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Queen Victoria Revenue Used in Victoria in 1961
I place the date of this manuscript cancel as 5/17/61 or for those inclined 17/5/61. Now, after how many kings, queens and different royal players, this stamp comes out of the closet to be used. http://www.adirondack-pc.com/VictoriaQVRev.jpg Now, these stamps are definitely a quandary. It is revenue usage, I don't think there's any doubt. These Stamp Duty issues could be used as postage as well. I wonder if this beast is an original or state reprinted copy? I have - and have seen many others of this set used in the '50s / '60s. According to the Barefoot revenue catalog of 1996, this is the 1909 2/6 Orange. Even so, this would be very late to use a QV image. In 1961 it is now 4 royalty personages away! Victoria is a specialist's nightmare - or like Machin folk - a field of plenty. |
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Queen Victoria Revenue Used in Victoria in 1961
G'day Tracy, I have it as an SG0254 2s6d brown orange 1884 Victoria Australia No repints of this value Wmk 23 perf 12.5 As described in my recent post, postage was valid, and across states until 14th Feb 1966 I couldn't see any listing 1909 wrote in message ... I place the date of this manuscript cancel as 5/17/61 or for those inclined 17/5/61. Now, after how many kings, queens and different royal players, this stamp comes out of the closet to be used. http://www.adirondack-pc.com/VictoriaQVRev.jpg Now, these stamps are definitely a quandary. It is revenue usage, I don't think there's any doubt. These Stamp Duty issues could be used as postage as well. I wonder if this beast is an original or state reprinted copy? I have - and have seen many others of this set used in the '50s / '60s. According to the Barefoot revenue catalog of 1996, this is the 1909 2/6 Orange. Even so, this would be very late to use a QV image. In 1961 it is now 4 royalty personages away! Victoria is a specialist's nightmare - or like Machin folk - a field of plenty. |
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Queen Victoria Revenue Used in Victoria in 1961
A slight correction, thanks to your query, I found the preamble to my ongoing question of Australian State stamps being in fact "commonwealth stamps" As in regards to yours, Revenue was still a State based issue (Victoria), and not Commonwealth. However, it was still valid to 1966. "rodney" G'day Tracy, I have it as an SG0254 2s6d brown orange 1884 Victoria Australia No repints of this value Wmk 23 perf 12.5 As described in my recent post, postage was valid, and across states until 14th Feb 1966 I couldn't see any listing 1909 |
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Queen Victoria Revenue Used in Victoria in 1961
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 12:25:24 +0800, "rodney"
wrote: G'day Tracy, I have it as an SG0254 2s6d brown orange 1884 Victoria Australia No repints of this value Wmk 23 perf 12.5 As described in my recent post, postage was valid, and across states until 14th Feb 1966 I couldn't see any listing 1909 This is in the Barefoot Revenue catalog. I can probably scan - maybe - the section. It's a paperback and might break the binding. What's worse is that I just looked at some others of the same series. One has a hand stamped 1961 on it, so there's no mistaking it. The others look like the 1870's issues but were reprinted in 1909. Neat! wrote in message .. . I place the date of this manuscript cancel as 5/17/61 or for those inclined 17/5/61. Now, after how many kings, queens and different royal players, this stamp comes out of the closet to be used. http://www.adirondack-pc.com/VictoriaQVRev.jpg Now, these stamps are definitely a quandary. It is revenue usage, I don't think there's any doubt. These Stamp Duty issues could be used as postage as well. I wonder if this beast is an original or state reprinted copy? I have - and have seen many others of this set used in the '50s / '60s. According to the Barefoot revenue catalog of 1996, this is the 1909 2/6 Orange. Even so, this would be very late to use a QV image. In 1961 it is now 4 royalty personages away! Victoria is a specialist's nightmare - or like Machin folk - a field of plenty. |
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Queen Victoria Revenue Used in Victoria in 1961
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 12:36:01 +0800, "rodney"
wrote: A slight correction, thanks to your query, I found the preamble to my ongoing question of Australian State stamps being in fact "commonwealth stamps" As in regards to yours, Revenue was still a State based issue (Victoria), and not Commonwealth. However, it was still valid to 1966. Quite possibly that some places had extra stock that they wanted to use up. That's the only thing I can think of, unless some place bought some spare sheets from a dealer and used them. In the '60s, they probably weren't worth as much as they are today - which isn't truly a lot anyway. Since the 1909 series, there have been several other larger sets printed for Stamp Duties. I have several examples of at least 2 of the sets. The older stamps I mentioned are quite nice to look at. In that box of OZ I bought a few years ago, there may be more of these in there. That's where they came from mostly. |
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Queen Victoria Revenue Used in Victoria in 1961
This is in the Barefoot Revenue catalog. I can probably scan - maybe - the section. It's a paperback and might break the binding. No, don't risk it. |
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Queen Victoria Revenue Used in Victoria in 1961
Quite possibly that some places had extra stock that they wanted to use up. That's the only thing I can think of, I would agree. Here is the explanation between postage and revenue use of Victorian stamps by Stanley. Yours being printed at the true "postage or revenue" period. THE "POSTAGE AND REVENUE" PERIOD, 1884-1901 Under the provisions of the Postage Act 1883 the stamps of the three series then in use (Postage, Duty, Fee) became, as from 1.1.84, mutually interchangeable. It was, at the same time, decided to issue (as soon as possible) the one stamp only, for any value, to serve all purposes. Since there were available many more dies (and plates) inscribed "Stamp Duty" than there were of either the "Postage" or "Fee" (Stamp Statute) series it was agreed that all values should be inscribed "Stamp Duty" by the beginning of 1885. All stamps printed after 1.1.84 are therefore true "Postage and Revenue" stamps whereas all Stamp Duty and Fee stamps printed before that date are Postal Fiscals, since they were originally printed solely for fiscal purposes. These principles have been strictly adhered to in our listing. Little difficulty should however be met in distinguishing between the printings of the one stamp found respectively in the main list and in the "Postal Fiscal" section since there are many major differences of printing, watermark, perforation and shade. On 1.1.84 there were no "Stamp Duty" designs for the Vad., 2d., 4d., 8d. and 2s. 6d. values. Also the existing "Stamp Duty" designs for the Id., 6d., Is. and 2s. were deemed to be too large to be convenient for general and extensive use. For all these values it was therefore necessary to produce new and smaller designs inscribed "Stamp Duty". Pending the preparation of new dies and plates, printings were made in 1884 (for the Vzd., Id., 2d., 4d., 6d., Is. and 2s. values) from the existing "Postage" plates. These printings are also "Postage and Revenue" stamps but have naturally been included, for the sake of convenience, in the previous period. By the beginning of 1885 printings were available, in the new designs, of all values save the Is. and 2s., and these latter appeared later. |
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Queen Victoria Revenue Used in Victoria in 1961
Rodney,
"until 14th Feb 1966' i.e. as long as the LSD period lasted and before Decimal Day.... ?! groetjes, Rein Op Mon, 16 Jun 2008 06:25:24 +0200 schreef rodney : G'day Tracy, I have it as an SG0254 2s6d brown orange 1884 Victoria Australia No repints of this value Wmk 23 perf 12.5 As described in my recent post, postage was valid, and across states until 14th Feb 1966 I couldn't see any listing 1909 wrote in message ... I place the date of this manuscript cancel as 5/17/61 or for those inclined 17/5/61. Now, after how many kings, queens and different royal players, this stamp comes out of the closet to be used. http://www.adirondack-pc.com/VictoriaQVRev.jpg Now, these stamps are definitely a quandary. It is revenue usage, I don't think there's any doubt. These Stamp Duty issues could be used as postage as well. I wonder if this beast is an original or state reprinted copy? I have - and have seen many others of this set used in the '50s / '60s. According to the Barefoot revenue catalog of 1996, this is the 1909 2/6 Orange. Even so, this would be very late to use a QV image. In 1961 it is now 4 royalty personages away! Victoria is a specialist's nightmare - or like Machin folk - a field of plenty. -- Gemaakt met Opera's revolutionaire e-mailprogramma: http://www.opera.com/mail/ |
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Queen Victoria Revenue Used in Victoria in 1961
No comprende, Senor.
"Rein" "until 14th Feb 1966' i.e. as long as the LSD period lasted and before Decimal Day.... ?! |
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Queen Victoria Revenue Used in Victoria in 1961
Rodney,
szkoda, że nie! 12.02.1966 był ostatnim dniem kiedy znaczki ze oznaczeniem LSD-owskim [pounds, shillings, pennies (d) ] były ważne... pozdrawiam, Rein Op Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:21:19 +0200 schreef rodney : No comprende, Senor. "Rein" "until 14th Feb 1966' i.e. as long as the LSD period lasted and before Decimal Day.... ?! -- Gemaakt met Opera's revolutionaire e-mailprogramma: http://www.opera.com/mail/ |
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