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In article , "Mr. Jaggers" lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com wrote:
winwin wrote: Gasoline: ? High demand - prices go up. ? Lower demand - prices go up. G ?Did you ever feel like you were between a rock and a hard place? Anybody who thinks market forces operate on the petroleum market is a dolt. Prices rise completely independent of demand, but they predictably fall for the brief period before an election every two years, then shoot back up after the election. Seems I asked for supporting documentation of this same claim just a couple of weeks ago. James you did. bet you get the same reply. betcha. |
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Seems I asked for supporting documentation of this same claim just a couple
of weeks ago. James Are you too stupid or too lazy to look out the window at the gas station on the corner? Exactly the same thing happened in 2004 and 2006 -- but WTF should I do research for someone too stupid to observe? |
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winwin wrote:
Seems I asked for supporting documentation of this same claim just a couple of weeks ago. James On August 4, 2008 you stated, Of course gas prices are going down --they alwaty [sic] go down $1-$1.50 before an election." You made the claim, you provide the documentation. Your choice of election year. Karl Rove makes one phone call. You made the claim, you provide the documentation. Your choice of phone call. In December they will creep back over $4, just like clockwork. You made the claim, you provide the documentation. Your choice of prior successful precognition event on your part. I reserve the right to have your submission reviewed by James Randi. Should you pass muster with him, I'll split his $1,000,000 prize money with you. And publicly apologize to you in these pages. You're in luck: Randi's offer doesn't expire until March 6, 2010. But hurry, I expect him to be swamped with claims to evaluate coming up, and none of us is getting any younger. And now, on September 2, 2008 you ask: Are you too stupid or too lazy to look out the window at the gas station on the corner? Exactly the same thing happened in 2004 and 2006 -- but WTF should I do research for someone too stupid to observe? Now, now, profanity and name-calling are the refuge of those who have been caught with their evidence down. I can't "look out the window" and observe 2004 and 2006. You made the claim, you provide the documentation. See terms above. I'll be waitin' James |
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"winwin" wrote in message ... Seems I asked for supporting documentation of this same claim just a couple of weeks ago. James Are you too stupid or too lazy to look out the window at the gas station on the corner? Exactly the same thing happened in 2004 and 2006 -- but WTF should I do research for someone too stupid to observe? Because "looking out the window" does not prove anything except whether it's raining, especially from someone who thinks that one phone call from Rove makes gasoline prices dance up or down. If there's any laziness and stupidity to be found here, it's in your simplistic, questionable assertions and your unwillingness to even attempt to document them. For the record, according to the DOE's spreadsheet of historical prices found at http://www.eia.doe.gov/oil_gas/petro...s_history.html the average nationwide price at the pump for Regular rose from $.99.5 on Feb. 3, 1992, to $1.12 the week of the 1992 elections. Over the same period in the off-year elections of 1994 it rose from $1.007 to $1.123. In 1996 it rose from $1.083 to $1.223. In the off-year elections of 1998 it did not follow the upward spiral pattern, going from $1.061 to $1.010. In 2000 it rose from $1.325 to $1.526. In the off-year elections of 2002, it rose from $1.116 to $1.448. In 2004 it rose from $1.616 to $2.034. The off-year 2006 prices were the only other ones that didn't follow the upward spiral pattern, going from $2.342 to $2.200. The equivalent data isn't in yet for 2008 but the opening gun was at $2.978 and rising. It's never going to even come close to dipping below that by Election Day. There is a brief rise and fall in prices around a mid-summer peak (usually in July) due to increased driving in the summer, but that is truly market-driven because it happens even in odd-numbered years when there are no significant elections. Unlike your previous assertion, there is a relationship between supply and demand. It may not be perfect but it's there. So QED, elections do not result in artificial gasoline price depressions to assist the Republican (or the Democrat) in the races. In every case except for two off-year elections, out of the most recent nine election years, prices rose once the campaigning got serious and started building toward election day. Your apology is awaited, although not expected. |
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Mr. Jaggers wrote:
I reserve the right to have your submission reviewed by James Randi. You never cease to amaze me. g |
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In article , oly wrote: You are noting a phenomena that is already well-noted elsewhere (in the right-wing blogs). It seems that with the coming of the silver and gold ETFs, we now have a "paper" spot and a "physical" spot. Starting about three wees ago, physical spot is much higher. Some people have predicted this outcome for years. Obviously, the ETFs don't really have all the actual precious metals that they are supposed to have. Just another financial scandal waiting to be uncovered. It occured to me much later that there are some pretty big industries such as electronics manufacturing that consume silver in large amounts. Whatever price they are paying should probably be considered the "real" price of silver, and it may or may not be similar to the price that an individual pays for a bar of .999 or whatever. Any idea what manufacturers have been paying, compared to "paper spot" and "physical spot"? -- Please reply to: | "One of the hardest parts of my job is to pciszek at panix dot com | connect Iraq to the War on Terror." Autoreply is disabled | -- G. W. Bush, 9/7/2006 |
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