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well said mr black. neither compnay uses forensic experts (like the fbi
does) and none of them are trained in forensic analysis except for james spence at psa dna...check out the webiste for autographs 101, they have a nice article on mr spence. but as he even states, some stuff can get by...so i am sure that no one is truly an expert... Mr Black wrote: Im trying to avoid the authentication debates on the board these days; but as a collector of sports graphs for 20 years, ofcourse i have heard of GAI.........BUT unless it is a signing that they themselves have held and are authenticating, i hold them in the same light as any other "3rd party" authenticator, regardless of reputation (see my earlier posts on psa dna).......questionable at best. MrB. "Harold Smith" wrote in message ... Frankly I'm surprised that veteran autograph collectors on an autograph newsgroup have never heard of Global (GAI). They're number two in the industry after PSA/DNA, and may even overtake PSA before long. The company was started three years ago by Stephen Rocci, who was the founder and president of PSA. Maybe he left for political reasons? "ag" wrote in message ups.com... A seller on ebay with the username cp1525 has a lot of great deals and a high rating. He also has a reliable way of certifiying the items with most coming with a COA from GLOBAL AUTHENTICATION. But how are these items so cheap? He has Pete Rose signed pics for 20 bucks... litho's for 200. Thoughts? this link should work: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQ...5QQsassZcp1525 if not, type is his username: cp1525 |
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Actually, that brings up a good point about being an expert. It was written
in an interview with Bob Hope once that his assistant had become so proficient in doing his signature that he couldn't tell his from the fake. :-) -- Mike Gummby3 ~~ Star Collector ~~ www.star-collector.net Celebrity addresses the way they should be - free. "barefoot" wrote in message ups.com... well said mr black. neither compnay uses forensic experts (like the fbi does) and none of them are trained in forensic analysis except for james spence at psa dna...check out the webiste for autographs 101, they have a nice article on mr spence. but as he even states, some stuff can get by...so i am sure that no one is truly an expert... ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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I have to admit that the use of vulgarities greatly improved the content of
your message. -- Mike Gummby3 ~~ Star Collector ~~ www.star-collector.net Celebrity addresses the way they should be - free. "Harold Smith" wrote in message ... "PSA DNA IS ENDORSED BY MLB BASEBALL Are you a teenager or something. Where the **** did you go to school?.....sheesh....LOL Do you have a link where MLB formally endorses PSA/DNA? MLB employs the Arthur Andersen accounting firm to authenticate all of its formal signing sessions. Also, I would wager that GAI is doing more business and authenticating more items than PSA/DNA at this point in time. Especially since they even authenticate unopened wax packs and other items that PSA doesn't. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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this is very true....
Anyone ever get the bob hope golf photo signed via mail? it is VERY likely this was signed by his assistant; now compare it to an in-person Hope graph. its pretty bloody good. MrB "Gummby3" wrote in message ... Actually, that brings up a good point about being an expert. It was written in an interview with Bob Hope once that his assistant had become so proficient in doing his signature that he couldn't tell his from the fake. :-) -- Mike Gummby3 ~~ Star Collector ~~ www.star-collector.net Celebrity addresses the way they should be - free. "barefoot" wrote in message ups.com... well said mr black. neither compnay uses forensic experts (like the fbi does) and none of them are trained in forensic analysis except for james spence at psa dna...check out the webiste for autographs 101, they have a nice article on mr spence. but as he even states, some stuff can get by...so i am sure that no one is truly an expert... ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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Frankly I'm suprised that someone who has obviously been lurking our NG
would make themselves known with such a condescending post towards the members MrB Frankly I'm surprised that veteran autograph collectors on an autograph newsgroup have never heard of Global (GAI). They're number two in the industry after PSA/DNA, and may even overtake PSA before long. The company was started three years ago by Stephen Rocci, who was the founder and president of PSA. Maybe he left for political reasons? "ag" wrote in message ups.com... A seller on ebay with the username cp1525 has a lot of great deals and a high rating. He also has a reliable way of certifiying the items with most coming with a COA from GLOBAL AUTHENTICATION. But how are these items so cheap? He has Pete Rose signed pics for 20 bucks... litho's for 200. Thoughts? this link should work: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQ...5QQsassZcp1525 if not, type is his username: cp1525 |
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Isn't there some sort of moderation on here for foul language?
Truthfully, your posts will be respected and listened to more without the cursing. You're use of the word also denotes such empaticness that I wonder if you are part of the company in question? The stuff you mention doesn't have to with authenticating after the fact in question. That is NOT what MLB is endorsing; as you said it's just the signings and probably authenticating/signing COA's at said signings. I sincerely doubt MLB or NFL would endorse a company where they authenticate people's items independently. If that were the case, they'd lose credibility themselves and risk liability? Maybe not, but they open themselve up for stuff they don't need for such a penny-anny buisness;. possible lawsuits and other problems aren't worth it. I'm just guessing here, but it's my guess they are only using them for that ONE service.... so before people get all bent out of shape and start going off one way or another, why not contact MLB and find out the true scoop? See if they are standing by PSA...because if they are, all those here who had stuff authenticated that was crap can try to complain to MLB about it! On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:36:45 -0800, "Harold Smith" wrote: "PSA DNA IS ENDORSED BY MLB BASEBALL Are you a teenager or something. Where the **** did you go to school?.....sheesh....LOL Do you have a link where MLB formally endorses PSA/DNA? MLB employs the Arthur Andersen accounting firm to authenticate all of its formal signing sessions. Also, I would wager that GAI is doing more business and authenticating more items than PSA/DNA at this point in time. Especially since they even authenticate unopened wax packs and other items that PSA doesn't. "barefoot" wrote in message roups.com... dude, harold "smith" what are you talking about...GAI is nowhere near the authentication service of psa dna- and will NEVER overtake them...here's the main reason "PSA DNA IS ENDORSED BY MLB BASEBALL AND NFL FOOTBALL." so much so that they both use PSA DNA certifications when you buy a signature through them..there's only 4 major sports and 2 of them endorse PSA DNA and one of the major sports doesn't even exist... oh yeah, and one of the main authenticators for GAI sells autographs on his own but now uses GAI certificates...that's some kind of conflict of interest, what's to stop the guy from selling bad stuff and just slapping a cert. on it. no offense, but this is about the DUMBEST comment i've seen on here reguarding a professional business...MOST people have NEVER heard of GAI. Just you and a handful of others... in reguards to the autographs asked about on this page... Most seem legit. i worry about the clemens- but most of these people that are on this guy's page are people that do shows and do private signings with the show promoters for FAR CHEAPER than the advertised show autographed price...sp i would say there's almost no problem dealing with this guy...My biggest suspect is GAI authentication service...Their about as big as "MIKE"S BAR AND GRILL AUTHENTICATION SERVICE" and in no way serves as proof of a signatures authenticity.. Harold Smith wrote: Frankly I'm surprised that veteran autograph collectors on an autograph newsgroup have never heard of Global (GAI). They're number two in the industry after PSA/DNA, and may even overtake PSA before long. The company was started three years ago by Stephen Rocci, who was the founder and president of PSA. Maybe he left for political reasons? "ag" wrote in message ups.com... A seller on ebay with the username cp1525 has a lot of great deals and a high rating. He also has a reliable way of certifiying the items with most coming with a COA from GLOBAL AUTHENTICATION. But how are these items so cheap? He has Pete Rose signed pics for 20 bucks... litho's for 200. Thoughts? this link should work: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQ...5QQsassZcp1525 if not, type is his username: cp1525 |
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"PSA DNA IS ENDORSED BY MLB BASEBALL
Are you a teenager or something. Where the **** did you go to school?.....sheesh....LOL Do you have a link where MLB formally endorses PSA/DNA? MLB employs the Arthur Andersen accounting firm to authenticate all of its formal signing sessions. Also, I would wager that GAI is doing more business and authenticating more items than PSA/DNA at this point in time. Especially since they even authenticate unopened wax packs and other items that PSA doesn't. "barefoot" wrote in message oups.com... dude, harold "smith" what are you talking about...GAI is nowhere near the authentication service of psa dna- and will NEVER overtake them...here's the main reason "PSA DNA IS ENDORSED BY MLB BASEBALL AND NFL FOOTBALL." so much so that they both use PSA DNA certifications when you buy a signature through them..there's only 4 major sports and 2 of them endorse PSA DNA and one of the major sports doesn't even exist... oh yeah, and one of the main authenticators for GAI sells autographs on his own but now uses GAI certificates...that's some kind of conflict of interest, what's to stop the guy from selling bad stuff and just slapping a cert. on it. no offense, but this is about the DUMBEST comment i've seen on here reguarding a professional business...MOST people have NEVER heard of GAI. Just you and a handful of others... in reguards to the autographs asked about on this page... Most seem legit. i worry about the clemens- but most of these people that are on this guy's page are people that do shows and do private signings with the show promoters for FAR CHEAPER than the advertised show autographed price...sp i would say there's almost no problem dealing with this guy...My biggest suspect is GAI authentication service...Their about as big as "MIKE"S BAR AND GRILL AUTHENTICATION SERVICE" and in no way serves as proof of a signatures authenticity.. Harold Smith wrote: Frankly I'm surprised that veteran autograph collectors on an autograph newsgroup have never heard of Global (GAI). They're number two in the industry after PSA/DNA, and may even overtake PSA before long. The company was started three years ago by Stephen Rocci, who was the founder and president of PSA. Maybe he left for political reasons? "ag" wrote in message ups.com... A seller on ebay with the username cp1525 has a lot of great deals and a high rating. He also has a reliable way of certifiying the items with most coming with a COA from GLOBAL AUTHENTICATION. But how are these items so cheap? He has Pete Rose signed pics for 20 bucks... litho's for 200. Thoughts? this link should work: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQ...5QQsassZcp1525 if not, type is his username: cp1525 |
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none of them are trained in forensic analysis except for james spence at
psa dna Yeah, he took a mail order course on it. Didn't he accidentally authenticate a Christy Mathewson ball that ended up being a fake? It was in one of the old Mastro auctions with a minimum bid of $26,000 "barefoot" wrote in message ups.com... well said mr black. neither compnay uses forensic experts (like the fbi does) and none of them are trained in forensic analysis except for james spence at psa dna...check out the webiste for autographs 101, they have a nice article on mr spence. but as he even states, some stuff can get by...so i am sure that no one is truly an expert... Mr Black wrote: Im trying to avoid the authentication debates on the board these days; but as a collector of sports graphs for 20 years, ofcourse i have heard of GAI.........BUT unless it is a signing that they themselves have held and are authenticating, i hold them in the same light as any other "3rd party" authenticator, regardless of reputation (see my earlier posts on psa dna).......questionable at best. MrB. "Harold Smith" wrote in message ... Frankly I'm surprised that veteran autograph collectors on an autograph newsgroup have never heard of Global (GAI). They're number two in the industry after PSA/DNA, and may even overtake PSA before long. The company was started three years ago by Stephen Rocci, who was the founder and president of PSA. Maybe he left for political reasons? "ag" wrote in message ups.com... A seller on ebay with the username cp1525 has a lot of great deals and a high rating. He also has a reliable way of certifiying the items with most coming with a COA from GLOBAL AUTHENTICATION. But how are these items so cheap? He has Pete Rose signed pics for 20 bucks... litho's for 200. Thoughts? this link should work: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQ...5QQsassZcp1525 if not, type is his username: cp1525 |
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actually, psa is now using Deloitte & Touche whom i have no idea who
they are...but they state it in several of their autograph and game used items..so they are not using arthur anderson like you are claiming...and if you look on NFL.com's website and look up autograph auctions that they are CONSTANTLY holding...EVERYTHING is documented by psa/dna...here's an example being held by BEARS AUCTIONS- which is one of many charity links that are supported by NFL.com- http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=5178511651 and in fact, they are not using anyone else as far as all the other auctions i have looked up...and last year when i was doign the same thing through major league baseball, all their autograph items were being authenticated by psa dna...so apparently, you are just stupid...cause you have NONE of your fact straight...hello- it's PSA- they are grading cards too dingleberry...in fact THEY ARE THE END ALL BE ALL OF CARD GRADING...there is no substitute, there are MANY copycats, but none of them are anywhere near the scale of PSA...apparently you work for or know someone who works at GAI and you are welcome to your opinion, but please, back it up with SOME facts. GAI is rubbish copycat hacks who brings in crappy autograph collectors and lets them tell you whether YOUR autographs look like theirs, and they call it authenticating...goods luck getting anyone to belive it...i think i could get some friends together and call it MOM AND POP'S AUTHENTICATIONS and i'd be doing better business than GAI. Harold Smith wrote: "PSA DNA IS ENDORSED BY MLB BASEBALL Are you a teenager or something. Where the **** did you go to school?.....sheesh....LOL Do you have a link where MLB formally endorses PSA/DNA? MLB employs the Arthur Andersen accounting firm to authenticate all of its formal signing sessions. Also, I would wager that GAI is doing more business and authenticating more items than PSA/DNA at this point in time. Especially since they even authenticate unopened wax packs and other items that PSA doesn't. "barefoot" wrote in message oups.com... dude, harold "smith" what are you talking about...GAI is nowhere near the authentication service of psa dna- and will NEVER overtake them...here's the main reason "PSA DNA IS ENDORSED BY MLB BASEBALL AND NFL FOOTBALL." so much so that they both use PSA DNA certifications when you buy a signature through them..there's only 4 major sports and 2 of them endorse PSA DNA and one of the major sports doesn't even exist... oh yeah, and one of the main authenticators for GAI sells autographs on his own but now uses GAI certificates...that's some kind of conflict of interest, what's to stop the guy from selling bad stuff and just slapping a cert. on it. no offense, but this is about the DUMBEST comment i've seen on here reguarding a professional business...MOST people have NEVER heard of GAI. Just you and a handful of others... in reguards to the autographs asked about on this page... Most seem legit. i worry about the clemens- but most of these people that are on this guy's page are people that do shows and do private signings with the show promoters for FAR CHEAPER than the advertised show autographed price...sp i would say there's almost no problem dealing with this guy...My biggest suspect is GAI authentication service...Their about as big as "MIKE"S BAR AND GRILL AUTHENTICATION SERVICE" and in no way serves as proof of a signatures authenticity.. Harold Smith wrote: Frankly I'm surprised that veteran autograph collectors on an autograph newsgroup have never heard of Global (GAI). They're number two in the industry after PSA/DNA, and may even overtake PSA before long. The company was started three years ago by Stephen Rocci, who was the founder and president of PSA. Maybe he left for political reasons? "ag" wrote in message ups.com... A seller on ebay with the username cp1525 has a lot of great deals and a high rating. He also has a reliable way of certifiying the items with most coming with a COA from GLOBAL AUTHENTICATION. But how are these items so cheap? He has Pete Rose signed pics for 20 bucks... litho's for 200. Thoughts? this link should work: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQ...5QQsassZcp1525 if not, type is his username: cp1525 |
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in fact...here's a link to ALL nfl auction items...not the ones for
specific teams...but for NFL's auctions... http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQ...nflQ2dauctions so there's my proof...please tell me how I'M the stupid teenager...MORON. |
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