Why are antique dealers so hesitant?

Let me clarify, I am a publisher of a well received newspaper called
The Garage Sale Weekender reporting on the second hand economy.

I have had resistance (not sure if this is the right term) from many
of the local antique stores/malls when asked if they would like to
advertise their in our FREE paper. I have heard from "It's not our
market" to "It's like telling our targeted client to go and purchase
on eBay"

For the life of me I am definetly confused when it comes to dealers.
Where do you get your merchandise, (not like it is not known when,
how, and where you purchase your merchandise) who supports your stores
overhead? (The second hand economy how else would you be able to call
your store a collectible or antique store?)

What I am getting at is why not promote your store in a low cost, well
written, professional paper that deals directly in "YOUR INDUSTRY"?
Our advertising rates are very competitive if not lower. Our
distribution covers 4-5 counties. and we are open to doing
advertorials for our customers.

When I first started this paper my business plan had Antique stores as
one of the major supporters of our paper, but it looks to be that I
was wrong. How can this be? Am I missing something here, am I out of
the loop on some underground knowledge amongst owners of
collectible/antique stores?

Please feel free to be candid. I am open to suggestion.
"LET'S GO SALE-ING!"
Henry

"Saler" wrote in message
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Let me clarify, I am a publisher of a well received newspaper called
The Garage Sale Weekender reporting on the second hand economy.

I have had resistance (not sure if this is the right term) from many
of the local antique stores/malls when asked if they would like to
advertise their in our FREE paper. I have heard from "It's not our
market" to "It's like telling our targeted client to go and purchase
on eBay"

Henry, "Garage Sale Weekender" sounds targeted to those who
BUY at garage sales, rather than from the dealers. I can
understand dealers not wanting to advertise there. What
they *are* doing, by supporting your paper, is buying from
those who advertise their garage sales/estate sales in your
issues.

Here, and in the midwest, there are some very good, free
"newspapers" that antique dealers advertise in....and when
we're travelling, that's the first thing we pick up in an
area. These papers have area maps, small free ads for
every dealer, larger paid ads for auctions and shops, and
get great circulation.

I think you need two separate publications.

Kris

"Kris Baker" wrote in message .com...
"Saler" wrote in message
om...
Let me clarify, I am a publisher of a well received newspaper called
The Garage Sale Weekender reporting on the second hand economy.

I have had resistance (not sure if this is the right term) from many
of the local antique stores/malls when asked if they would like to
advertise their in our FREE paper. I have heard from "It's not our
market" to "It's like telling our targeted client to go and purchase
on eBay"

Henry, "Garage Sale Weekender" sounds targeted to those who
BUY at garage sales, rather than from the dealers. I can
understand dealers not wanting to advertise there. What
they *are* doing, by supporting your paper, is buying from
those who advertise their garage sales/estate sales in your
issues.

Here, and in the midwest, there are some very good, free
"newspapers" that antique dealers advertise in....and when
we're travelling, that's the first thing we pick up in an
area. These papers have area maps, small free ads for
every dealer, larger paid ads for auctions and shops, and
get great circulation.

I think you need two separate publications.

Kris


Kris,
Thank you for your honesty. But, I am pretty sure you have heard the
old saying of "Never judge a book by its cover". And that is what alot
of advertisers are doing until they understand what the paper is all
about. We are not another free publication like the Pennysaver or the
Thrifty, we are a paper that reports on the second hand economy - a
multibillion dollar economy an economy that antique dealers and of the
sort feed like a growing monster. Sure we look for people to advertise
their garage sales and stores to keep the pub free for bargain hunters
like you can pick it up when they come across it. It is a paper that
relates to shoppers and owners of the second hand market. It brings
buyers and sellers together uniting The Garage Sale community to the
second hand economy. If this post didn't relate or peak someones
interest then how is it that I have gotten 7 replies within the 1st 4
hours? I am relating to someones interests, hence the replies right?
The Garage Sale Weekender has been well received here in Northeast
Florida and has had inquiries from CA and Michagan to start our humble
lil paper called "The Garage Sale Weekender".

Sorry if I have rambled on but I am very passionate about the paper
and am only looking for ways to better improve upon it.

Thanks Again for the post.
Henry

(Saler) wrote in message . com...

Kris,
Thank you for your honesty. But, I am pretty sure you have heard the
old saying of "Never judge a book by its cover".

Like many old sayings, it's useless advice in any operational sense.
What should you judge a book by, especially since you don't have time
to read every book.

And that is what alot
of advertisers are doing ...

Then the answer is staring you in the face - change the cover.

On 29 Oct 2003 06:40:27 -0800, (Saler) wrote:


When I first started this paper my business plan had Antique stores as
one of the major supporters of our paper, but it looks to be that I
was wrong. How can this be? Am I missing something here, am I out of
the loop on some underground knowledge amongst owners of
collectible/antique stores?

Please feel free to be candid. I am open to suggestion.
"LET'S GO SALE-ING!"
Henry


It sounds like your business might be based on a flawed business plan,
from your description.

Bob Ward wrote in message . ..
On 29 Oct 2003 06:40:27 -0800, (Saler) wrote:


When I first started this paper my business plan had Antique stores as
one of the major supporters of our paper, but it looks to be that I
was wrong. How can this be? Am I missing something here, am I out of
the loop on some underground knowledge amongst owners of
collectible/antique stores?

Please feel free to be candid. I am open to suggestion.
"LET'S GO SALE-ING!"
Henry


It sounds like your business might be based on a flawed business plan,
from your description.

Could you explain how my business plan is flawed? I mentioned that it
HAD antique stores as ONE of the major supporter but never said that
it was the only one. How would you suggest I improve upon it?

Although you never mentioned that it was a bad idea neither. :-)

I especially look forward to hearing back from you,
Henry
The Garage Sale Weekender.

On 29 Oct 2003 18:22:10 -0800, (Saler) wrote:

Bob Ward wrote in message . ..
On 29 Oct 2003 06:40:27 -0800, (Saler) wrote:


When I first started this paper my business plan had Antique stores as
one of the major supporters of our paper, but it looks to be that I
was wrong. How can this be? Am I missing something here, am I out of
the loop on some underground knowledge amongst owners of
collectible/antique stores?

Please feel free to be candid. I am open to suggestion.
"LET'S GO SALE-ING!"
Henry


It sounds like your business might be based on a flawed business plan,
from your description.

Could you explain how my business plan is flawed? I mentioned that it
HAD antique stores as ONE of the major supporter but never said that
it was the only one. How would you suggest I improve upon it?

Although you never mentioned that it was a bad idea neither. :-)

I especially look forward to hearing back from you,
Henry
The Garage Sale Weekender.

It just sounds like the research, if any, wasn't sufficient to
correctly identify the major source of income.

Many successful entrepreneurs don't bother with a formal business plan
at all. If you're not looking for outside financing, it makes it a
lot easier to make midcourse corrections.

At any given time, I have as many as eight or ten income streams in
the works - some are successful, some aren't - but I prefer to juggle
a lot of interesting jobs to relying on one or two clients for the
majority of my income. Perhaps I'll never be filthy rich, but I have
my share of fun with what I do.

The best part about being self-employed? Last year I was "Employee of
the Month" twice!

Bob Ward wrote in message . ..
On 29 Oct 2003 18:22:10 -0800, (Saler) wrote:

Bob Ward wrote in message . ..
On 29 Oct 2003 06:40:27 -0800, (Saler) wrote:


When I first started this paper my business plan had Antique stores as
one of the major supporters of our paper, but it looks to be that I
was wrong. How can this be? Am I missing something here, am I out of
the loop on some underground knowledge amongst owners of
collectible/antique stores?

Please feel free to be candid. I am open to suggestion.
"LET'S GO SALE-ING!"
Henry


It sounds like your business might be based on a flawed business plan,
from your description.

Could you explain how my business plan is flawed? I mentioned that it
HAD antique stores as ONE of the major supporter but never said that
it was the only one. How would you suggest I improve upon it?

Although you never mentioned that it was a bad idea neither. :-)

I especially look forward to hearing back from you,
Henry
The Garage Sale Weekender.

It just sounds like the research, if any, wasn't sufficient to
correctly identify the major source of income.

Many successful entrepreneurs don't bother with a formal business plan
at all. If you're not looking for outside financing, it makes it a
lot easier to make midcourse corrections.

At any given time, I have as many as eight or ten income streams in
the works - some are successful, some aren't - but I prefer to juggle
a lot of interesting jobs to relying on one or two clients for the
majority of my income. Perhaps I'll never be filthy rich, but I have
my share of fun with what I do.

The best part about being self-employed? Last year I was "Employee of
the Month" twice!

BOB W,
Well there was quite a few years of research but in different markets
(cities) thinking that they would all be the same, there is where I
went wrong by assuming.
LOL I never said it was formal nor written in stone. But what it does
do is give us a guideline to where I should be and other basic
business practices of helping move forward. Like I said I am always
looking for suggestions (hence my posts) and if some ideas are worth
changing my business plan so be it, for the better of the company.
(Except a name change at least not this early in the ball game)
Good point Bob, I too juggle but not as many as you. Have you read:
"The One Minute Millionaire"? It talks of this practice and how you
are not going to get rich on one idea in these days and age. So I
whole heartily believe in what you say.
I guess with something being so new and never been done before people
are hesitant can I blame them? I know I would be, but on a positive
note I am getting warm welcomes, open arms if you will, to having my
paper displayed in their stores. Not just antique dealers but many of
the sort.
As for being Employee of the Month" that is impressive! My boss is so
hard on me I haven't even gotten paid, he's so bold to even ask for
money! I know my time will come it just takes time and patients and
ALOT of juggling.

Thanks for your post Bob! I enjoy your feedback.
Henry

Saler wrote:

Let me clarify, I am a publisher of a well received newspaper called
The Garage Sale Weekender reporting on the second hand economy.

I have had resistance (not sure if this is the right term) from many
of the local antique stores/malls when asked if they would like to
advertise their in our FREE paper. I have heard from "It's not our
market" to "It's like telling our targeted client to go and purchase
on eBay"

snip

Please feel free to be candid. I am open to suggestion.
"LET'S GO SALE-ING!"
Henry

Not an antiques dealer but certainly haunt the shops/galleries and talk
to the proprietors a lot.
Real antiques can be quite expensive to obtain; at least those with any
valid provenance. Consequently they are expensive to buy at retail.

The dealers you talked to probably don't wish to lower their 'tone'. It
works for them to advertise the most to people who have the money to buy
what they are offering.

After all the poshest jeweller locally never advertises in the 'Thrifty
Nickle' or 'Pennysaver'. No need to do so and no desire to change the
image.

Arri London wrote in message ...
Saler wrote:

Let me clarify, I am a publisher of a well received newspaper called
The Garage Sale Weekender reporting on the second hand economy.

I have had resistance (not sure if this is the right term) from many
of the local antique stores/malls when asked if they would like to
advertise their in our FREE paper. I have heard from "It's not our
market" to "It's like telling our targeted client to go and purchase
on eBay"

snip

Please feel free to be candid. I am open to suggestion.
"LET'S GO SALE-ING!"
Henry

Not an antiques dealer but certainly haunt the shops/galleries and talk
to the proprietors a lot.
Real antiques can be quite expensive to obtain; at least those with any
valid provenance. Consequently they are expensive to buy at retail.

The dealers you talked to probably don't wish to lower their 'tone'. It
works for them to advertise the most to people who have the money to buy
what they are offering.

After all the poshest jeweller locally never advertises in the 'Thrifty
Nickle' or 'Pennysaver'. No need to do so and no desire to change the
image.

Thank you for your reply it is much appreciated.

I somehow beg to differ, we have a local rolex dealer that advertises
in the smallest of local community papers. Why he is advertsing that
he buys coins and rolexes. And after being in his shop I have a
feeling he is not hurting for money.

Advertising is a communication tool to let buyers and sellers know
about your store and what it has to offer.

Thanks again for your reply to my post.
Henry
The Garage Sale Weekender