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Old July 6th 06, 04:26 AM posted to rec.collecting.books
my-wings
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Default Quasi-tissue guards?

I picked up a copy of *Gun Engraving Review* today, and the color plates in
the front of the book are protected by a nearly transparent sheet of
something that looks like very thin, textured wax paper rather than tissue.
Does anyone know if there is a special name for this kind of picture guard
material?

Alice

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Old July 6th 06, 04:52 AM posted to rec.collecting.books
Kris Baker
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"my-wings" wrote in message
...
I picked up a copy of *Gun Engraving Review* today, and the color plates in
the front of the book are protected by a nearly transparent sheet of
something that looks like very thin, textured wax paper rather than tissue.
Does anyone know if there is a special name for this kind of picture guard
material?

Alice


Gun ad condom.

Kris
(Sorry, couldn't resist)


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Old July 6th 06, 12:40 PM posted to rec.collecting.books
Bob
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Kris Baker wrote:
"my-wings" wrote in message
...
I picked up a copy of *Gun Engraving Review* today, and the color plates in
the front of the book are protected by a nearly transparent sheet of
something that looks like very thin, textured wax paper rather than tissue.
Does anyone know if there is a special name for this kind of picture guard
material?

Alice


Gun ad condom.


Very helpful Kris.
One again you spammed the group and proved to the world what a
fat-assed, hypocritical busybody you are.

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Old July 6th 06, 05:21 PM posted to rec.collecting.books
Jon Meyers
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my-wings wrote:
I picked up a copy of *Gun Engraving Review* today, and the color plates in
the front of the book are protected by a nearly transparent sheet of
something that looks like very thin, textured wax paper rather than tissue.
Does anyone know if there is a special name for this kind of picture guard
material?


Sounds like glassine, a type of treated paper. From the entry "barrier
sheet" from Etherington & Roberts:

A leaf inserted in a book to prevent the transfer of ink (and possibly
acid substances) from a plate or illustration to a facing page, as well
at times to elucidate the plate or illustration it accompanies. The sheet
may be a highly sized paper, so called acid-free paper, or, more often,
glassine paper. It may be loose in the book, sewn in with the binding, or,
in the usual case, tipped to the leaf it protects. Barrier sheets are
frequently made of an inferior quality of paper, one which will eventually
develop acidity that can in turn be transferred to the facing text leaves,
weakening them. For this reason, they should be removed, or, if they bear
letterpress and therefore must be retained, deacidified and buffered,
strengthened (if necessary), and reinserted in the volume. See also: ACID
MIGRATION


http://palimpsest.stanford.edu/don/dt/dt0237.html


--Jon Meyers
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Old July 6th 06, 05:51 PM posted to rec.collecting.books
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"Jon Meyers" wrote in message
...
my-wings wrote:
I picked up a copy of *Gun Engraving Review* today, and the color plates
in the front of the book are protected by a nearly transparent sheet of
something that looks like very thin, textured wax paper rather than
tissue. Does anyone know if there is a special name for this kind of
picture guard material?


Sounds like glassine, a type of treated paper. From the entry "barrier
sheet" from Etherington & Roberts:

A leaf inserted in a book to prevent the transfer of ink (and possibly
acid substances) from a plate or illustration to a facing page, as well
at times to elucidate the plate or illustration it accompanies. The sheet
may be a highly sized paper, so called acid-free paper, or, more often,
glassine paper. It may be loose in the book, sewn in with the binding,
or, in the usual case, tipped to the leaf it protects. Barrier sheets are
frequently made of an inferior quality of paper, one which will
eventually develop acidity that can in turn be transferred to the facing
text leaves, weakening them. For this reason, they should be removed, or,
if they bear letterpress and therefore must be retained, deacidified and
buffered, strengthened (if necessary), and reinserted in the volume. See
also: ACID MIGRATION


http://palimpsest.stanford.edu/don/dt/dt0237.html



Thanks, Jon! Glassine sounds like what it is. The pages are patterned with a
spiderweb design, which looks kind of neat.

The recommendation in the article to remove such sheets is the first time
I've seen advice to remove any component of a book "as issued." Wouldn't
that decrease the value of the book? And wouldn't it just re-create the
problem of some kind of ink transfer from the picture to the facing text
page?

I know that I, for one, shall be keeping my spiderweb'd glassine barrier
sheets because they're just too cool not to!

Alice


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Old July 6th 06, 06:47 PM posted to rec.collecting.books
Kris Baker
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"my-wings" wrote in message
...

"Jon Meyers" wrote in message
...
my-wings wrote:
I picked up a copy of *Gun Engraving Review* today, and the color plates
in the front of the book are protected by a nearly transparent sheet of
something that looks like very thin, textured wax paper rather than
tissue. Does anyone know if there is a special name for this kind of
picture guard material?


Sounds like glassine, a type of treated paper. From the entry "barrier
sheet" from Etherington & Roberts:

A leaf inserted in a book to prevent the transfer of ink (and possibly
acid substances) from a plate or illustration to a facing page, as well
at times to elucidate the plate or illustration it accompanies. The
sheet may be a highly sized paper, so called acid-free paper, or, more
often, glassine paper. It may be loose in the book, sewn in with the
binding, or, in the usual case, tipped to the leaf it protects. Barrier
sheets are frequently made of an inferior quality of paper, one which
will eventually develop acidity that can in turn be transferred to the
facing text leaves, weakening them. For this reason, they should be
removed, or, if they bear letterpress and therefore must be retained,
deacidified and buffered, strengthened (if necessary), and reinserted in
the volume. See also: ACID MIGRATION


http://palimpsest.stanford.edu/don/dt/dt0237.html



Thanks, Jon! Glassine sounds like what it is. The pages are patterned with
a spiderweb design, which looks kind of neat.

The recommendation in the article to remove such sheets is the first time
I've seen advice to remove any component of a book "as issued." Wouldn't
that decrease the value of the book? And wouldn't it just re-create the
problem of some kind of ink transfer from the picture to the facing text
page?

I know that I, for one, shall be keeping my spiderweb'd glassine barrier
sheets because they're just too cool not to!

Alice


I've seen books with darkened areas that match the left-in preservative
sheet.
I always thought they were there just to prevent ink transfer on slower-
drying inks of the past.
Is yours bound-in? If not, it could be de-acified.

Kris
Sorry for my bad joke
Sometimes.....


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Old July 6th 06, 09:17 PM posted to rec.collecting.books
bml
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Default Quasi-tissue guards?


my-wings wrote:
"Jon Meyers" wrote in message
...

....
Sounds like glassine, a type of treated paper. From the entry "barrier
sheet" from Etherington & Roberts:

A leaf inserted in a book to prevent the transfer of ink (and possibly
acid substances) from a plate or illustration to a facing page, as well
at times to elucidate the plate or illustration it accompanies. The sheet
may be a highly sized paper, so called acid-free paper, or, more often,
glassine paper. It may be loose in the book, sewn in with the binding,
or, in the usual case, tipped to the leaf it protects. Barrier sheets are
frequently made of an inferior quality of paper, one which will
eventually develop acidity that can in turn be transferred to the facing
text leaves, weakening them. For this reason, they should be removed, or,
if they bear letterpress and therefore must be retained, deacidified and
buffered, strengthened (if necessary), and reinserted in the volume. See
also: ACID MIGRATION


....
The recommendation in the article to remove such sheets is the first time
I've seen advice to remove any component of a book "as issued." Wouldn't
that decrease the value of the book? And wouldn't it just re-create the
problem of some kind of ink transfer from the picture to the facing text
page?...



I agree - I would not want to remove an integral component of a book.
[If the sheets are loose, then I would store them in a mylar envelope
or de-acidify them]
How about inserting thin acid free sheets on both sides of each
barrier sheet - then you would protect the book with
"barrier sheet barrier sheets."

The problem with this is that the acid will eventually eat through
the barrier sheet, so they would need to be replaced every
decade or so (your milage may vary).

Brian

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Old July 6th 06, 10:31 PM posted to rec.collecting.books
my-wings
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"Kris Baker" wrote in message
.com...

"my-wings" wrote in message
...


snip

I know that I, for one, shall be keeping my spiderweb'd glassine barrier
sheets because they're just too cool not to!

Alice


I've seen books with darkened areas that match the left-in preservative
sheet.
I always thought they were there just to prevent ink transfer on slower-
drying inks of the past.
Is yours bound-in? If not, it could be de-acified.

Kris
Sorry for my bad joke
Sometimes.....


Well, I have to confess that your joke brought to mind a little ditty about
weapons and guns that a former Marine told me...Something about one being
used for pleasure and fun and the other being used to protect the first.
Only his rhymed, of course. Which gives the title of my book: *Gun Engraving
Review* a whole different twist...

Alice

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http://www.mywingsbooks.com/


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Old July 7th 06, 02:50 AM posted to rec.collecting.books
Bob
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Kris Baker wrote:

Kris
Sorry for my bad joke
Sometimes.....


No, fat ass, it wasn't a bad joke - IT WAS SPAM!
After all your ranting and raving about spam and off-topic posts to
this group, your "sorry" just doesn't cut it.
You are a hypocrite.
If you had any sense of honor and decency, you'd kill yourself !!!!!
--
RWF

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Old July 7th 06, 03:08 AM posted to rec.collecting.books
Sam
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No, fat ass, it wasn't a bad joke - IT WAS SPAM!
After all your ranting and raving about spam and off-topic posts to
this group, your "sorry" just doesn't cut it.
You are a hypocrite.
If you had any sense of honor and decency, you'd kill yourself !!!!!
--
RWF


Why must you respond to every spam BOB? OCD?
Or just the empty life of a fat-assed busybody?

 




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