if I get some joy here. Malcolm |
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"malcolm" 3. The raised leg on the lion has usually 3 short lines of marking on it. I have three copies where this appears to have been replaced by a single dot. This spot is in exactly the same place on each copy. Was this stamp redrawn/retouched during its very long period of use? Are my eyes deceiving me? or are there two printing processes employed with that series? My wish list would include a small utility, that would take two scans and flip rapidly between the two repetatively. I'd use that for my Aus KG sideface. I currently use the wheel on my scroll mouse. |
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Belgium 1934 Lion on Shield
On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:57:00 -0800 (PST), malcolm
wrote: I am currently checking my accumulation of this stamp and I have a couple of queries on the 10c value. 1.This is only shown as one shade in the Gibbons benelux catalogue. There appears to be a wide variety of shades from a pale wishy-washy khaki colour to a quite dark brown shade. Does anyone have any info. on this. 2. I have a copy which appears to flouresce white under a long-wave lamp. It has a very clear " Namur 7.3.45" datestamp and is a very pale colour. A similar query regarding a Swedish stamp elsewhere elicited a suggestion that the stamp had been bleached.However this stamp exhibits no evidence that it has been grubby and creased so why would anyone bleach it? ( attempt to clean off the cancel perhaps ?) 3. The raised leg on the lion has usually 3 short lines of marking on it. I have three copies where this appears to have been replaced by a single dot. This spot is in exactly the same place on each copy. Was this stamp redrawn/retouched during its very long period of use? In general the production quality of this stamp appears to be very poor compared with many stamps prior and after. Perhaps some of this can be explained by much of the production being undertaken in wartime with the lack of resources ( and skilled staff?). I am really keen on definitive stamps but I find myself handicapped by the lack of info. in even quite specialised catalogues, and the only way forward is often to compare stamps closely and then ask questions on any anomalies that come to light. Any info. greatly appreciated. More queries might follow if I get some joy here. Lessee... Petit sceau de l'Etat... Hopefully, these are the non-overprinted / precancel stamps. Scott states that "several stamps of type A82 exist in various shades". Type A82 is your stamp. It is supposed to be olive bister. Willy Balasse gives us olive and black-olive, plus some varieties but nothing about the leg nor fluorescent. National Prinet 1974 tells us black olive, brown olive and bright olive. Different varieties, but nothing to do with the leg. Lessee what COB states... Olive and deep olive. All the specialized catalogs mention about varieties with the upper Belgique "E" and the lower right 10 C, but nothing about the leg or fluorescent coatings. I could look at my copies to see if there are any similarities. From what I have seen working with Belgian typographed stamps is that there have been many color nuances across the board, especially with type Houyoux 1922-1927, roi Albert 1921-1925 / 1929-1941 and lion heraldique" 1929-1932. I'd add the Poortman issues and others, straight through WWII. Hope this helps some. |
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Belgium 1934 Lion on Shield
"rodney" wrote in message ... | My wish list would include a small utility, that would take two | scans and flip rapidly between the two repetatively. | I'd use that for my Aus KG sideface. | I currently use the wheel on my scroll mouse. I will keep that in mind. Mechanical 'flipping' is the way astronomers used to find objects that move relative to the steady background of stars (planets, asteroids, comets). tjr \ |
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"Terry Reedy" I will keep that in mind. Mechanical 'flipping' is the way astronomers used to find objects that move relative to the steady background of stars (planets, asteroids, comets). Indeed Terry, that's how they deduce a distant planet has a moon, the flipping reveals a position "wobble" of the planet caused by the gravitational pull of the moon. |
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Belgium 1934 Lion on Shield
Google "blink comparator".
Jay Carrigan change domain to mchsi www.jaypex.com In article , says... My wish list would include a small utility, that would take two scans and flip rapidly between the two repetatively. I'd use that for my Aus KG sideface. I currently use the wheel on my scroll mouse. |
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"Jay T. Carrigan" Google "blink comparator". Thanks Jay, I was browsing away, then it dawned... talk about blinded by the blinking obvious, I used my ACDSee image program set the delay to 90 milliseconds, selected the two stamps and hit "slide show" I had it all the time, and didn't realise. |
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Belgium 1934 Lion on Shield
Rodney, these stamps were printed by the Post Office Printing Works in Mechelen [Malines] in typography in printer's sheets of 4x100 probably. Unlike the postwar definitives there are hardly any different types of paper used - certainly no fluorescence as OBA [optical brightening agents] as that type of material turned up in the late 50-ies. I don't know of any specialist articles about them that go farther than describing the occasional printer's waste [perforations etc]. and that hasn't got anything to do with philately imho.... groetjes, Rein Op Wed, 20 Feb 2008 00:55:55 +0100 schreef rodney : "malcolm" 3. The raised leg on the lion has usually 3 short lines of marking on it. I have three copies where this appears to have been replaced by a single dot. This spot is in exactly the same place on each copy. Was this stamp redrawn/retouched during its very long period of use? Are my eyes deceiving me? or are there two printing processes employed with that series? My wish list would include a small utility, that would take two scans and flip rapidly between the two repetatively. I'd use that for my Aus KG sideface. I currently use the wheel on my scroll mouse. -- Gemaakt met Opera's revolutionaire e-mailprogramma: http://www.opera.com/mail/ |
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Belgium 1934 Lion on Shield
"Rein" these stamps were printed by the Post Office Printing Works in Mechelen [Malines] in typography in printer's sheets of 4x100 probably. Unlike the postwar definitives there are hardly any different types of paper used - certainly no fluorescence as OBA [optical brightening agents] as that type of material turned up in the late 50-ies. G'day Rein, apologies to Malcolm for butting in, I was trying to follow Malcolm's query, and to me, it looked like several issues were photolitho. Must be my scanner. |
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