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GM's disaster CEO, Roger Smith, finally kicked bucket
On Dec 11, 7:20 am, "trippin-2-8-trak" wrote:
Saturn was and is a damn good car. I had 2 of them, both 1991's- 4 door sedans, with the DOHC 4-cyl, one was a stick 5 speed, the other an automatic- and both were fully loaded with the SL2 package both ran past 220,000 miles on the clock, and when I sold/traded them, they were still running This sounds like someone living in public housing, having to drive a car that long because they cannot afford to get a new vehicle. now I have an '02 wagon, which has more headroom and interior space/comfort than the original '91's- More perv room. The Saturn wagon is the second favorite vehicle of perverts and other dregs of society, right after the Grand Prix GTP. saying Saturn stold the plastic body from Pontiac, is STUPID- both Saturn and Pontiac are GM's from the same company, that's sharing a good idea, not stealing it. Who can bitch a rust-free body ? When I got rid of the 91's both still had perfect bodies on them. Which is more than can be said of your Fireturd. you sound like a dumb ass to me You sound like a bitter fat man who couldn't afford the real deal and had to settle for GM's pseudo-japanese offerings. |
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GM's disaster CEO, Roger Smith, finally kicked bucket
oops, my apologies WWW- the "dumb ass" comment was not meant for you
"William W Western" wrote in message news:%bh7j.105$Mw6.10@pd7urf2no... Saturn's designs were mediocre at best (the plastic skin idea was robbed from Pontiac, Let's hear it for the Fiero. Though plagued by other GM short-sighted moves, still rust proof after all these years. The body anyhow. I guess the days of the plastic body skins is over? From what I hear Saturn has switched to mostly steel. The 'Vette is some sort of moulded business as opposed to panels tacked on a skeleton I think. Wow, December has been bitterly cold up here. Much like the winters of the late 70s. Even the Birkenstock crowd is jonesin' for some Climate Change (the ChickenLittle caper formerly known as Global Warming). |
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GM's disaster CEO, Roger Smith, finally kicked bucket
oops, my apologies WWW- the "dumb ass" comment was not meant for you
Mmmm, I actually thought you had written "numb ass" which I could not argue with given the frigid December we have been handed. |
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GM's disaster CEO, Roger Smith, finally kicked bucket
On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 01:43:30 GMT, "William W Western"
wrote: oops, my apologies WWW- the "dumb ass" comment was not meant for you Mmmm, I actually thought you had written "numb ass" which I could not argue with given the frigid December we have been handed. snip Well, Noodles has trouble figuring out who's going to get him first, so he's liable to make lots of mistakes. Frigid up there, eh? Perhaps your heat erred down this way, as we've had the warmest November on record, as well as above normal temps in December. I still have blossoms on my chrysanthmums...unheard of...ever. |
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GM's disaster CEO, Roger Smith, finally kicked bucket
perhaps an alternate heating source would help ?
wood, or coal ? (chuckle...) "William W Western" wrote in message news:6dl8j.1862$_r2.35@pd7urf1no... oops, my apologies WWW- the "dumb ass" comment was not meant for you Mmmm, I actually thought you had written "numb ass" which I could not argue with given the frigid December we have been handed. |
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GM's disaster CEO, Roger Smith, finally kicked bucket
"trippin-2-8-trak" wrote in message
... perhaps an alternate heating source would help ? wood, or coal ? I put up an extra cord of birch this year and have two cords of seasoned poplar stashed out in Elma just in case, so no worries. |
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GM's disaster CEO, Roger Smith, finally kicked bucket
good man- gotta have an alternate heating source these days !
burn a 40 lb. bucket of anthracite daily here, baseboard electric is shut off at the t-stat coal heats the place for only $3 a day "William W Western" wrote in message news:ZOS8j.1297$hQ3.157@pd7urf3no... "trippin-2-8-trak" wrote in message ... perhaps an alternate heating source would help ? wood, or coal ? I put up an extra cord of birch this year and have two cords of seasoned poplar stashed out in Elma just in case, so no worries. |
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GM's disaster CEO, Roger Smith, finally kicked bucket
On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 13:10:40 -0500, "trippin-2-8-trak"
wrote: good man- gotta have an alternate heating source these days ! burn a 40 lb. bucket of anthracite daily here, baseboard electric is shut off at the t-stat coal heats the place for only $3 a day snip What an ENERGY HOG! I heat my whole HOUSE for less than that with natural gas! Fireplace? You lose as much heat as you get from one of those things...it's for effect ONLY. You see, Noodles, back in 1978, California adopted the most stringent energy efficiency standards for home construction in the nation, which forced builders to use double pane windows throughout, R-48 attic insulation, insulated electric box outlets, the works. Now, it's really paying off handsomely. Credit Jerry Brown, our then-governor, now-attorney general (and future governor again) for that move. The builders spent millions to defeat that measure, and Brown steamrollered them. Now, the wisdom of that move is all too apparent when you compare my heat energy usage to that of the wasteful, stupid Charlie Nudo. Also, did you know that Californians use less water per capita than people in ANY other state? Same thing...LEGISLATION demanded it...and now, it's paying big dividends. Charlie Nudo..polluting the atmosphere while wasting energy with a flimsily built vacation shack on a daily basis. |
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GM's disaster CEO, Roger Smith, finally kicked bucket
coal heats the place for only $3 a day snip
What an ENERGY HOG! I heat my whole HOUSE for less than that with natural gas! Fireplace? You lose as much heat as you get from one of those things...it's for effect ONLY. Dunno about Trip but I burn my wood in a cast iron parlour stove. I have had the thing for 27 years and I doubt it cost me much more than $200 and about the same for the chimney at that time. It was certified air tight when I bought it, but that is a little shaky with a cast iron unit. Anyway without it I would suspect the cold 30 days that we just saw around these parts coupled with my old two story Victorian would run me $500 for natural gas. Plus the place would be chilly with the furnace cycling off and on. The wood is from my place 55 miles east of downtown Winnipeg and I bring back two cords at a time. I am out there anyway wandering about in the bush so the cost is negligible. My gas bill that arrived yesterday from Nov 10 - Dec 10 was still a whopping $148. Winnipeg has no inversions and little to no smog and the warm wood smoke hits the cold outside air and shoots up to the sky so no nuisance to anyone. Back in the 50s and beyond most of Winnipeg heated their homes with coal. It came/comes from the Saskatchewan side of the Man/Sask border. You would think the soot would have been everywhere but I do not recall it. I do remember when they delivered the coal though. A big truck arrived and parked in the back lane while four burly men filled burlap bags with coal from the truck put it over a shoulder and walked to the coal bin door and dumped it and went back for another. A different time in labour costs, eh? After they left a black coal dust trail bespoke their labour for several days till the snow covered it. |
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