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"MatthewK" wrote in message
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Anything "bad" that has happened to me in any thread I post
here is because of lack of clarity on my part.

I prefer to think that we've been trying to guide you. I hope you don't
think anything "bad" was intended, at least, not from me.

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"Bluesea" wrote in message
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Isn't the thought of shelling out $300 for a single pen alarming? It
chokes
me. Yet, I have to be realistic - there are people who don't think twice
about dropping that kind of dough on a good user pen. Wait 'til you're
out of school and can afford a pen that costs over $40 .

I've been thinking that I should raise the high end to $400 because of
inflation.


$300 for a writing utensil is alarming.

A friend, employed as an ad copywriter, has a Pel M800 as his daily writer.
He uses it at his desk and for meetings. It's his favorite pen and the only
fp he has.

$300 for a fetish object is OK.

Why is $300 for a fetish object OK but alarming for a writing utensil? After
all, it's still $300 being spent on a single item.

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And I don't consider myself a collector.

I'd call it a fetish.

LOL. Okay, now I get it. You're rationalizing the expenditure by saying
that $300 for a fetish is okay.

I say that as long as mortgage/rent, groceries, utilities, and other bills
for basic living needs are paid, it doesn't matter on what we spend our
disposable income as long as it isn't for something illegal. My problem is
that I can't justify it for myself because less expensive pens have done
extremely well for me even for eye appeal.

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On Jun 14, 3:23*am, Deirdre Saoirse Moen wrote:


In the "Pens under $200" category, there's really only a few I'm
satisfied enough with to buy more of:

Stipula Vedo
Aurora Ipsilon
Namiki Vanishing Point
Pilot Custom 98

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I found a Cross Verve in Merlot on Ebay (new) for $119, and I love
this pen. Its quirky looking, and not usually what I'd buy. Even
though I like Sailor 1911 and a few lower end Stipulas, I've got
enough modern pens (that I don't use) that my paring usually starts at
the bottom.

There was a point I was "gathering" and not collecting, and I had a
bunch of pens between $80 and $250. Now I think I've better defined
what I like. I sometimes buy stuff just to fix it and resell it, then
stupidly get attached to something I fix well. I've got a bunch of 2nd
and 3rd tier golden-age pens with sweet flexible Warranted
nibs...and... I...just...can't....bring....myself.... to sell them,
particularly because they probably aren't worth $80

On Jun 14, 8:34*pm, "JP" wrote:
"Bluesea" wrote in message

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Isn't the thought of shelling out $300 for a single pen alarming? It
chokes
me. Yet, I have to be realistic - there are people who don't think twice
about dropping that kind of dough on a good user pen. Wait 'til you're out
of school and can afford a pen that costs over $40 .

I've been thinking that I should raise the high end to $400 because of
inflation.

$300 for a writing utensil is alarming.
$300 for a fetish object is OK.

...and the thought of dropping $65k on an automobile... well, it isn't
alarming, but I can't imagine ever spending that much. However, there
are more than plenty on the road that cost at least that much.

Its all about your priorities and income level. $300 for a writing
utensil may be alarming to you, based on how you allocate your
resources. It isn't alarming in the absolute though.

On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:10:28 -0500, "Bluesea"
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"MatthewK" wrote in message
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On 2008-06-09, Bluesea wrote:

Thanks for helping me clarify my thoughts.

You're welcome. Discussion helps me, too.

Your last statement
about great pens from $3- $300(?) dollars is a good
generalization.

Isn't the thought of shelling out $300 for a single pen alarming? It chokes
me. Yet, I have to be realistic - there are people who don't think twice
about dropping that kind of dough on a good user pen. Wait 'til you're out
of school and can afford a pen that costs over $40 .

What if you're not in school, have a good job and could afford a $300
pen, or a few of them, but think it's just a total waste of money when
you can buy one for less than $30 that will work as well.

I've been thinking that I should raise the high end to $400 because of
inflation.

I'm thinking of lowering, not raising, the amount I'll pay for a pen.

On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:34:42 GMT, "JP" wrote:

I'd call it a fetish.

And hell, you might even get more enjoyment out of porn.

In ,
MatthewK wrote:

Thanks, and I think your right about me presenting most of
my opinions as "foggy".

No, *thank you* -- I'm relieved not to have gotten into one of those
sumo-suit-wrestling threads where people endlessly "argue" past each other.
That happened, I think early last year, between BL and I over Quink.

....the funny thing about all this is I've been making an
attempt to study the trivium lately. lol

And then on to the quadrivium? Seriously, I think that's pretty cool! I
assume _you're_ making the attempt because your school has never heard of
it.

Brian
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Inspiring Discovery wrote:
On Jun 14, 3:23 am, Deirdre Saoirse Moen wrote:

In the "Pens under $200" category, there's really only a few I'm
satisfied enough with to buy more of:

Stipula Vedo
Aurora Ipsilon
Namiki Vanishing Point
Pilot Custom 98

--
_Deirdre web:http://deirdre.net blog:http://dsmoen.livejournal.com/
"Memes are a hoax! Pass it on!"

I found a Cross Verve in Merlot on Ebay (new) for $119, and I love
this pen. Its quirky looking, and not usually what I'd buy. Even
though I like Sailor 1911 and a few lower end Stipulas, I've got
enough modern pens (that I don't use) that my paring usually starts at
the bottom.

If you use your pens, watch out for the clip on the Verve. I have a
fountain and rollerball in the platinum finish, and both clips broke,
necessitating a repair. Fortunately, Cross was very prompt with both
pens; their warranty really means something.

Jeff

"The Drunken Lord" wrote in message
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On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:10:28 -0500, "Bluesea"
wrote:


"MatthewK" wrote in message
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On 2008-06-09, Bluesea wrote:

Thanks for helping me clarify my thoughts.

You're welcome. Discussion helps me, too.

Your last statement
about great pens from $3- $300(?) dollars is a good
generalization.

Isn't the thought of shelling out $300 for a single pen alarming? It
chokes
me. Yet, I have to be realistic - there are people who don't think twice
about dropping that kind of dough on a good user pen. Wait 'til you're out
of school and can afford a pen that costs over $40 .

What if you're not in school, have a good job and could afford a $300
pen, or a few of them, but think it's just a total waste of money when
you can buy one for less than $30 that will work as well.

Can a collection consist of a single pen?

Since I collect user pens, and this is alt.COLLECTING.pens-pencils, that
$300 went for 10 pens @$30 each or 3 pens @$100 each or 2 pens @$150 each.

I've been thinking that I should raise the high end to $400 because of
inflation.

I'm thinking of lowering, not raising, the amount I'll pay for a pen.

That's fine with me. It's your collection, your money, your choice.

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Bluesea wrote:

Isn't the thought of shelling out $300 for a single pen alarming? It chokes
me. Yet, I have to be realistic - there are people who don't think twice
about dropping that kind of dough on a good user pen. Wait 'til you're out
of school and can afford a pen that costs over $40 .

I've been thinking that I should raise the high end to $400 because of
inflation.

I went to Bittner's Visconti Sale this last weekend and bought three pens
(and some other stuff) and managed to keep my bill at around $900.

What I bought pen-wise:

1) Visconti Mazzi The Queen/Climbing the Sky frankenpen (I have the top half
of one LE and the bottom half of the other) Upgrade to an 18k nib so I could
have a factory stub.
2) Visconti Millenium Arc in Orange. I have the blue one, so now I have two
of the three.
3) Visconti Van Gogh Midi in the new Evergreen. $146 (instead of $195)

The first was definitely a splurge and will use, but it's a desk pen, not a
carry pen. The second is just gorgeous and I'm sure I'll use it a lot. The
third I'll use all the time.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/muhe-e/2578440809/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/muhe-e/2579276384/

So I guess I don't find it alarming, though I do tend to find my daily
writers are the ones I paid $100-$200 for (regardless of original street
price).

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"Memes are a hoax! Pass it on!"