How many 'collect' non-functioning pens?

"Fred" wrote in message
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Patents expire within a couple of decades of issuance (20 years from
filing date for patents granted today, in the US, IIRC). I'm sure
there is no enforceable Snorkel patent remaining.

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"Verbing weirds language." -- Calvin

Are expiring patents renewable?
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"Free Citizen" wrote in message
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FC,

Arguing with Penmart is pointless - my dog is brighter than Shel.

hell, she's brighter than me.

take care,
kcat

my dog is brighter than Shel.

That's a compliment, dogs are often brighter than people, especially their
owners.

hell, she's brighter than me.
kca****

No great accomplishment... your dog's **** is brighter than you, is prettier,
smells better, and has more class.


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"KCat" wrote in message
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[snip]

FC,

Arguing with Penmart is pointless - my dog is brighter than Shel.

hell, she's brighter than me.

take care,
kcat


I get your point. Boy, what a waste of my time.
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"Fred" wrote in message
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[snip]

No, not in the US. You are thinking copyrights I suspect. A
copyright can be renewed.

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regards, Fred

"Verbing weirds language." -- Calvin

So, what do you think? Is the copyright of the Snorkel still held by
Sheaffer?
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"Fred" wrote in message
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The snorkel pen cannot be copyrighted. A copyright protects an
original artistic or literary work; a patent protects an invention.

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regards, Fred

"Verbing weirds language." -- Calvin

You are right. You can't reproduce any Snorkel Pen designed made by
Sheaffer. But the patent to the mechanism itself has already lapse. Which
means, if any entrepreneur who want to market a new Snorkel will have to
start from scratch. Designing a workable pen is easy but to design a
beautiful pen that will sell itself is hard.
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The snorkel pen cannot be copyrighted. A copyright protects an
original artistic or literary work; a patent protects an invention.

Fred

Nope. Copyrights protect original "expressions", including names, "Sheaffer"
and "Sheaffer Snorkel" certainly can be copyrighted.


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"Fred" writes:

(PENMART01) wrote:

Sumgai sed:
The snorkel pen cannot be copyrighted. A copyright protects an
original artistic or literary work; a patent protects an invention.

Nope. Copyrights protect original "expressions", including names,
"Sheaffer"
and "Sheaffer Snorkel" certainly can be copyrighted.

Those terms would be trademarked, not copyrighted. Trademarks are not
copyrights are not patents.

A Trademark is generally reserved for logos and things of that nature (symbols)
but could also apply to a word or phrase... there is absolutely no reason
whatsoever that "Snorkel" or "Sheaffer Snorkel" can't be Copyrighted AND
Trademarked.


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"Newbie Fred" scrawls:
(PENMART01) wrote:
Sumgai sed:

Those terms would be trademarked, not copyrighted.

A Trademark is generally reserved for logos and things of that nature
(symbols)
but could also apply to a word or phrase... there is absolutely no reason
whatsoever that "Snorkel" or "Sheaffer Snorkel" can't be Copyrighted AND
Trademarked.

Maybe you will take the opinion of the USPTO, but I doubt it.

http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac...ral/whatis.htm

Why wouldn't I agree, that site agrees with my post and vice versa. Freddy,
you need remedial reading, of that there is no doubt whatsoever... you also
need to learn how to correctly attribute Newsgroup posts, your Newbiness is no
excuse.


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"Free Citizen" writes:

"KCat" wrote in message
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FC,

Arguing with Penmart is pointless - my dog is brighter than Shel.

hell, she's brighter than me.

take care, kcat


I get your point. Boy, what a waste of my time.

Yes, he is. That's why killfiles exist.