Machine stamp questions

"Blair (TC)" wrote in message
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On Feb 11, 7:28 pm, "phantomm_1" wrote:


Did Pitney Bowes have anything to do with Coal Mining equipment?

Barry


No. They invented the postage meter.

http://www.pitneyworks.com/timeline/index.html

Blair

Yea, I know, There is a similar named company that has ties to the Coal
Mining Industry.
My Mistake.

"Blair (TC)" wrote in message
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On Feb 11, 5:14 pm, "rodney" pookiethai@NOSPAM iprimus.com.au wrote:
"phantomm_1"

Rodney,
In the 2 examples I posted, there are no date and time.
Are these not suppose to have date and time?

Not the pre printed permits, used for
bulkhttp://cjoint.com/data/cmaiTeIIHN.htm

but the Pitney Bowes, you are quite right, and frankly I have no idea,
(now I am interested

This is why Newsgroups exist, we all learn

I'll snitch your scan and go looking on the web.
good observation.
rodney


Barry / Rodney

The Pitney Bowes meter identifies the section
of the Postal Legislation and Regulations that
applies to that particular sending.
(ie section 562)

(The section phrases used we
1 - (Sec. 435 1/2 P.L. & R.) 5 - (39 C.F.R., 34.65(e)
2 - (Sec. 562 P.L. & R.) 6 - (39 C.F.R., 34.66)
3 - (Sec. 34.66 P.L. & R.) 7 - (Non-Profit Organization)
4 - (Sec. 34.65(3) P.L. & R.) 8 - (Bulk Rate)

The same notations are seen as part of
precancels on postal stationery envelopes.
http://www.precancels.com/envelopes/id_envs.htm

So, it could be said that this was a pre-cancelled meter franking.
(my words)

Blair

Much thanks for that info.
Barry

Outstanding research Blair,
thank you very much.
That's a first for me.

"Blair (TC)"
Barry / Rodney

The Pitney Bowes meter identifies the section
of the Postal Legislation and Regulations that
applies to that particular sending.
(ie section 562)

(The section phrases used we
1 - (Sec. 435 1/2 P.L. & R.) 5 - (39 C.F.R., 34.65(e)
2 - (Sec. 562 P.L. & R.) 6 - (39 C.F.R., 34.66)
3 - (Sec. 34.66 P.L. & R.) 7 - (Non-Profit Organization)
4 - (Sec. 34.65(3) P.L. & R.) 8 - (Bulk Rate)

The same notations are seen as part of
precancels on postal stationery envelopes.
http://www.precancels.com/envelopes/id_envs.htm

So, it could be said that this was a pre-cancelled meter franking.
(my words)

Blair

"rodney" pookiethai@NOSPAM iprimus.com.au wrote in message
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Outstanding research Blair,
thank you very much.
That's a first for me.

"Blair (TC)"
Barry / Rodney

The Pitney Bowes meter identifies the section
of the Postal Legislation and Regulations that
applies to that particular sending.
(ie section 562)

(The section phrases used we
1 - (Sec. 435 1/2 P.L. & R.) 5 - (39 C.F.R., 34.65(e)
2 - (Sec. 562 P.L. & R.) 6 - (39 C.F.R., 34.66)
3 - (Sec. 34.66 P.L. & R.) 7 - (Non-Profit Organization)
4 - (Sec. 34.65(3) P.L. & R.) 8 - (Bulk Rate)

The same notations are seen as part of
precancels on postal stationery envelopes.
http://www.precancels.com/envelopes/id_envs.htm

So, it could be said that this was a pre-cancelled meter franking.
(my words)

Blair

For the record, in case anyone is confused, those 2 examples did come from
envelopes.
Also, many thanks for all the help with the info and etc.
I have 1 or 2 more similar machine stamps that I'll post next message,
since there's been alot of research done on this.
Barry

Here is one other if anyone wants to look at it.

http://cjoint.com/?cnblPNlkjw

Barry
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"rodney" pookiethai@NOSPAM iprimus.com.au wrote in message
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Outstanding research Blair,
thank you very much.
That's a first for me.

"Blair (TC)"
Barry / Rodney

The Pitney Bowes meter identifies the section
of the Postal Legislation and Regulations that
applies to that particular sending.
(ie section 562)

(The section phrases used we
1 - (Sec. 435 1/2 P.L. & R.) 5 - (39 C.F.R., 34.65(e)
2 - (Sec. 562 P.L. & R.) 6 - (39 C.F.R., 34.66)
3 - (Sec. 34.66 P.L. & R.) 7 - (Non-Profit Organization)
4 - (Sec. 34.65(3) P.L. & R.) 8 - (Bulk Rate)

The same notations are seen as part of
precancels on postal stationery envelopes.
http://www.precancels.com/envelopes/id_envs.htm

So, it could be said that this was a pre-cancelled meter franking.
(my words)

Blair

Looks very similar to a US "D" meter
http://cjoint.com/data/cnddIJXI3A.htm
rodney



"phantomm_1"
Here is one other if anyone wants to look at it.

http://cjoint.com/?cnblPNlkjw

Barry

Tony Vella a écrit :
Hello Rodney.

The mention of Pitney Bowes brought to mind a "discussion" Pierre
Courtiade and I had about the various models that we had used when
we were still working; Pierre at his Embassy and I at both my full
time office in the Cdn. Fed. Gov. and at the Embassy where I was
part-timing at the time - two different models. I can't remember how
long ago that was (I don't keep copies of NG messages) and I don't
even remember whether it was on this NG or on the French one. But I
do recall quite a bit of detail bandied back and forth. Some help,
eh? Well, if Pierre is around he can probably remember; being so
much younger his memory is a lot better than mine.


Hello Tony,

It was in october 2007 :
http://groups.google.fr/group/rec.co...+author:vella#


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All the best,
Pierre Courtiade

to answer me, please replace NOSPAM by my family name

"Pierre COURTIADE" wrote in message
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Tony Vella a écrit :
Hello Rodney.

The mention of Pitney Bowes brought to mind a "discussion" Pierre
Courtiade and I had about the various models that we had used when
we were still working; Pierre at his Embassy and I at both my full
time office in the Cdn. Fed. Gov. and at the Embassy where I was
part-timing at the time - two different models. I can't remember how
long ago that was (I don't keep copies of NG messages) and I don't
even remember whether it was on this NG or on the French one. But I
do recall quite a bit of detail bandied back and forth. Some help,
eh? Well, if Pierre is around he can probably remember; being so
much younger his memory is a lot better than mine.


Hello Tony,

It was in october 2007 :
http://groups.google.fr/group/rec.co...+author:vella#


Oui, Pierre, that is indeed the conversation I was thinking about. I never
seem to have much luck searching Google for messages in groups. I never
have problems with any other searches in Google; just groups. I must be
doing something wrong. Thanks again.

As part of the conversation I recall reading about the early days when the
franking was set and one had to 'punch' the envelope any number of times to
make up the required rate, but I have never seen an example. Or maybe I did
and forgot about it. For as far back as I can remember, I have always had
amnesia.

Cheers.
Tony Vella
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada