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Uruguay ~ stamp missing.
A postcard from Uruguay 1902
From Mercedes to Bremen. I just noticed a stamp missing, any guess as to what would have been its value? http://cjoint.com/data/grqewFiujT.htm Interesting note: Printed by Waterlow and Sons, address........."London Wall" London. Emperor Trajan in front of "London Wall" http://cjoint.com/data/grqg0hy88Z.htm |
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Uruguay ~ stamp missing.
Hi Rodney,
Look at the lower left of the imprint. I believe it is 20 centisimos. Jerry B |
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Uruguay ~ stamp missing.
OOPS, typo
Centesimos. It is hard to read under the cancel. I do not think it is Milesimos. Jerry B |
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Uruguay ~ stamp missing.
Hi Jerry.
The pre-printed stamp is indeed 2 centésimos but I think what Rodney is after is the missing stamp below it. One can see the square corner in the cancellation over the missing stamp. The missing stamp would be the rate at the time from Uruguay to Germany less 2 cents. -- Tony Vella Ottawa, Ontario, Canada -- http://www.amedialuz.ca/ "jerry" wrote in message ... OOPS, typo Centesimos. It is hard to read under the cancel. I do not think it is Milesimos. Jerry B |
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Uruguay ~ stamp missing.
On Jun 17, 12:54*pm, "Tony Vella" wrote:
Hi Jerry. The pre-printed stamp is indeed 2 centésimos but I think what Rodney is after is the missing stamp below it. *One can see the square corner in the cancellation over the missing stamp. * The missing stamp would be the rate at the time from Uruguay to Germany less 2 cents. -- Tony Vella Ottawa, Ontario, Canada --http://www.amedialuz.ca/ "jerry" wrote in message ... OOPS, typo Centesimos. *It is hard to read under the cancel. *I do not think it is Milesimos. Jerry B By 1902, both Uruguay and Germany were UPU members. Further, the Uruguay peso was on the Gold standard and kept a steady value until after WWI. There were about 4.7 pesos per pound sterling, putting the peso on a par with the US / Canadian $. Using US / Canadian UPU rates of 1902 as a guide, one might surmise that the UPU postcard rate in 1902 was 2 Centesimos (2c US / Canadian). I have seen the 2c rate on other Uruguay postcards of the period. I believe that Canadian postcards in 1902 were 1c for domestic and British Empire destinations and 2c for other countries. PC - Canada to France 2c http://www.cdncovers.com/790france08.jpg So far, so good. But, what about the other stamp? Well at one time there was a word limit on postcards. (5 words rings a bell.) If you went over the limit, then you paid the full letter rate. I believe the UPU letter rate at the time was 25 centimes (5c US / Canadian, 2.5 d sterling) which would be 5 Centesimos total in Uruguay. If so, 3c would have been added. Since the values at the time seem to have been 1/2c , 1c, 2, 5c, 7c, 10c etc... , I'm not aware of a 3c value, but a 1c and 2c could have been overlapped, if needed. In another scenario, here is a Western Australian PC to Mauritius (1902) at a rate of 2d (4 centesimos). http://www.philatelicdatabase.com/wp...tius-front.jpg If this were the UPU rate in 1902, then the amount to be added would be 2centisimos paid by one 2c stamp. Blair |
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Uruguay ~ stamp missing.
Wow! impressive Blair, philately at work
I shall assume 5c then. http://cjoint.com/data/gsaarxIvb7.htm When applying "make up" stamps you use the closest on hand. "Blair" So far, so good. But, what about the other stamp? Well at one time there was a word limit on postcards. (5 words rings a bell.) If you went over the limit, then you paid the full letter rate. I believe the UPU letter rate at the time was 25 centimes (5c US / Canadian, 2.5 d sterling) which would be 5 Centesimos total in Uruguay. If so, 3c would have been added. Since the values at the time seem to have been 1/2c , 1c, 2, 5c, 7c, 10c etc... , I'm not aware of a 3c value, but a 1c and 2c could have been overlapped, if needed. In another scenario, here is a Western Australian PC to Mauritius (1902) at a rate of 2d (4 centesimos). http://www.philatelicdatabase.com/wp...tius-front.jpg If this were the UPU rate in 1902, then the amount to be added would be 2centisimos paid by one 2c stamp. Blair |
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Uruguay ~ stamp missing.
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:23:12 -0700, Blair wrote:
Well at one time there was a word limit on postcards. (5 words rings a bell.) If you went over the limit, then you paid the full letter rate. I believe the UPU letter rate at the time was 25 centimes (5c US / Canadian, 2.5 d sterling) which would be 5 Centesimos total in Uruguay. If so, 3c would have been added. There is a fascinating bit of history about word limits -- not in philately, but in telegraphy. Because per-word costs were prevalent, some businesses distributed extensive codices to their offices. Telegraph messages of just a few words could be sent communicating complex ideas or business states if the maintainers of the codex had thought of the situation beforehand. In one story (discussed in Tom Standage's "The Victorian Internet" -- http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/3915769...=brief_results -- if I remember correctly) the telegraph operator made a single-character mistake, changing one word to another word, causing a business (investment?) error of several thousand (?) dollars. The business brought the telegraph company (AT&T?) to court for damages, and after a trial it was decided they were entitled to compensation, but only the cost of the erroneous message itself, or something like ten cents. If someone has a better memory or better reference library, feel free to expand on the details. -- Joshua H. McGee San Marino, Los Angeles, California, USA, Earth Member: APS, ATA, ISWSC, MBPC Trade?: http://www.mcgees.org/stamp-offers/ |
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