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Old July 31st 11, 10:58 PM posted to rec.collecting.books
Francis A. Miniter[_2_]
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The novel Black Robe by Brian Moore (and, yes, the movie,
too) inspired me to do some research, from which I learned
that the Jesuits in Canada were fanatical reporters, sending
annual Relations back to their superiors in France, telling
them everything that happened that year. While I have still
to come across a printed set of these reports, I found
yesterday the next best thing: a four volume set of
_Pioneer Priests of North America, 1642 - 1710_ , by Rev. T.
J. Campbell, S.J. of Fordham University, published from 1908
to 1916 (first printing of each volume and yes it has been
reprinted periodically) and all in very good condition. The
first volume is sort of a summary to the other three, which
are arranged as follows: vol. 1 - Among the Iroquois; vol.
2 - Among the Hurons; vol. 3 - Among the Algonquins.

In addition to the Relations, the author relies on Parkman,
Winsor and numerous other authorities, but cites to Parkman
more often than to the others.


--
Francis A. Miniter

Mesure is Medicine þauh þou muche ȝeor[n]e.
Al nis not good to þe gost þat þe bodi lykeþ,
Ne lyflode to þe licam þat leof is to þe soule.

William Langland, The Vision of Piers Plowman
Passus I, lines 33 - 35
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Old August 1st 11, 11:57 AM posted to rec.collecting.books
Don Phillipson[_2_]
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"Francis A. Miniter" wrote in message
...

. . . the Jesuits in Canada were fanatical reporters, sending annual
Relations back to their superiors in France, telling them everything that
happened that year. While I have still to come across a printed set of
these reports, I found yesterday the next best thing: a four volume set
of _Pioneer Priests of North America, 1642 - 1710_ , by Rev. T. J.
Campbell, S.J. of Fordham University, published from 1908 to 1916 (first
printing of each volume and yes it has been reprinted periodically) and
all in very good condition.


The single likeliest source in English is books published by
the Champlain Society, a patriotic/historical society founded
1905. Google searches suggest that its early publications
were as highly redacted as Fr. Campbell's. The Canadian Encyclopedia tells
us
" the Jesuit Relations were avidly and widely read in the 18th century,
along with the works of Cartier and Champlain, as exciting travel
literature. Reuben Gold Thwaites edited 73 volumes as The Jesuit Relations
and Allied Documents, Travels and Explorations of the Jesuit Missionaries in
New France 1610-1791 (1896-1901), presenting annotated parallel versions of
his translations and the French, Latin and Italian original texts."

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)


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Old August 1st 11, 04:27 PM posted to rec.collecting.books
Francis A. Miniter[_2_]
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On 8/1/2011 6:57 AM, Don Phillipson wrote:
"Francis A. wrote in message
...

. . . the Jesuits in Canada were fanatical reporters, sending annual
Relations back to their superiors in France, telling them everything that
happened that year. While I have still to come across a printed set of
these reports, I found yesterday the next best thing: a four volume set
of _Pioneer Priests of North America, 1642 - 1710_ , by Rev. T. J.
Campbell, S.J. of Fordham University, published from 1908 to 1916 (first
printing of each volume and yes it has been reprinted periodically) and
all in very good condition.


The single likeliest source in English is books published by
the Champlain Society, a patriotic/historical society founded
1905. Google searches suggest that its early publications
were as highly redacted as Fr. Campbell's. The Canadian Encyclopedia tells
us
" the Jesuit Relations were avidly and widely read in the 18th century,
along with the works of Cartier and Champlain, as exciting travel
literature. Reuben Gold Thwaites edited 73 volumes as The Jesuit Relations
and Allied Documents, Travels and Explorations of the Jesuit Missionaries in
New France 1610-1791 (1896-1901), presenting annotated parallel versions of
his translations and the French, Latin and Italian original texts."


Thank you. As a result of your information,I found them on
AddAll.com, for about $7,500 for all 73 volumes, or
individually on sale for an average of $100 each volume. I
guess I had better wait for some scholar to die and his
family to hold an estate sale.

--
Francis A. Miniter

Mesure is Medicine þauh þou muche ȝeor[n]e.
Al nis not good to þe gost þat þe bodi lykeþ,
Ne lyflode to þe licam þat leof is to þe soule.

William Langland, The Vision of Piers Plowman
Passus I, lines 33 - 35
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Old August 3rd 11, 01:03 AM posted to rec.collecting.books
Jack Campin
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the Jesuits in Canada were fanatical reporters, sending
annual Relations back to their superiors in France, telling
them everything that happened that year. While I have still
to come across a printed set of these reports, I found
yesterday the next best thing: a four volume set of
_Pioneer Priests of North America, 1642 - 1710_ , by Rev. T.
J. Campbell, S.J. of Fordham University, published from 1908
to 1916


Did they report anything about Native American music?

I ask because Athanasius Kircher used Jesuit reports in his "Musurgia
Universalis" (1650), which includes arrangements of Christian hymns
from Armenian and Arabic traditions. You might see it as the first
stirring of the idea of "world music".

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Old August 3rd 11, 02:46 PM posted to rec.collecting.books
Don Phillipson[_2_]
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"Francis A. Miniter" wrote in message
...
. . . Reuben Gold Thwaites edited 73 volumes as The Jesuit Relations
and Allied Documents, Travels and Explorations of the Jesuit Missionaries
in
New France 1610-1791 (1896-1901), presenting annotated parallel versions
of
his translations and the French, Latin and Italian original texts."


Thank you. As a result of your information,I found them on AddAll.com,
for about $7,500 for all 73 volumes, or individually on sale for an
average of $100 each volume. I guess I had better wait for some scholar
to die and his family to hold an estate sale.


Just spotted by chance . . .
"The Jesuit Relations and Allied Documents, Volume 42 (ISBN: 9781110297191)

Bookseller: ARVELLE Buch- und Medienversand e.K. (Schenefeld, SH, Germany).
.. .
Book Description: BIBLIOBAZAAR Mai 2009, 2009. Gebunden. Book Condition: 3.
Sofort lieferbar! Restauflage in gutem Zustand. Rechnung mit MwSt. This is a
pre-1923 historical reproduction that was curated for quality. Quality
assurance was conducted on each of these books in an attempt to remove books
with imperfections introduced by the digitization process. Though we have
made best efforts - the books may have occasional errors that do not impede
the reading experience. We believe this work is culturally important and
have elected to bring the book back into print as part of our continuing
commitment to the preservation of printed works worldwide., Englisch, 306
S., 23,4cm x 15,6cm x 1,9cm, 603 g. Bookseller Inventory # 301614"

We now need to know only whether the publisher is reissuing the whole
73-volume set or just one title . . .

Also, McClelland & Stewart published in the 1960s (for Carleton Univ.)
paperback
selections from the Jesuit Relations.
--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)



 




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