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Some terminal ****wit redneck desperately cowering behind
DeserTBloB wrote in message
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just the pile of steaming turds thats all it can ever manage.

Some terminal sales ****wit that cant even manage its own lines, claiming to be
George Grapman wrote in message
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the completely superfluous proof of why its never
ever managed anything better than sales ****wit.

Some gutless ****wit that cant even manage its own lines,
or anything else at all, either desperately cowering behind
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just the puerile **** thats always pouring from the back of it.

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On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 08:12:36 GMT, Rod Slow .
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Today he made specious claims about collective bargaining. When shown
to be wrong he completely flipped out with a rant that exceeded even his
usual low standards. snip


Wish I could've been there. I know collective bargaining inside out.
Love to catch this moron in another goof on that subject!

Anyone who spells like he does cannot be too bright. He must be a
friend of Charlie Nudo!


Here is the exchange about collective bargaining:



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The "happy people" also should be paid a good wage, with good
benefits, including a good pension, and the only way to get that from
rich assholes and their sycophants like Ida is to force it with
mandatory
collective bargaining. People like Ida would have everyone working
16 hrs a day for a buck a day, like it was in the US prior to 1900!


agree


I dont on the 'mandatory collective bargaining'


The professions have never done it like that and they
manage decent wages, good benefits/pensions etc anyway.



Wonder which of the following Rod does not consider to be a profession:

Teachers,writers, nurses, airline pilots, broadcast engineers, movie
editors,surveyors and, last but not least, professional athletes.



Guess bowel boy never heard of SEIU,CNA,AFSCME,UFT,AFM,AEA,SA*G to
name
a few.
Please quote my message in your replies so he will , again, go into a
tirade when shown to be wrong.



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Rod Speed wrote
wrote
The "happy people" also should be paid a good wage, with good
benefits, including a good pension, and the only way to get that from
rich assholes and their sycophants like Ida is to force it with
mandatory
collective bargaining. People like Ida would have everyone working
16 hrs a day for a buck a day, like it was in the US prior to 1900!
agree
I dont on the 'mandatory collective bargaining'
The professions have never done it like that and they
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George Grapman wrote in message
om...

Rod Speed wrote


wrote


The "happy people" also should be paid a good wage, with good
benefits, including a good pension, and the only way to get that
from
rich assholes and their sycophants like Ida is to force it with
mandatory
collective bargaining. People like Ida would have everyone working
16 hrs a day for a buck a day, like it was in the US prior to 1900!


agree


I dont on the 'mandatory collective bargaining'


The professions have never done it like that and they
manage decent wages, good benefits/pensions etc anyway.


Wonder which of the following Rod does not consider to be a profession:


Teachers,writers, nurses, airline pilots, broadcast engineers, movie
editors,
surveyors and, last but not least, professional athletes.


All of them, they're trades.


And very few of those use 'mandatory collective bargaining' anyway.
So what is a profession,



Engineers, scientists, doctors, dentists, lawyers, etc etc etc.


Tell me which of the above do not use what you call "mandatory
collective
bargaining"? Teachers? Nurses? Airline pilots? Athletes?


You clearly wouldnt know what 'MANDATORY collective
bargaining' was if it bit you on your lard arse, sales ****wit.

No surprise that the best you have ever managed is sales ****wit.


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Mandatory collective bargaining means that you have to join the
union to get a job and have to abide by the results of failures of that
bargaining.
Tell us which of these are not subject to this:
Pilots
Broadcast engineers
Teachers
Athletes.
Actors
Reporters

Feel free to use the always ready response seen above to admit that,
once again, the facts have failed you.
By the way, little boy, what is your job? English professor? PR
Director for a major company?
Is there a union for welfare leeches?
Sales? Your sales career would be shorter than your fast food career.
You could not even qualify as a customer of mine (they are all educated
decision makers who own or manage businesses).


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Rod Speed wrote
George Grapman wrote
Rod Speed wrote
You clearly wouldnt know what 'MANDATORY collective
bargaining' was if it bit you on your lard arse, sales ****wit.
Mandatory collective bargaining means that you have to join the union
to get a
job and have to abide by the results of failures of that bargaining.


Wrong. As always.


Tell us which of these are not subject to this:
Pilots
Broadcast engineers
Teachers
Athletes.
Actors
Reporters


None of the above get no option on that **** you spewed.

reams of the puerile **** you'd expect from a pig ignorant ****wit thats
never managed anything better than sales ****wit flushed where it belongs


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Rod Speed wrote


George Grapman wrote


Rod Speed wrote


You clearly wouldnt know what 'MANDATORY collective
bargaining' was if it bit you on your lard arse, sales ****wit.


Mandatory collective bargaining means that you have to join the union
to get a
job and have to abide by the results of failures of that bargaining.


Wrong. As always.


Tell us which of these are not subject to this:
Pilots
Broadcast engineers
Teachers
Athletes.
Actors
Reporters


None of the above get no option on that **** you spewed.


reams of the puerile **** you'd expect from a pig ignorant ****wit
thats
never managed anything better than sales ****wit flushed where it
belongs

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This about where Rod, faced with facts, whines "irrelevant" or
"bull****"

http://cf.alpa.org/internet/ab*out.html


http://www.nabet31.org/Content*.cfm?...&TID=32&Tier=1


http://www.uft.org/


http://mlbplayers.mlb.com/NASA*pp/mlb/pa/index.jsp


http://www.sag.org/sagWebApp/i*ndex.jsp


http://www.newsguild.org/missi*on/di...hp?storyID=902


Here is an easy one,little boy. List one person in any of the
following is not subject to a CBA:


Major league baseball player.
New York Times reporter.
NBC,CBS, ABC broadcast engineer
New York City public school teacher


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Some terminal sales ****wit claiming to be


George Grapman wrote in message


news the completely superfluous proof of why its never
ever managed anything better than sales ****wit.

Rod Speed, thanks for the backup- DeserTBob is a sickly, dying old man,
who spends his day cleaning up after 2 dogs, and lives in a cramped
suburban neighborhood just north of L.A., Ca. The guy has turds on his
mind, he's always talking about dog turds here- because he has to pick
up and dispose of his dog's **** daily- it's the law out there in
Californicate. What a ****ed up state that is !

power bump !

On 18 Jun 2005 05:21:09 -0700, "tripping28track"
wrote:

Rod Speed, thanks for the backup snip

He's not "backing you up," you moron. He's just another brainless
Usenet troll, like yourself, who talks a lot about things he knows
nothing about.

On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:12:01 GMT, Rod Slow
wrote:

Here is the exchange about collective bargaining:

snipping some junk

The "happy people" also should be paid a good wage, with good
benefits, including a good pension, and the only way to get that from
rich assholes and their sycophants like Ida is to force it with
mandatory
collective bargaining. People like Ida would have everyone working
16 hrs a day for a buck a day, like it was in the US prior to 1900!

agree

I dont on the 'mandatory collective bargaining'

The professions have never done it like that and they
manage decent wages, good benefits/pensions etc anyway. snip

Bull****. Many physicians belong to SEIU. Many professional
engineers belong to OPIEU and many independent associations whose
function falls under the Wagner Act. What about ALL pro sports
players? What about all professional actors, both on stage and on
screen, as well as TV? What about....

Wonder which of the following Rod does not consider to be a profession:

Teachers,writers, nurses, airline pilots, broadcast engineers, movie
editors,surveyors and, last but not least, professional athletes. snip

You covered it.

Guess bowel boy never heard of SEIU,CNA,AFSCME,UFT,AFM,AEA,SA*G to
name
a few.
Please quote my message in your replies so he will , again, go into a
tirade when shown to be wrong. snip

Rod Speed appears to be another one like Noodles...low IQ, low
education, chronic underachiever whose life has been full of low wage,
no benefit jobs. When they see others who are smart enough to
understand the value of collective bargaining making more, they get
jealous and want to do away with unions. I've seen it for decades,
but the ignorance on labor issues in the US is now at an all time
high, aided and abetted by "Korporate Amerika's" agenda. The Bushies
are strong promoters of that agenda, too....just look at what a mess
the NRLB is now under them!

Sales? Your sales career would be shorter than your fast food career.
You could not even qualify as a customer of mine (they are all educated
decision makers who own or manage businesses). snip

A lot of "salesmen," (not retail clerks) are petty criminals anyway,
and short themselves thinking they'll "hit it rich" by screwing a
single customer. In this catagory are realtors and car salesmen, two
of the lowest forms of life on the planet.

There's something good about doing a job well, getting superior wage
and benefits for it that are guaranteed by contract and force of law,
and not screwing people to make a commission. There's something
better about having an organization behind you that'll back you up
when an employer gets delusions of grandeur and thinks they're above
the law...which is often. I have the case files to prove it.

dB
Retired after:
Organizer - Laborers International
Steward - Int'l Brotherhood of Teamsters
Steward - Nat'l Association of Broadcast Employees and Technicians
Assistant District Rep - Int'l Brotherhood of Electrical Workers
Local Executive Vice President - Communications Workers of America

DeserTBoB wrote in message
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The "happy people" also should be paid a good wage, with good
benefits, including a good pension, and the only way to get that from
rich assholes and their sycophants like Ida is to force it with mandatory
collective bargaining. People like Ida would have everyone working
16 hrs a day for a buck a day, like it was in the US prior to 1900!

agree

I dont on the 'mandatory collective bargaining'

The professions have never done it like that and they
manage decent wages, good benefits/pensions etc anyway.

Bull****.

Yep, you've always been full of that.

Many physicians belong to SEIU.

Pity that doesnt involve MANDATORY COLLECTIVE BARGAINING.

Many professional engineers belong to OPIEU

Pity that doesnt involve MANDATORY COLLECTIVE BARGAINING.

Reams of even sillier **** flushed where it belongs.

On 18 Jun 2005 06:51:20 -0700, "trippingtoo8track"
wrote:

power bump ! snip

Bump this, ****head.