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Linns and Stamp Scissoring
Well, it appears that those who voiced their opinions about "scissoring" damaged stamps here are not alone. Linns, in the Reader's Opinions, was bombarded but many like-minded individuals who pretty much came to the conclusion - "we'll do what we like with our stamps". This, of course, includes donating damaged stamps to trhose who want to do more than trash them. The whole section was about this and rightly so. Methinks Mr. Schrieber did a faux pas by going about it the way he did. Yo Dave! We got 'em going! :^P Tracy Barber |
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I totally agree Schreiber is not on the money, he even wrote and
published an article that should have been edited. Especially the sentence "... is one of the few times we've shown stamps used other than as God intended" is way out of line. Philately has nothing to do with religion. And what about Allah and Budha? He should not have printed that sentence, people can be offended by it. Stamps were invented to show the prepayment of a service. We as philatelists take a liking in collecting the prepayment labels called postage stamps. This is a hobby !! Also the rubber stamping is a hobby. Now who are we to say that philatelists can use the stamps for the hobby, and rubber stampers can not? Rather arrogant don't you think? Surely I would not like to see a sheet of the 1 cent 1851 used to decorate an artwork. So what can we do to minimize the possibility that this ever would happen? Educate the rubberstampers in the basics of philately. publish a short story about our concern in their publications. donate, as Tracy Barber does, damaged stamps for art use. And if the rubberstampers use stamps that you might have wanted for your collection? Try to look at it for what it is, the product of a person going after his/her hobby. Erik Mulder On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 03:48:41 GMT, (Tracy Barber) wrote: Well, it appears that those who voiced their opinions about "scissoring" damaged stamps here are not alone. Linns, in the Reader's Opinions, was bombarded but many like-minded individuals who pretty much came to the conclusion - "we'll do what we like with our stamps". This, of course, includes donating damaged stamps to trhose who want to do more than trash them. The whole section was about this and rightly so. Methinks Mr. Schrieber did a faux pas by going about it the way he did. Yo Dave! We got 'em going! :^P Tracy Barber |
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"Erik" wrote in message ... I totally agree Schreiber is not on the money, he even wrote and published an article that should have been edited. Especially the sentence "... is one of the few times we've shown stamps used other than as God intended" is way out of line. Philately has nothing to do with religion. And what about Allah and Budha? He should not have printed that sentence, people can be offended by it. Moslerms are offended by your paragraph. Allah is the Arabic name for the same God, just like Dieu or Dio, and not a different deity, like Buddha. Stamps were invented to show the prepayment of a service. We as philatelists take a liking in collecting the prepayment labels called postage stamps. This is a hobby !! Also the rubber stamping is a hobby. Now who are we to say that philatelists can use the stamps for the hobby, and rubber stampers can not? Rather arrogant don't you think? Surely I would not like to see a sheet of the 1 cent 1851 used to decorate an artwork. So what can we do to minimize the possibility that this ever would happen? Educate the rubberstampers in the basics of philately. publish a short story about our concern in their publications. donate, as Tracy Barber does, damaged stamps for art use. And if the rubberstampers use stamps that you might have wanted for your collection? Try to look at it for what it is, the product of a person going after his/her hobby. Erik Mulder On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 03:48:41 GMT, (Tracy Barber) wrote: Well, it appears that those who voiced their opinions about "scissoring" damaged stamps here are not alone. Linns, in the Reader's Opinions, was bombarded but many like-minded individuals who pretty much came to the conclusion - "we'll do what we like with our stamps". This, of course, includes donating damaged stamps to trhose who want to do more than trash them. The whole section was about this and rightly so. Methinks Mr. Schrieber did a faux pas by going about it the way he did. Yo Dave! We got 'em going! :^P Tracy Barber |
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On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 11:02:12 -0500, "A.E. Gelat"
wrote: "Erik" wrote in message .. . I totally agree Schreiber is not on the money, he even wrote and published an article that should have been edited. Especially the sentence "... is one of the few times we've shown stamps used other than as God intended" is way out of line. Philately has nothing to do with religion. And what about Allah and Budha? He should not have printed that sentence, people can be offended by it. Moslerms are offended by your paragraph. Allah is the Arabic name for the same God, just like Dieu or Dio, and not a different deity, like Buddha. Moslerms? Uhoh... another fundamentalist group! (Yes, I know it was a slip of the pudgy paw) Tracy Barber |
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It wasn't edited because he IS the editor!
he even wrote and published an article that should have been edited. Dave Use commemorative stamps on ALL your mail. Introduce the hobby of collecting stamps to someone. Above all, enjoy your hobby regardless of what you collect! |
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On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 11:02:12 -0500, "A.E. Gelat"
found these unused words floating about: "Erik" wrote in message .. . I totally agree Schreiber is not on the money, he even wrote and published an article that should have been edited. Especially the sentence "... is one of the few times we've shown stamps used other than as God intended" is way out of line. Philately has nothing to do with religion. And what about Allah and Budha? He should not have printed that sentence, people can be offended by it. Moslerms are offended by your paragraph. Allah is the Arabic name for the same God, just like Dieu or Dio, and not a different deity, like Buddha. Then if we believe in the same 'god', why are christians 'infidels'? |
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On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 14:50:59 -0700, J. A. Mc.
wrote: On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 11:02:12 -0500, "A.E. Gelat" found these unused words floating about: "Erik" wrote in message . .. I totally agree Schreiber is not on the money, he even wrote and published an article that should have been edited. Especially the sentence "... is one of the few times we've shown stamps used other than as God intended" is way out of line. Philately has nothing to do with religion. And what about Allah and Budha? He should not have printed that sentence, people can be offended by it. Moslerms are offended by your paragraph. Allah is the Arabic name for the same God, just like Dieu or Dio, and not a different deity, like Buddha. Then if we believe in the same 'god', why are christians 'infidels'? Because it sounds good on Al Jezeera... Tracy Barber |
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Yo Dave! We got 'em going! :^P
Tracy Barber I finally received my copy of Linn's today. I did note quite a bit of editing done to my letter. Did you also notice the dig at the letter about using stamps framed to hang on walls? We may have them going, but they are unrepentant. FYI... to compare, my original letter follows: Dear Mr. Schreiber, While you and reader Christine Crawford express dismay and, might I surmise, disgust at the use of stamps for art and craft projects I take an opposite or at least contrasting viewpoint. Stamps may be "sacred" to us as collectors, but they are not to other people. Stamps are not religious objects and thus can not be "desecrated" as implied. The statement ending with "... stamps used other than as God intended" is so narrowminded and just plain weird. I don't recall a single stamp issued by God or any other deity. Stamps are a great source of pleasure for people making other crafts and arts. I have donated my own surplus stamps for others to use in such projects as have several other contributors in the newsgroup rec.collecting.stamps.discuss. We don't donate sets of Columbians, Penny Blacks or any other variety of very collectible stamps. What I have donated to these craftspeople are the bane of collectors... damaged stamps that have no place in a collection and the utterly common stamps that make one weep with their commonality. These stamps are not sellable and just as much untradable. To not donate them for crafts would doom them to the trash. Those stamps have a second life to provide pleasure to others who may or may not share this hobby of collecting stamps. I believe to use them to create something that is creative, pleasurable and enjoyable is far better than to send those stamps to the nearest landfill. Their hobby may not be our's, but there is no need to vilify anyone for it. I will continue to donate my "trash stamps" to those with other hobbies that can use them. Dave Boyd Greece, NY Use commemorative stamps on ALL your mail. Introduce the hobby of collecting stamps to someone. Above all, enjoy your hobby regardless of what you collect! |
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I have sent a response to Schreiber suggesting that the damaged stamps that
E. Rawolik writes about each week are certainly suitable for uses other than in albums. And, of course, not even the collecting community agrees with Schreiber. At the recent January Aripex show they displayed a statue of a horse that was decorated with stamps. You can see a picture of the statue at http://www.nawcc.org/headquarters/news/tucson.htm. Bill Sharpe "DBoyd001" wrote in message ... Yo Dave! We got 'em going! :^P Tracy Barber I finally received my copy of Linn's today. I did note quite a bit of editing done to my letter. Did you also notice the dig at the letter about using stamps framed to hang on walls? We may have them going, but they are unrepentant. FYI... to compare, my original letter follows: Dear Mr. Schreiber, While you and reader Christine Crawford express dismay and, might I surmise, disgust at the use of stamps for art and craft projects I take an opposite or at least contrasting viewpoint. Stamps may be "sacred" to us as collectors, but they are not to other people. Stamps are not religious objects and thus can not be "desecrated" as implied. The statement ending with "... stamps used other than as God intended" is so narrowminded and just plain weird. I don't recall a single stamp issued by God or any other deity. Stamps are a great source of pleasure for people making other crafts and arts. I have donated my own surplus stamps for others to use in such projects as have several other contributors in the newsgroup rec.collecting.stamps.discuss. We don't donate sets of Columbians, Penny Blacks or any other variety of very collectible stamps. What I have donated to these craftspeople are the bane of collectors... damaged stamps that have no place in a collection and the utterly common stamps that make one weep with their commonality. These stamps are not sellable and just as much untradable. To not donate them for crafts would doom them to the trash. Those stamps have a second life to provide pleasure to others who may or may not share this hobby of collecting stamps. I believe to use them to create something that is creative, pleasurable and enjoyable is far better than to send those stamps to the nearest landfill. Their hobby may not be our's, but there is no need to vilify anyone for it. I will continue to donate my "trash stamps" to those with other hobbies that can use them. Dave Boyd Greece, NY Use commemorative stamps on ALL your mail. Introduce the hobby of collecting stamps to someone. Above all, enjoy your hobby regardless of what you collect! |
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