FA: 1920 Lincoln Cent Gold Blazer PCGS MS-65RD PQ

The obverse is full MS-66 by current grading standards..a few small flyspecks
on rev. keep out of the $2000 price teritoty which is the going price for a
MS-66Rd of this date. This one starts at $249 with no reserve.

See it at:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=3918860 777

Thanks.


Ira Stein

On 27 Jun 2004 17:04:03 GMT, ospam (Ira Stein) is alleged to have
written:

The obverse is full MS-66 by current grading standards..a few small flyspecks
on rev. keep out of the $2000 price teritoty which is the going price for a
MS-66Rd of this date. This one starts at $249 with no reserve.

See it at:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=3918860 777

Thanks.


Ira Stein

Going by the photo, I'm surprised you're not trying for a crackout! That's a
real nice cent.

Bruce

Bruce Hickmott writes:

See it at:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=3918860 777

Thanks.


Ira Stein

Going by the photo, I'm surprised you're not trying for a crackout! That's a
real nice cent.



I don't like to play the crackout game. The grading companies are the winners
in those scenarios. I'd rtahre pay a PQ price to get a PQ coin and let someone
do it if he or she is so inclined. There are dealers that do this all the time,
don't do any retail biz to speak of, and earn upwards of $500,000/yr. Their hit
ratio is about 10% if they're good. And, that's enough to do it! Sometimes
they'll submit the same coin 10X over a 2 yr. period in their attempts at an
upgrade.

Still, my theory is that it's the SAME coin, it's just the plastic that will
garner the huge price! Somehow, it just doesn't seem right to me. I'm not
condemning folks who earn their livings that way. I did very well in the PCGS
grading contest for dealers, so I have little doubt I would earn big dollars if
I chose that path. I just don't choose to do it.

Color me stupid.



Ira Stein

On 28 Jun 2004 13:40:02 GMT, ospam (Ira Stein) is alleged to have
written:

Bruce Hickmott writes:

See it at:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=3918860 777

Thanks.


Ira Stein

Going by the photo, I'm surprised you're not trying for a crackout! That's a
real nice cent.



I don't like to play the crackout game. The grading companies are the winners
in those scenarios. I'd rtahre pay a PQ price to get a PQ coin and let someone
do it if he or she is so inclined. There are dealers that do this all the time,
don't do any retail biz to speak of, and earn upwards of $500,000/yr. Their hit
ratio is about 10% if they're good. And, that's enough to do it! Sometimes
they'll submit the same coin 10X over a 2 yr. period in their attempts at an
upgrade.


Yeah, I've met some of those. I wasn't putting you in the same category.

Still, my theory is that it's the SAME coin, it's just the plastic that will
garner the huge price! Somehow, it just doesn't seem right to me. I'm not
condemning folks who earn their livings that way. I did very well in the PCGS
grading contest for dealers, so I have little doubt I would earn big dollars if
I chose that path. I just don't choose to do it.


In this case, the coin looked undergraded to me as opposed to a high end 65. I
was more wondering what I was missing. I've seen coins with a few more dark
spots than that in PCGS 66 holders.

Color me stupid.


Oh, yeah. You're stupid. Only person in RCC who might believe that is you! :-)

Bruce (The toilet seat was a calculated risk, not stupidity)

Ira Stein wrote:

The obverse is full MS-66 by current grading standards..a few small flyspecks
on rev. keep out of the $2000 price teritoty which is the going price for a
MS-66Rd of this date. This one starts at $249 with no reserve.

See it at:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=3918860 777

Thanks.

Ira Stein

Greetings Mr. Stein
Yesterday was my anniversary. (Just wanted to remind you as I know
you forgot, being the busy man that you are.) Been married for 23
years, (though she is not living with me and I can not figure out
why, seeing how nice of a person i am) but for a nice anniversary
present, (knowing of you to be such a gentleman, how generous and
kind hearted you are) you could send me your auction number
3918326200..... It is not as nice as this coin OR any of your other
coins, and has no bids at this time. It is just that knowing what a
fine person you are Mr. Stein, *I DO NOT* want to see you, Mr.
Stein, get stuck with something you would like to get rid of. AS you
can tell, I am very easy to please..... OR you could call it an
early birthday present if you was so inclined to do so.
With every lasting admiration for you, Mr. Stein, I will bid you a
very good night Sir.
Roscoe

On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 18:42:14 -0500, Wheeler is
alleged to have written:

Ira Stein wrote:

The obverse is full MS-66 by current grading standards..a few small flyspecks
on rev. keep out of the $2000 price teritoty which is the going price for a
MS-66Rd of this date. This one starts at $249 with no reserve.

See it at:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=3918860 777

Thanks.

Ira Stein

Greetings Mr. Stein
Yesterday was my anniversary. (Just wanted to remind you as I know
you forgot, being the busy man that you are.) Been married for 23
years, (though she is not living with me and I can not figure out
why, seeing how nice of a person i am) but for a nice anniversary
present, (knowing of you to be such a gentleman, how generous and
kind hearted you are) you could send me your auction number
3918326200..... It is not as nice as this coin OR any of your other
coins, and has no bids at this time. It is just that knowing what a
fine person you are Mr. Stein, *I DO NOT* want to see you, Mr.
Stein, get stuck with something you would like to get rid of. AS you
can tell, I am very easy to please..... OR you could call it an
early birthday present if you was so inclined to do so.
With every lasting admiration for you, Mr. Stein, I will bid you a
very good night Sir.
Roscoe

I tried something like that on Ira once, too. He ignored me. Your's is a little
better written, a little more fawning, and has a really great closing. Maybe
you'll do better than I.

Bruce (If this works, watch me buttkiss for 3917726026)

Wheeler wrote:
Ira Stein wrote:

The obverse is full MS-66 by current grading standards..a few small flyspecks
on rev. keep out of the $2000 price teritoty which is the going price for a
MS-66Rd of this date. This one starts at $249 with no reserve.

See it at:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=3918860 777

Thanks.

Ira Stein


Greetings Mr. Stein
Yesterday was my anniversary. (Just wanted to remind you as I know
you forgot, being the busy man that you are.) Been married for 23
years, (though she is not living with me and I can not figure out
why, seeing how nice of a person i am) but for a nice anniversary
present, (knowing of you to be such a gentleman, how generous and
kind hearted you are) you could send me your auction number
3918326200..... It is not as nice as this coin OR any of your other
coins, and has no bids at this time. It is just that knowing what a
fine person you are Mr. Stein, *I DO NOT* want to see you, Mr.
Stein, get stuck with something you would like to get rid of. AS you
can tell, I am very easy to please..... OR you could call it an
early birthday present if you was so inclined to do so.
With every lasting admiration for you, Mr. Stein, I will bid you a
very good night Sir.
Roscoe

Rosco if the good Ira does not respond to your pleading why don't you download a copy of
his very good file and copy it at your local Kinkos and make believe. :-)



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In article , iras4
@aol.comnospam says...
Bruce Hickmott writes:

See it at:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=3918860 777

Thanks.


Ira Stein

Going by the photo, I'm surprised you're not trying for a crackout! That's a
real nice cent.



I don't like to play the crackout game. The grading companies are the winners
in those scenarios. I'd rtahre pay a PQ price to get a PQ coin and let someone
do it if he or she is so inclined. There are dealers that do this all the time,
don't do any retail biz to speak of, and earn upwards of $500,000/yr. Their hit
ratio is about 10% if they're good. And, that's enough to do it! Sometimes
they'll submit the same coin 10X over a 2 yr. period in their attempts at an
upgrade.

Still, my theory is that it's the SAME coin, it's just the plastic that will
garner the huge price! Somehow, it just doesn't seem right to me. I'm not
condemning folks who earn their livings that way. I did very well in the PCGS
grading contest for dealers, so I have little doubt I would earn big dollars if
I chose that path. I just don't choose to do it.

Color me stupid.



Ira Stein

That's a lot of money for a common date.
--
"Copper is as copper does."

Joecoin

Joe Schell writes:

That's a lot of money for a common date.
--
"Copper is as copper does."


It may be a common date, but it's in UNcommon condition! Most MS-65 Rds, in
fact, the vast majority of those graded MS-65R, don't approach this one in
color, luster, or eye-appeal. You can buy one in unc. for 1/4 of my price or
less if appearance doesn't matter.

In MS-66 Rd, they are rare, hence the $2000 price. Many dated 1919 are
available in MS66R but apparently very few of the ones dated 1920 were put away
in such absolutely pristine condition.

It's akin to pricing of diamonds..but you don't need a 10X jeweler's loupe to
see the difference. You can buy a one carat brilliant round stone for $800. It
will be filled with defects such as carbon, internal fractures and cloudy areas
and the color will be an unattractive yellowish hue. Or, you can buy a one
carat round brilliant stone with no internal flaws visible under 10X
magnification and color will be virtually pure white with no discernible color
cast. The latter gem will cost you $40,000.

The better one, at 50X the price, will do better price wise in the long haul
than the lesser one. One buys what one can afford, Joe.



Ira Stein

On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 07:24:52 -0400, Joe Schell is alleged
to have written:

In article , iras4
says...
Bruce Hickmott writes:

See it at:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=3918860 777

Thanks.


Ira Stein

Going by the photo, I'm surprised you're not trying for a crackout! That's a
real nice cent.



I don't like to play the crackout game. The grading companies are the winners
in those scenarios. I'd rtahre pay a PQ price to get a PQ coin and let someone
do it if he or she is so inclined. There are dealers that do this all the time,
don't do any retail biz to speak of, and earn upwards of $500,000/yr. Their hit
ratio is about 10% if they're good. And, that's enough to do it! Sometimes
they'll submit the same coin 10X over a 2 yr. period in their attempts at an
upgrade.

Still, my theory is that it's the SAME coin, it's just the plastic that will
garner the huge price! Somehow, it just doesn't seem right to me. I'm not
condemning folks who earn their livings that way. I did very well in the PCGS
grading contest for dealers, so I have little doubt I would earn big dollars if
I chose that path. I just don't choose to do it.

Color me stupid.



Ira Stein

That's a lot of money for a common date.

Yes, it is. But to quote a local coin dealer: "Just TRY to find a nicer one!".
If you're dealing with pop top or nearly so coins, there's a strong premium even
for common dates. And some of those common dates are bloody rare in high grade.
The registry set craze....

Bruce