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Old March 18th 11, 04:03 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
ilico ilico is offline
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Default Monaco on French Colony.

On Mar 18, 2:45*pm, ilico wrote:
On Mar 15, 10:44*am, "rod222" wrote:

A query from a colleague


This stamp is France 1879 25c. The pmk is 18 nov 1883 Monaco. The CV as
French single is about 3 Eur used. Is this French or Monaco? Bw. 1860-1886
french stamps were used in Monaco. Are French stamps with Monaco pmk valued
separately?


This stamp is France 1879 25c. The pmk is 18 nov 1883 Monaco. The CV as
French single is about 3 Eur used. Is this French or Monaco? Bw. 1860-1886
french stamps were used in Monaco. Are French stamps with Monaco pmk valued
separately?


http://cjoint.com/data1/1dplRJgMddx.htm


Hi Rod,

Monaco used Sardinia stamps 1851 - 1860, French 1860 - 1885, and
started his own "Prince Charles III" stamps from 1885.
There is a page from "Yvert & Tellier Stamp Classiques Du Monde
2005" (sorry not very good scan)

http://cjoint.com/?2dspLve7BHo

You need to recognise first are your stamps Type I or Type II?
There is No: 78a - se-tenant of both Types - very expensive. Hope
you've got this
In this catalogue there is nothing about cancels.

Hope this helps a little bit

Tommy


to add some more. in my view this is Mi78 - 3.20EUR

http://cjoint.com/?2dsqapdyLs

and

http://cjoint.com/?2dsqb5yWHgk

info from "Michel-Europa-Katalog Band 2 2009 Südwesteuropa"

Tommy
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Old March 18th 11, 04:48 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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Default Monaco on French Colony.

On Mar 18, 2:45*pm, ilico wrote:
On Mar 15, 10:44*am, "rod222" wrote:

A query from a colleague


This stamp is France 1879 25c. The pmk is 18 nov 1883 Monaco. The CV as
French single is about 3 Eur used. Is this French or Monaco? Bw. 1860-1886
french stamps were used in Monaco. Are French stamps with Monaco pmk valued
separately?


This stamp is France 1879 25c. The pmk is 18 nov 1883 Monaco. The CV as
French single is about 3 Eur used. Is this French or Monaco? Bw. 1860-1886
french stamps were used in Monaco. Are French stamps with Monaco pmk valued
separately?


http://cjoint.com/data1/1dplRJgMddx.htm


Hi Rod,

Monaco used Sardinia stamps 1851 - 1860, French 1860 - 1885, and
started his own "Prince Charles III" stamps from 1885.
There is a page from "Yvert & Tellier Stamp Classiques Du Monde
2005" (sorry not very good scan)

http://cjoint.com/?2dspLve7BHo

You need to recognise first are your stamps Type I or Type II?
There is No: 78a - se-tenant of both Types - very expensive. Hope
you've got this
In this catalogue there is nothing about cancels.

Hope this helps a little bit

Tommy


SG shows the 25c bistre on yellow, wherever cancelled, only for Type
II ("N under U"), and but if Rodney has Type I ("N under B"), ...!

BTW, despite the title of this thread, the stamp is of France proper,
_not_ French Colonies, which would be imperf.

Chris
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Old March 18th 11, 05:33 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Droger Jean-Paul
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Default Monaco on French Colony.


SG shows the 25c bistre on yellow, wherever cancelled, only for Type
II ("N under U"), and but if Rodney has Type I ("N under B"), ...!



in France too, it exist only one type of 25c bistre on yellow and it is
type II, the value comes not from stamp but only from cancellation!!


BTW, despite the title of this thread, the stamp is of France proper,
_not_ French Colonies, which would be imperf.


Yes, but for for French Post offices abroad (in foreign countries) the
"France proper" stamps , that is to say perforated stamps have been
used, I have some from Turquey French Post offices, Egyt also!; you can
also found such stamps with colonies cancellations, that are rarities,
I have not one in my collection!

--
Pour m'envoyer un mail, remplacer anti par droger et manama par
wanadoo; to send me directly a mail replace anti with droger and manama
with wanadoo;



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Old March 19th 11, 06:14 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
rod222
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Default Monaco on French Colony.


Thankyou Tommy,
Do Michel produce a catalogue in English?
Rod




Hi Rod,

Monaco used Sardinia stamps 1851 - 1860, French 1860 - 1885, and
started his own "Prince Charles III" stamps from 1885.
There is a page from "Yvert & Tellier Stamp Classiques Du Monde
2005" (sorry not very good scan)

http://cjoint.com/?2dspLve7BHo

You need to recognise first are your stamps Type I or Type II?
There is No: 78a - se-tenant of both Types - very expensive. Hope
you've got this
In this catalogue there is nothing about cancels.

Hope this helps a little bit

Tommy


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Old March 19th 11, 06:17 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
rod222
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Default Monaco on French Colony.



Again,
Thank you very much Tommy,
I'll have to download to digest this.

to add some more. in my view this is Mi78 - 3.20EUR

http://cjoint.com/?2dsqapdyLs

and

http://cjoint.com/?2dsqb5yWHgk

info from "Michel-Europa-Katalog Band 2 2009 Südwesteuropa"

Tommy


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Old March 19th 11, 06:19 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
rod222
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Default Monaco on French Colony.


Yes, thanks Chris,
just hang on whilst I cut the perfs off.


SG shows the 25c bistre on yellow, wherever cancelled, only for Type
II ("N under U"), and but if Rodney has Type I ("N under B"), ...!

BTW, despite the title of this thread, the stamp is of France proper,
_not_ French Colonies, which would be imperf.

Chris


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Old March 19th 11, 06:21 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
rod222
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Default Monaco on French Colony.



Yes of course, see Chris, I was correct! (wink)
this is advanced philately, that is, beyond the catalogue.


"Droger Jean-Paul" wrote in message
...

SG shows the 25c bistre on yellow, wherever cancelled, only for Type
II ("N under U"), and but if Rodney has Type I ("N under B"), ...!



in France too, it exist only one type of 25c bistre on yellow and it is
type II, the value comes not from stamp but only from cancellation!!


BTW, despite the title of this thread, the stamp is of France proper,
_not_ French Colonies, which would be imperf.


Yes, but for for French Post offices abroad (in foreign countries) the
"France proper" stamps , that is to say perforated stamps have been used,
I have some from Turquey French Post offices, Egyt also!; you can also
found such stamps with colonies cancellations, that are rarities, I have
not one in my collection!

--
Pour m'envoyer un mail, remplacer anti par droger et manama par wanadoo;
to send me directly a mail replace anti with droger and manama with
wanadoo;





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Old March 19th 11, 01:49 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Peter Buder
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Default Monaco on French Colony.

Am 19.03.2011 06:14, schrieb rod222:
Thankyou Tommy,
Do Michel produce a catalogue in English?
Rod




Hi Rod,

Monaco used Sardinia stamps 1851 - 1860, French 1860 - 1885, and
started his own "Prince Charles III" stamps from 1885.
There is a page from "Yvert& Tellier Stamp Classiques Du Monde
2005" (sorry not very good scan)

http://cjoint.com/?2dspLve7BHo

You need to recognise first are your stamps Type I or Type II?
There is No: 78a - se-tenant of both Types - very expensive. Hope
you've got this
In this catalogue there is nothing about cancels.

Hope this helps a little bit

Tommy


Hi Rod.

Have a look he

http://www.schaubek.de/shop.php?id=3...18&group_id_4=







Peter
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Old March 19th 11, 01:49 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
ilico ilico is offline
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Default Monaco on French Colony.

On Mar 19, 5:14*am, "rod222" wrote:
Thankyou Tommy,
Do Michel produce a catalogue in English?
Rod



Hi Rod,

I don't think so

I use http://translate.google.com for translations.

Tommy
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Old March 19th 11, 09:37 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
rod222
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Default Monaco on French Colony.

Hi Pete,
thanks very much.

"Peter Buder"
Have a look he

http://www.schaubek.de/shop.php?id=3...18&group_id_4=
Peter



 




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