Sweden query.

I have been looking at this cinderella for 6 years now,
and no doubt, will be seeing it here and there
for years to come.

Anyone have any deeper information on the
details of the cancellation thereon?
I always remember it as the "Kropp cancellation"
where was it struck? and is there a date?
http://cjoint.com/data/hAfnGGB4Ju.htm


Thanks.

rodney schrieb:
I have been looking at this cinderella for 6 years now,
and no doubt, will be seeing it here and there
for years to come.

Anyone have any deeper information on the
details of the cancellation thereon?
I always remember it as the "Kropp cancellation"
where was it struck? and is there a date?
http://cjoint.com/data/hAfnGGB4Ju.htm


Thanks.





Hi Sir Rodney,

Your are just kidding, aren?t You?

You know this is the most expensive stamp of the world, the tre skilling
discolouration ( yellow instead of green).

Sold 8th November 1996 for 1.800.000 (one million eighthundredthousand )
Euro by David Feldmann S.A..

Google for "tre skilling banco" and You will find all information, I think.

Kind regards

gerhard

rodney schrieb:
I have been looking at this cinderella for 6 years now,
and no doubt, will be seeing it here and there
for years to come.

Anyone have any deeper information on the
details of the cancellation thereon?
I always remember it as the "Kropp cancellation"
where was it struck? and is there a date?
http://cjoint.com/data/hAfnGGB4Ju.htm


Thanks.




Just to an swer Your questions:

cancellation is (13 / 7 / 57) in Kopparsberget.

kind regrads

Gerhard

Hi Gerhard,
Thanks very much for that info.
No, I wasn't kidding, price does not, nor ever has, guaranteed authenticity,
there is still debate on its genuineness.
There never has been a certificate of such.
That aside, it still rates as an EFO anyhows, right?
BTW no disrespect intended, if that's how you read it.

I am confused with your word "discolouration", is it not an "error of
colour" as some would have it?
I googled "discolouration"
discolouration: the act of changing the natural color of something by making
it duller or dingier or unnatural or faded
is that what you intended?

"Gerhard Reichert"
Hi Sir Rodney,
Your are just kidding, aren?t You?
You know this is the most expensive stamp of the world, the tre skilling
discolouration ( yellow instead of green).
Sold 8th November 1996 for 1.800.000 (one million eighthundredthousand )
Euro by David Feldmann S.A..
Google for "tre skilling banco" and You will find all information, I think.
Kind regards
gerhard

On Jul 25, 11:17*pm, "rodney" pookiethai@NOSPAM iprimus.com.au
wrote:
I have been looking at this cinderella for 6 years now,
and no doubt, will be seeing it here and there
for years to come.

Anyone have any deeper information on the
details of the cancellation thereon?
I always remember it as the "Kropp cancellation"
where was it struck? and is there a date?http://cjoint.com/data/hAfnGGB4Ju.htm

Thanks.

Why a cinderella? It is a postally used stamp.

The cancellation is :
Nya Kopparberget 13 July 18(57)

now known as Kopparberg , Sweden.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kopparberg

Blair

Is it?
have any proof?


"Blair"
Why a cinderella? It is a postally used stamp.

The cancellation is :
Nya Kopparberget 13 July 18(57)

now known as Kopparberg , Sweden.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kopparberg

Blair

Hi Rodney,

as You know I am not an English native speaker. Of course it is an colour
error, not a discoloration.

I have only the German version of a short history of this stamp available:

http://www.bdph.de/kdb/fileadmin/PDF...n/skilling.pdf


The important part of this document is:

Eine im Handel mit klassischen Marken namhafte Firma, Frimärkshuset in
Stockholm, nahm sich dann wenig später der Streitfrage erneut an,
veranlasste umfangreiche Detailuntersuchungen mittels neuester Technologie
Röntgenstrahluntersuchungen ebenso wie andere technische Methoden wurden
einbezogen. Das umfangreiche Resultat zum Farbfehldruck lässt sich wie folgt
kurz zusammenfassen:

Das Papier ist das gleiche wie das bei Originalmarken benutzte. Die Marke
hat einen Einriss, besteht aber nicht aus verschiedenen Papiersorten. Die
Marke ist um 0,5mm kürzer, da sie am oberen Rand nachgezähnt wurde. Die
Farbe ist zu hundert Prozent die gleiche wie bei der 8sk- Marke. Die letzte
Teillieferung der 8sk-Marke war zur fraglichen Zeit in 200 Bögen gedruckt;
Nya Kopparberg wurde nachweislich mit 8sk-Marken aus diesem Vorrat
beliefert. Der Stempel ist zeitund ortsgerecht. Es liegt tatsächlich eine
Vergleichsmarke der 8sk vom gleichen Datum,

gestempelt in Halmstad vor (Halmstad wurde ebenfalls beliefert) und die
Markentönung ist absolut dentisch.4 Die Marke ist mittels eines Klischee von
der Originalmatrize gedruckt worden. Es findet sich auf ihr keine der
typischen Irrtumsmerkmale, die nur bei den späteren Reprints erscheinen.

Sven-Olof Forselius schloss das mehrseitige Gutachten mit dem Satz: "Nach
dem zuvor Aufgeführtem, ist es klar, dass es sich bei der 3sk.-Marken um
einen echten Farbfehldruck handelt" und die gesamte Dokumentation der
Geschichte und der Untersuchungen zur Marke wurde in einem luxuriös
gestalteten Buch 1975 veröffentlicht. Diesem Buch ist dann tatsächlich ein
Faksimilebogen beigegeben, der die 3sk grün, die 3sk mattorangegelb (das ist
nämlich die eigentliche Farbe) und die 8sk in ebenfalls der letztgenannten
Farbe enthält; diese sind alle rückseitig mit "1975" gekennzeichnet.



A short comprehension in English:

Original paper, original printing colour of the 8 skilling issue, original
plate, original cancellation, new perforation on top of the stamp.

It looks genuine :-)

kind regards from my office :-)



Gerhard

"Gerhard Reichert"
as You know I am not an English native speaker. Of course it is an colour
error, not a discoloration.

I thought so, just checking Gerhard



It looks genuine :-)

and it probably is,
1. reperforated,
2. only one
3. no cert of auth

Just healthy to keep an open mind
still exists as an EFO in my opinion.

"Gerhard Reichert" wrote
in message ...
I have only the German version of a short history of this stamp available:

http://www.bdph.de/kdb/fileadmin/PDF...n/skilling.pdf


"...1937 ging sie für 5.000 £ an den rumänischen König Carol I., um dann
erst einmal für längere Zeit in dessen Sammlung zu verschwinden." (in 1937
the stamp went to the King Carol I, etc).

The article is written by Wolfgang Maassen, the today president of the AIJP.
Even he can be sometimes wrong, because Carol I of Romania, original name
Prince Karl Eitel Friedrich Zephyrinus Ludwig of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen,
died in 1914.

It was the King Carol II, a known philatelist, who owned this renown stamp.

More on the tormented life of Carol II:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carol_II_of_Romania

--
Victor Manta, PWO, AIJP

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