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Poland 1996 Zodiac definitives - uv question
Under both s/w and l/w uv light these flouresce ( no afterglow ).
However the flourescence appears to be EITHER yellow OR white. - the 1zl on both, 10gr on white, and the remainder on yellow. However I only have 7 stamps in total, so it is hardly a scientific conclusion. However one of the stamps appears on a pale yellow rather than bright yellow coated paper ( long wave is best for viewing this) which leads me to believe that the white flourescence might be a leaching problem.Regrettably I have no stamps on paper to play with in this respect. Is it possible for the yellow to be leached out and still leave an equally "bright" white flourescence? Does anyone have any further knowledge of this phenomenon - or better still experience or knowledge of this issue in particular? Perhaps Rein might have some ideas ? malcolm |
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Poland 1996 Zodiac definitives - uv question
malcolm wrote:
Under both s/w and l/w uv light these flouresce ( no afterglow ). However the flourescence appears to be EITHER yellow OR white. - the 1zl on both, 10gr on white, and the remainder on yellow. However I only have 7 stamps in total, so it is hardly a scientific conclusion. However one of the stamps appears on a pale yellow rather than bright yellow coated paper ( long wave is best for viewing this) which leads me to believe that the white flourescence might be a leaching problem.Regrettably I have no stamps on paper to play with in this respect. Is it possible for the yellow to be leached out and still leave an equally "bright" white flourescence? Does anyone have any further knowledge of this phenomenon - or better still experience or knowledge of this issue in particular? Perhaps Rein might have some ideas ? Those Polish definitives are a handful. The Scott catalogue lists a couple of the fluorescent paper (yellow glow) designs as being water-soluble, the Michel catalogue says they all are. I've had some of them soak the design off very quickly. My 2007 Fischer specialized catalogue lists 13 different printing, paper, gum and fluorescence varieties - some designs come in as many as 7 different varieties. As an aside, I have to say that among all the different attempts at zodiac stamps that have been issued, these Polish designs are my favourites. Ryan |
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Poland 1996 Zodiac definitives - uv question
Malcolm,
I have written an article about it sometime ago and put it on the internet: http://www.galeoptix.nl/fila/zodiak.htm and following .... The early Zodiak [1996] have only OBA's, from February 1997 the yellow fluorescence got introduced. In at least 2 versions - the local paper having also the yellow at the back and the Tullis Russell paper with only yellow fluoresence at the front. Later Harrison & Sons replaced TR with a rather matt surface at the front of the stamps; eventually TR took over again after the demise of H&S. Incidentally local Polish paper got used - very scarce! groetjes, Rein Op Sat, 09 Jan 2010 08:46:35 +0100 schreef malcolm : Under both s/w and l/w uv light these flouresce ( no afterglow ). However the flourescence appears to be EITHER yellow OR white. - the 1zl on both, 10gr on white, and the remainder on yellow. However I only have 7 stamps in total, so it is hardly a scientific conclusion. However one of the stamps appears on a pale yellow rather than bright yellow coated paper ( long wave is best for viewing this) which leads me to believe that the white flourescence might be a leaching problem.Regrettably I have no stamps on paper to play with in this respect. Is it possible for the yellow to be leached out and still leave an equally "bright" white flourescence? Does anyone have any further knowledge of this phenomenon - or better still experience or knowledge of this issue in particular? Perhaps Rein might have some ideas ? malcolm -- Gemaakt met Opera's revolutionaire e-mailprogramma: http://www.opera.com/mail/ |
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Poland 1996 Zodiac definitives - uv question
Ryan,
Fischer took the idea of the papers from a publication by Bronislaw Rejnowski, but completely messed it up !!! Adam Kielbasa and I published a new report some years ago in Przeglad Filatelistyczny [published by Fischer] groetjes, Rein Op Sat, 09 Jan 2010 16:27:17 +0100 schreef Ryan Davenport : malcolm wrote: Under both s/w and l/w uv light these flouresce ( no afterglow ). However the flourescence appears to be EITHER yellow OR white. - the 1zl on both, 10gr on white, and the remainder on yellow. However I only have 7 stamps in total, so it is hardly a scientific conclusion. However one of the stamps appears on a pale yellow rather than bright yellow coated paper ( long wave is best for viewing this) which leads me to believe that the white flourescence might be a leaching problem.Regrettably I have no stamps on paper to play with in this respect. Is it possible for the yellow to be leached out and still leave an equally "bright" white flourescence? Does anyone have any further knowledge of this phenomenon - or better still experience or knowledge of this issue in particular? Perhaps Rein might have some ideas ? Those Polish definitives are a handful. The Scott catalogue lists a couple of the fluorescent paper (yellow glow) designs as being water-soluble, the Michel catalogue says they all are. I've had some of them soak the design off very quickly. My 2007 Fischer specialized catalogue lists 13 different printing, paper, gum and fluorescence varieties - some designs come in as many as 7 different varieties. As an aside, I have to say that among all the different attempts at zodiac stamps that have been issued, these Polish designs are my favourites. Ryan -- Gemaakt met Opera's revolutionaire e-mailprogramma: http://www.opera.com/mail/ |
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Poland 1996 Zodiac definitives - uv question
Rein wrote:
Ryan, Fischer took the idea of the papers from a publication by Bronislaw Rejnowski, but completely messed it up !!! Adam Kielbasa and I published a new report some years ago in Przeglad Filatelistyczny [published by Fischer] OK, I will look at your website and find some better information! Ryan |
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Poland 1996 Zodiac definitives - uv question
I would have to agree,
immediately recognisable, the guy looking through the keyhole instantly arouses curiosity. A raggedy old set of 10 months http://cjoint.com/data/bkoapjmSLM.htm "Ryan Davenport" Those Polish definitives are a handful. The Scott catalogue lists a couple of the fluorescent paper (yellow glow) designs as being water-soluble, the Michel catalogue says they all are. I've had some of them soak the design off very quickly. My 2007 Fischer specialized catalogue lists 13 different printing, paper, gum and fluorescence varieties - some designs come in as many as 7 different varieties. As an aside, I have to say that among all the different attempts at zodiac stamps that have been issued, these Polish designs are my favourites. Ryan |
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Poland 1996 Zodiac definitives - uv question
Rodney,
10 months of Zodiac???? You missed the 70g and the 5zł .... http://www.galeoptix.nl/fila/zodiak.htm groetjes, Rein Op Sun, 10 Jan 2010 13:03:52 +0100 schreef rodney iprimus.com.au "pookiethai"@NOSPAM: I would have to agree, immediately recognisable, the guy looking through the keyhole instantly arouses curiosity. A raggedy old set of 10 months http://cjoint.com/data/bkoapjmSLM.htm "Ryan Davenport" Those Polish definitives are a handful. The Scott catalogue lists a couple of the fluorescent paper (yellow glow) designs as being water-soluble, the Michel catalogue says they all are. I've had some of them soak the design off very quickly. My 2007 Fischer specialized catalogue lists 13 different printing, paper, gum and fluorescence varieties - some designs come in as many as 7 different varieties. As an aside, I have to say that among all the different attempts at zodiac stamps that have been issued, these Polish designs are my favourites. Ryan -- Gemaakt met Opera's revolutionaire e-mailprogramma: http://www.opera.com/mail/ |
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Poland 1996 Zodiac definitives - uv question
Thanks all
I will have to bookmark Rein's dissertation. I had noticed more than one shade of yellow flourescence on the few stamps I have, but I wasn't going to go there!! The problem is that with only a very few stamps it is difficult to actually make any serious study. I haven't yet examined the back. I have to say that I think that modern Polish stamps are quite well designed and produced, much better than the wallpaper of the Communist period. The only Eastern European countries that got it right in the Communist area were Czechoslovakia - and to a lesser extent Hungary. Thanks again Malcolm On Jan 10, 2:50Â*pm, Rein wrote: Rodney, 10 months of Zodiac???? You missed the 70g and the 5zÅ‚ .... http://www.galeoptix.nl/fila/zodiak.htm groetjes, Rein Op Sun, 10 Jan 2010 13:03:52 +0100 schreef rodney iprimus.com.au Â* "pookiethai"@NOSPAM: I would have to agree, immediately recognisable, the guy looking through the keyhole instantly arouses curiosity. A raggedy old set of 10 months http://cjoint.com/data/bkoapjmSLM.htm "Ryan Davenport" Â* Â* Those Polish definitives are a handful. Â*The Scott catalogue lists Â* a couple of the fluorescent paper (yellow glow) designs as being water-soluble, the Michel catalogue says they all Â* are. Â*I've had some of them soak the design off very quickly. Â*My 2007 Fischer specialized catalogue lists 13 different Â* printing, paper, gum and fluorescence varieties - some designs come in as many as 7 different varieties. Â* Â* As an aside, I have to say that among all the different attempts at Â* zodiac stamps that have been issued, these Polish designs are my favourites. Â* Â* Ryan -- Gemaakt met Opera's revolutionaire e-mailprogramma: Â*http://www.opera.com/mail/ |
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Poland 1996 Zodiac definitives - uv question
malcolm wrote:
I will have to bookmark Rein's dissertation. I had noticed more than one shade of yellow flourescence on the few stamps I have, but I wasn't going to go there!! The problem is that with only a very few stamps it is difficult to actually make any serious study. I haven't yet examined the back. A couple of years ago I came across the "5 lbs of Polish stamps for $10" kind of lot. The picture showed lots of the zodiac definitives, so I bit and now I have a massive pile of Polish stamps to work through, as soon as I finish with all the other massive piles of stuff. ha ha I have to say that I think that modern Polish stamps are quite well designed and produced, much better than the wallpaper of the Communist period. The only Eastern European countries that got it right in the Communist area were Czechoslovakia - and to a lesser extent Hungary. Agreed there, I love the engraved stamps. The Czech Republic and Slovakia have continued to commonly issue engraved commemorative stamps over the past 10 years - Sweden has been a good source of them as well, but not too many other countries come to mind. Ryan |
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