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I'm trying to ascertain the value of a small book that's been in our
family 'forever'. It's "Relapse, or Virtue in Danger' by Sir John Vanbrugh. Printed 1735. Anyone any ideas who I might ask about this item? Cheers, Mark |
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http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/Sear...2 &ds=30&x=70
"Mark Tandy" wrote in message newsp.ts0hrqgkqoqtg1@pretty-22ms668m... I'm trying to ascertain the value of a small book that's been in our family 'forever'. It's "Relapse, or Virtue in Danger' by Sir John Vanbrugh. Printed 1735. Anyone any ideas who I might ask about this item? Cheers, Mark |
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foaddoc wrote:
http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/Sear...2 &ds=30&x=70 "Mark Tandy" wrote in message newsp.ts0hrqgkqoqtg1@pretty-22ms668m... I'm trying to ascertain the value of a small book that's been in our family 'forever'. It's "Relapse, or Virtue in Danger' by Sir John Vanbrugh. Printed 1735. Anyone any ideas who I might ask about this item? Cheers, Mark What an awful selection. Most if not all of them are disbound or rebound with other books. A better selection, with books in very good condition and not rebound, can be found at: http://used.addall.com/SuperRare/sub...lio&store=ZVAB To the original poster, condition matters enormously in determining the price of a piece like this. Francis A. Miniter |
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Francis A. Miniter wrote:
condition matters enormously in determining the price of a piece like this. As well as edition, of course. The OP's edition isn't the first edition, and won't fetch four figures (like some of the copies on AddaLL) or anywhere near. There aren't any comparable editions of this play on ABE or AddaLL (everything seems to be either about forty years earlier or forty years later), but you might try searching in both places for Vanbrugh's works in general. There are some silly prices (a Penguin paperback edition of four Vanbrugh plays for over $200; things like this sometimes result from a misplaced decimal point in the listing), and the relatively high prices for The Provok'd Husband (1728) need to be seen in light of the fact that it was polished up after his death and 1728 is actually the first edition. I would say you could probably get some sense of what your volume might be worth by comparing it with the following: http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/Sear...=14&ds=30&x=59 (http://tinyurl.com/2jaqbu) Francis is right, and condition will be the main thing determining whether it is at the higher or lower end of that spectrum. John |
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Thanks Francis. Input appreciated.
Mark On Tue, 29 May 2007 00:36:19 +1000, Francis A. Miniter wrote: foaddoc wrote: http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/Sear...2 &ds=30&x=70 "Mark Tandy" wrote in message newsp.ts0hrqgkqoqtg1@pretty-22ms668m... I'm trying to ascertain the value of a small book that's been in our family 'forever'. It's "Relapse, or Virtue in Danger' by Sir John Vanbrugh. Printed 1735. Anyone any ideas who I might ask about this item? Cheers, Mark What an awful selection. Most if not all of them are disbound or rebound with other books. A better selection, with books in very good condition and not rebound, can be found at: http://used.addall.com/SuperRare/sub...lio&store=ZVAB To the original poster, condition matters enormously in determining the price of a piece like this. Francis A. Miniter -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ |
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Thanks John. Input appreciated.
Mark On Tue, 29 May 2007 06:38:33 +1000, John R. Yamamoto-Wilson wrote: Francis A. Miniter wrote: condition matters enormously in determining the price of a piece like this. As well as edition, of course. The OP's edition isn't the first edition, and won't fetch four figures (like some of the copies on AddaLL) or anywhere near. There aren't any comparable editions of this play on ABE or AddaLL (everything seems to be either about forty years earlier or forty years later), but you might try searching in both places for Vanbrugh's works in general. There are some silly prices (a Penguin paperback edition of four Vanbrugh plays for over $200; things like this sometimes result from a misplaced decimal point in the listing), and the relatively high prices for The Provok'd Husband (1728) need to be seen in light of the fact that it was polished up after his death and 1728 is actually the first edition. I would say you could probably get some sense of what your volume might be worth by comparing it with the following: http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/Sear...=14&ds=30&x=59 (http://tinyurl.com/2jaqbu) Francis is right, and condition will be the main thing determining whether it is at the higher or lower end of that spectrum. John -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ |
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Hi John,
How can we tell what edition we have and what is 'the OP's edition'? Cheers, Mark On Tue, 29 May 2007 08:23:10 +1000, Mark Tandy wrote: Thanks John. Input appreciated. Mark On Tue, 29 May 2007 06:38:33 +1000, John R. Yamamoto-Wilson wrote: Francis A. Miniter wrote: condition matters enormously in determining the price of a piece like this. As well as edition, of course. The OP's edition isn't the first edition, and won't fetch four figures (like some of the copies on AddaLL) or anywhere near. There aren't any comparable editions of this play on ABE or AddaLL (everything seems to be either about forty years earlier or forty years later), but you might try searching in both places for Vanbrugh's works in general. There are some silly prices (a Penguin paperback edition of four Vanbrugh plays for over $200; things like this sometimes result from a misplaced decimal point in the listing), and the relatively high prices for The Provok'd Husband (1728) need to be seen in light of the fact that it was polished up after his death and 1728 is actually the first edition. I would say you could probably get some sense of what your volume might be worth by comparing it with the following: http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/Sear...=14&ds=30&x=59 (http://tinyurl.com/2jaqbu) Francis is right, and condition will be the main thing determining whether it is at the higher or lower end of that spectrum. John -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ |
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Mark Tandy wrote:
How can we tell what edition we have Well, you seem to know the year. Can you find the publisher? That information is usually given on what's called the colophon page, which is generally at the front of the book, often on the reverse side of the title page. However, 18th century books often give all those details on the title page itself. what is 'the OP's edition'? That's the one you've got; you are the OP (original poster) in this thread. Many books of that period have a complicated printing history (there are often separate editions for Ireland and Scotland, for example, and books may be reprinted by separate publishers over a period of years), so it may not always be possible to say that your copy is the 27th edition, for example, or the 35th. The main thing is to find out when the first edition was published. You can usually get that from ABE or AddaLL listings or from library catalogues. Here is a good metacatalogue, that gives library listings for a large number of libraries: http://www.vialibri.net/library_search.php Once you've established that the book in question is or isn't a first edition you can start comparing with other books of the same type. An 18th century reprint edition of a 17th century play will compare with other similar reprint editions. If you can find one of comparable type in comparable condition to yours listed on ABE or AddaLL then at least you know what one dealer is asking for something that is in the same ballpark as what you have in your hands. That isn't always 100% helpful, though; another dealer might ask a different price and, anyway, these are *asking* prices; they might not actually sell at that price. Also, these are dealers' prices and you are not a dealer. Your best chance of realising anything approaching dealers' prices is probably eBay. Take a look there, too, and see what kinds of prices comparable works are fetching. John |
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Thanks again John for sharing your time, effort and knowledge.
Mark On Tue, 29 May 2007 09:13:41 +1000, John R. Yamamoto-Wilson wrote: Mark Tandy wrote: How can we tell what edition we have Well, you seem to know the year. Can you find the publisher? That information is usually given on what's called the colophon page, which is generally at the front of the book, often on the reverse side of the title page. However, 18th century books often give all those details on the title page itself. what is 'the OP's edition'? That's the one you've got; you are the OP (original poster) in this thread. Many books of that period have a complicated printing history (there are often separate editions for Ireland and Scotland, for example, and books may be reprinted by separate publishers over a period of years), so it may not always be possible to say that your copy is the 27th edition, for example, or the 35th. The main thing is to find out when the first edition was published. You can usually get that from ABE or AddaLL listings or from library catalogues. Here is a good metacatalogue, that gives library listings for a large number of libraries: http://www.vialibri.net/library_search.php Once you've established that the book in question is or isn't a first edition you can start comparing with other books of the same type. An 18th century reprint edition of a 17th century play will compare with other similar reprint editions. If you can find one of comparable type in comparable condition to yours listed on ABE or AddaLL then at least you know what one dealer is asking for something that is in the same ballpark as what you have in your hands. That isn't always 100% helpful, though; another dealer might ask a different price and, anyway, these are *asking* prices; they might not actually sell at that price. Also, these are dealers' prices and you are not a dealer. Your best chance of realising anything approaching dealers' prices is probably eBay. Take a look there, too, and see what kinds of prices comparable works are fetching. John -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ |
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