Fake pound coins!

At first I though it was an epidemic, than after a few weeks I just
realized I have a talent for spotting them, I did actually used to
think that all fake pound coins were lead, but obviously they are not.
I tend to have arguments with people about the coins, I can have in the
past given someone a coin and they cant see what's wrong with it so I
give them a real one, same year same tail, and they still cant tell the
difference, even thought to me its obvious.

Even to me some are hard to spot, but I often do, some look like the
edges have been engraved by small children, and really stand out!

Since finding this talent I have taken to organizing the pound coins in
my till when it is quite, so I spot fakes, it sound obsessive but I
have a very boring weekend job at ASDA, I find most come from the bags
of change which makes me think that maybe there are insides working for
the change company putting them in there, but I doubt it.
Whether or not the company knows that there is fake currency in there
bags, I think they are still committing an offence, as is any one who
gives it to a customer in there change, and any one who try's to
spend one.
I have in the past found 7 in a day.
I either put black crosses on them in permanent marker or put them in a
bag market counterfeit.

Of course the ability does mean I am often turning down pounds coins
because I know them to be fake.

Oh and yes, I can tell the difference between a worn old coin and fake.
Dunno why we still use so many £1 coins still anyway, they should be
minting more £2 coins by now, would have thought that would be cheaper
to do anyway! Working on a till you realize things like when you have
£2 coins you never need give out more than one £1 coin in one go,
also handy when there are no £5 notes.

I am such a geek LOL

wrote:
At first I though it was an epidemic, than after a few weeks I just
realized I have a talent for spotting them, I did actually used to
think that all fake pound coins were lead, but obviously they are not.
I tend to have arguments with people about the coins, I can have in the
past given someone a coin and they cant see what's wrong with it so I
give them a real one, same year same tail, and they still cant tell the
difference, even thought to me its obvious.

Even to me some are hard to spot, but I often do, some look like the
edges have been engraved by small children, and really stand out!

Since finding this talent I have taken to organizing the pound coins in
my till when it is quite, so I spot fakes, it sound obsessive but I
have a very boring weekend job at ASDA, I find most come from the bags
of change which makes me think that maybe there are insides working for
the change company putting them in there, but I doubt it.
Whether or not the company knows that there is fake currency in there
bags, I think they are still committing an offence, as is any one who
gives it to a customer in there change, and any one who try's to
spend one.
I have in the past found 7 in a day.
I either put black crosses on them in permanent marker or put them in a
bag market counterfeit.

Of course the ability does mean I am often turning down pounds coins
because I know them to be fake.

Oh and yes, I can tell the difference between a worn old coin and fake.
Dunno why we still use so many £1 coins still anyway, they should be
minting more £2 coins by now, would have thought that would be cheaper
to do anyway! Working on a till you realize things like when you have
£2 coins you never need give out more than one £1 coin in one go,
also handy when there are no £5 notes.

I am such a geek LOL

Hey, if it helps pass the time and you're getting paid to do it, then I
wouldn't knock it. ;-)

You mention a `change company'? Does ASDA get its bags of change from
somewhere other than a bank?

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At first I though it was an epidemic, than after a few weeks I just
realized I have a talent for spotting them, I did actually used to
think that all fake pound coins were lead, but obviously they are not.
I tend to have arguments with people about the coins, I can have in the
past given someone a coin and they cant see what's wrong with it so I
give them a real one, same year same tail, and they still cant tell the
difference, even thought to me its obvious.

Even to me some are hard to spot, but I often do, some look like the
edges have been engraved by small children, and really stand out!

Since finding this talent I have taken to organizing the pound coins in
my till when it is quite, so I spot fakes, it sound obsessive but I
have a very boring weekend job at ASDA, I find most come from the bags
of change which makes me think that maybe there are insides working for
the change company putting them in there, but I doubt it.
Whether or not the company knows that there is fake currency in there
bags, I think they are still committing an offence, as is any one who
gives it to a customer in there change, and any one who try's to
spend one.
I have in the past found 7 in a day.
I either put black crosses on them in permanent marker or put them in a
bag market counterfeit.

Of course the ability does mean I am often turning down pounds coins
because I know them to be fake.

Oh and yes, I can tell the difference between a worn old coin and fake.
Dunno why we still use so many £1 coins still anyway, they should be
minting more £2 coins by now, would have thought that would be cheaper
to do anyway! Working on a till you realize things like when you have
£2 coins you never need give out more than one £1 coin in one go,
also handy when there are no £5 notes.

I am such a geek LOL
....
I used to have that power when I worked the till as well. There were always
guys coming in with counterfeit small bills. (Never noticed any coins, who
would counterfeit our largest used coin, the quarter?) This was back before
they had those special pens to mark the bills to see if they were real.
These guys were mainly using fake 10 notes. I could tell right off, but
refusing them was not an option. I asked my boss about it and he told me
that getting the customer line out the door was more important and the bank
would work it all out.

--
Jonathan_ATC

In a recent message "Jonathan_ATC" wrote:


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I used to have that power when I worked the till as well. There were always
guys coming in with counterfeit small bills. (Never noticed any coins, who
would counterfeit our largest used coin, the quarter?) This was back before
they had those special pens to mark the bills to see if they were real.
These guys were mainly using fake 10 notes. I could tell right off, but
refusing them was not an option. I asked my boss about it and he told me
that getting the customer line out the door was more important and the bank
would work it all out.

No wonder you got so many fakes if you accepted them regardless.


--
Tony Clayton
Coins of the UK : http://www.coinsoftheuk.info
Sent using RISCOS on an Acorn Strong Arm RiscPC
.... Misspelled? Impossible. My modem is error correcting.

"Tony Clayton" wrote in message
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In a recent message "Jonathan_ATC" wrote:


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I used to have that power when I worked the till as well. There were
always
guys coming in with counterfeit small bills. (Never noticed any coins,
who
would counterfeit our largest used coin, the quarter?) This was back
before
they had those special pens to mark the bills to see if they were real.
These guys were mainly using fake 10 notes. I could tell right off, but
refusing them was not an option. I asked my boss about it and he told me
that getting the customer line out the door was more important and the
bank
would work it all out.

No wonder you got so many fakes if you accepted them regardless.


--
Tony Clayton
Coins of the UK : http://www.coinsoftheuk.info
Sent using RISCOS on an Acorn Strong Arm RiscPC
... Misspelled? Impossible. My modem is error correcting.

Well, the boss was "let go" not long after a few months of us being told to
accept any bills. Of course, the money lost on fakes was more than made up
by the volume. I would run 75-90 customers through there in an hour. Only
one out of 500 customers might be passing bad bills.

Refusing was not an option as I was there by myself without a gun. They
were big, scary guys and I was not about to refuse any bills they spent.
LOL! See, here in the US South, one knows most of this type of guy is
carrying a gun. If they can't pass some fake bill, they will more than
likely rob you and shoot you. I don't know how it is where you are,
probably no fear of gun violence?

I'd like to see the idiots who are trying to pass these fake pound coins.
We've got an idea here that no one would be stupid enough to fake anything
they couldn't get at least $9.00 in change for. What would be the point of
faking a pound coin? Just for purchases? Most people pass counterfeit
bills because they can get a small item and REAL money in return change.
--
Jonathan_ATC

Jonathan_ATC wrote:
"Tony Clayton" wrote in message
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In a recent message "Jonathan_ATC" wrote:


...
I used to have that power when I worked the till as well. There were
always
guys coming in with counterfeit small bills. (Never noticed any coins,
who
would counterfeit our largest used coin, the quarter?) This was back
before
they had those special pens to mark the bills to see if they were real.
These guys were mainly using fake 10 notes. I could tell right off, but
refusing them was not an option. I asked my boss about it and he told me
that getting the customer line out the door was more important and the
bank
would work it all out.

No wonder you got so many fakes if you accepted them regardless.


--
Tony Clayton
Coins of the UK : http://www.coinsoftheuk.info
Sent using RISCOS on an Acorn Strong Arm RiscPC
... Misspelled? Impossible. My modem is error correcting.

Well, the boss was "let go" not long after a few months of us being told to
accept any bills. Of course, the money lost on fakes was more than made up
by the volume. I would run 75-90 customers through there in an hour. Only
one out of 500 customers might be passing bad bills.

Refusing was not an option as I was there by myself without a gun. They
were big, scary guys and I was not about to refuse any bills they spent.
LOL! See, here in the US South, one knows most of this type of guy is
carrying a gun. If they can't pass some fake bill, they will more than
likely rob you and shoot you. I don't know how it is where you are,
probably no fear of gun violence?

I'd like to see the idiots who are trying to pass these fake pound coins.
We've got an idea here that no one would be stupid enough to fake anything
they couldn't get at least $9.00 in change for. What would be the point of
faking a pound coin? Just for purchases? Most people pass counterfeit
bills because they can get a small item and REAL money in return change.
--
Jonathan_ATC


I remember reading that a criminal gang in the northern UK was
responsible for
many of the fake 1 pound coins being found in circulation. They would
spend them
in casinos and nightclubs where the lighting was often not great to
spot them and
the fast paced atmosphere made it easier.

ASDA (or Wal*Mart) as it is know everywhere else, probably do use a
bank, thats what I meant.

I was once given a fake pound by a bank, I came back in with it and the
banker insited it was real!



$1 is still in notes, WOW!

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Jonathan_ATC wrote:
"Tony Clayton" wrote in message
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In a recent message "Jonathan_ATC" wrote:


...
I used to have that power when I worked the till as well. There were
always
guys coming in with counterfeit small bills. (Never noticed any
coins,
who
would counterfeit our largest used coin, the quarter?) This was back
before
they had those special pens to mark the bills to see if they were
real.
These guys were mainly using fake 10 notes. I could tell right off,
but
refusing them was not an option. I asked my boss about it and he told
me
that getting the customer line out the door was more important and
the
bank
would work it all out.

No wonder you got so many fakes if you accepted them regardless.


--
Tony Clayton
Coins of the UK : http://www.coinsoftheuk.info
Sent using RISCOS on an Acorn Strong Arm RiscPC
... Misspelled? Impossible. My modem is error correcting.

Well, the boss was "let go" not long after a few months of us being told
to
accept any bills. Of course, the money lost on fakes was more than made
up
by the volume. I would run 75-90 customers through there in an hour.
Only
one out of 500 customers might be passing bad bills.

Refusing was not an option as I was there by myself without a gun. They
were big, scary guys and I was not about to refuse any bills they spent.
LOL! See, here in the US South, one knows most of this type of guy is
carrying a gun. If they can't pass some fake bill, they will more than
likely rob you and shoot you. I don't know how it is where you are,
probably no fear of gun violence?

I'd like to see the idiots who are trying to pass these fake pound coins.
We've got an idea here that no one would be stupid enough to fake
anything
they couldn't get at least $9.00 in change for. What would be the point
of
faking a pound coin? Just for purchases? Most people pass counterfeit
bills because they can get a small item and REAL money in return change.
--
Jonathan_ATC


I remember reading that a criminal gang in the northern UK was
responsible for
many of the fake 1 pound coins being found in circulation. They would
spend them
in casinos and nightclubs where the lighting was often not great to
spot them and
the fast paced atmosphere made it easier.


A few years ago a gang of counterfeiters of £1 coins were caught and I
believe they were making about 7,000 of them per week and were sold for 25
pence each, that's £1,750 per week, not bad. Billy

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"Tony Clayton" wrote in message
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In a recent message "Jonathan_ATC" wrote:


...
I used to have that power when I worked the till as well. There were
always
guys coming in with counterfeit small bills. (Never noticed any coins,
who
would counterfeit our largest used coin, the quarter?) This was back
before
they had those special pens to mark the bills to see if they were real.
These guys were mainly using fake 10 notes. I could tell right off, but
refusing them was not an option. I asked my boss about it and he told me
that getting the customer line out the door was more important and the
bank
would work it all out.

No wonder you got so many fakes if you accepted them regardless.


--
Tony Clayton
Coins of the UK : http://www.coinsoftheuk.info
Sent using RISCOS on an Acorn Strong Arm RiscPC
... Misspelled? Impossible. My modem is error correcting.

Well, the boss was "let go" not long after a few months of us being told to
accept any bills. Of course, the money lost on fakes was more than made up
by the volume. I would run 75-90 customers through there in an hour. Only
one out of 500 customers might be passing bad bills.

Refusing was not an option as I was there by myself without a gun. They
were big, scary guys and I was not about to refuse any bills they spent.
LOL! See, here in the US South, one knows most of this type of guy is
carrying a gun. If they can't pass some fake bill, they will more than
likely rob you and shoot you. I don't know how it is where you are,
probably no fear of gun violence?

Not to that extent!

I'd like to see the idiots who are trying to pass these fake pound coins.
We've got an idea here that no one would be stupid enough to fake anything
they couldn't get at least $9.00 in change for. What would be the point of
faking a pound coin? Just for purchases? Most people pass counterfeit
bills because they can get a small item and REAL money in return change.

I would agree, but it is clearly worthwhile as so many are around,
and they are NOT obvious to the casual glance most people give their
small change.

None the less, if you know what to look for they are generally obvious.
But then a good forgery would be difficult to spot - how many collectors
coins are actually false? Many GB sovereigns are, even though made of gold!

--
Tony Clayton
Coins of the UK : http://www.coinsoftheuk.info
Sent using RISCOS on an Acorn Strong Arm RiscPC
.... Psychoceramics: The study of crackpots.

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ASDA (or Wal*Mart) as it is know everywhere else, probably do use a
bank, thats what I meant.

I was once given a fake pound by a bank, I came back in with it and the
banker insited it was real!



$1 is still in notes, WOW!

Yes, go figure. Still can't get the Yanks to carry and spend $1 coins. I
really enjoyed my one and only trip to the UK. The £1 and £2 coins were
really easy to carry and spend. That was 11 years ago, I believe.

Many folks believe that we'll (USA) never get to using the $1 coins until we
do away with the $1 notes. Of course, it would help (IMHO) if they came up
with a decent design for the coins.

We don't have any problem at all with counterfeit $1 coins, no one uses them
anyway. LOL!

Jonathan_ATC