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On May 24, 5:06�pm, Sir F. A. Rien wrote:
found these unused words:





On May 24, 9:31�am, Gerhard Reichert wrote:
schrieb:

On May 23, 3:16?am, Joshua McGee wrote:
Dontcha love faked covers? ?http://tr.im/mb10

--
Joshua H. McGee
Sierra Madre, Los Angeles, California, USA
Member: APS, ATA, ISWSC, MBPC
Trade?: ?http://www.mcgees.org/stamp-offers/
It is not a faked cover but it also was NOT flown. The amount of
postage - 40 cents - was insufficient postage for a cover on a
zeppelin flight. Second, the black (or blue) large X was a postal
marking indicating the cover was not given air mail service.

Hi Roy,

thank You for the information about the big "X" and the insufficiant
postage for a Zeppelin flight from USA. Have You any link whre I can
find more information about this? Thank You in advance

Gerhard

I am correcting myself - the postage rate of 40 cents may have been
correct for a single letter from the US to Germany. I am still
researching the rate. However, the black X indicates to me that it was
not flown - most probably because it arrived too late for the flight.
This marking is frequently encountered on air mail that was not flown,
or partially was flown (jus'qua) and continued on to destination by
surface.

A website for Zeppelin information I recommend is:www.ezep.de. Site
is both in German and English.

The Zeppelin flights USA to Germany, were $1.35 for a letter and $0.65 for a
post card - Lakehurst to Freiedrichshafen.

I believe that at that time 5� was the normal ship charge to Europe.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Please see this 1936 cover (front and reverse shown) currently on eBay
that has been flown via zeppelin with 40 cents in U.S. postage. I have
provided a direct link - http://tinyurl.com/r82p8u

schrieb:
On May 24, 3:05ï¿œam, Joshua McGee wrote:
On May 23, 9:00ï¿œpm, wrote:

*snip*


The other item missing from the cover would be a Zeppelin cachet. This
may be on the reverse, but if so, it would normally be to the sellers
advantage to show it.

The other cover you show also does not show a Zeppelin cachet. It is
rare for any flown zeppelin cover not to have the flight cachet on it,
too.

The Sieger Zeppelin catalogue mentions, that for the US mail sent to
Europe no special cachet or cancellation was used, so a missing cachet
or stamp is ok for this flight.

The rearside could only show a German arrival postmark of
Friedrichshafen, where the Zeppelin landed.

kind regards

Gerhard

On May 25, 10:48�am, Sir F. A. Rien wrote:
found these unused words:





On May 24, 5:06?pm, Sir F. A. Rien wrote:
found these unused words:

On May 24, 9:31?am, Gerhard Reichert wrote:
schrieb:

On May 23, 3:16?am, Joshua McGee wrote:
Dontcha love faked covers? ?http://tr.im/mb10

--
Joshua H. McGee
Sierra Madre, Los Angeles, California, USA
Member: APS, ATA, ISWSC, MBPC
Trade?: ?http://www.mcgees.org/stamp-offers/
It is not a faked cover but it also was NOT flown. The amount of
postage - 40 cents - was insufficient postage for a cover on a
zeppelin flight. Second, the black (or blue) large X was a postal
marking indicating the cover was not given air mail service.

Hi Roy,

thank You for the information about the big "X" and the insufficiant
postage for a Zeppelin flight from USA. Have You any link whre I can
find more information about this? Thank You in advance

Gerhard

I am correcting myself - the postage rate of 40 cents may have been
correct for a single letter from the US to Germany. I am still
researching the rate. However, the black X indicates to me that it was
not flown - most probably because it arrived too late for the flight.
This marking is frequently encountered on air mail that was not flown,
or partially was flown (jus'qua) and continued on to destination by
surface.

A website for Zeppelin information I recommend is:www.ezep.de. Site
is both in German and English.

The Zeppelin flights USA to Germany, were $1.35 for a letter and $0.65 for a
post card - Lakehurst to Freiedrichshafen.

I believe that at that time 5? was the normal ship charge to Europe.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Please see this 1936 cover (front and reverse shown) currently on eBay
that has been flown via zeppelin with 40 cents in U.S. postage. I have
provided a direct link -http://tinyurl.com/r82p8u

According to Konweiser "American Stamp Collector's Dictionary" this would
have not been the proper charge.

See his entry for "Zeppelin".

http://stamps.shop.ebay.ca/stores/Publications-Supplies__W0QQLHQ5fSel...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

According to U.S. International Postage Rates by Beecher and
Waurukiewicz, in May 1936 the U.S. rate for a one-half ounce letter
via the Hindenburg from Lakehurst, NJ to Germany was 40 cents. The
book also contains a table listing quite a number of different rates
for zeppelin mail from the U.S. during the period when such mail was
flown.

On May 25, 9:08*pm, wrote:
I am correcting myself - the postage rate of 40 cents may have been
correct for a single letter from the US to Germany. I am still
researching the rate. However, the black X indicates to me that it was
not flown - most probably because it arrived too late for the flight.

On May 26, 10:17�am, Sir F. A. Rien wrote:
found these unused words:





On May 25, 10:48?am, Sir F. A. Rien wrote:
found these unused words:

On May 24, 5:06?pm, Sir F. A. Rien wrote:
found these unused words:

On May 24, 9:31?am, Gerhard Reichert wrote:
schrieb:

On May 23, 3:16?am, Joshua McGee wrote:
Dontcha love faked covers? ?http://tr.im/mb10

--
Joshua H. McGee
Sierra Madre, Los Angeles, California, USA
Member: APS, ATA, ISWSC, MBPC
Trade?: ?http://www.mcgees.org/stamp-offers/
It is not a faked cover but it also was NOT flown. The amount of
postage - 40 cents - was insufficient postage for a cover on a
zeppelin flight. Second, the black (or blue) large X was a postal
marking indicating the cover was not given air mail service.

Hi Roy,

thank You for the information about the big "X" and the insufficiant
postage for a Zeppelin flight from USA. Have You any link whre I can
find more information about this? Thank You in advance

Gerhard

I am correcting myself - the postage rate of 40 cents may have been
correct for a single letter from the US to Germany. I am still
researching the rate. However, the black X indicates to me that it was
not flown - most probably because it arrived too late for the flight.
This marking is frequently encountered on air mail that was not flown,
or partially was flown (jus'qua) and continued on to destination by
surface.

A website for Zeppelin information I recommend is:www.ezep.de. Site
is both in German and English.

The Zeppelin flights USA to Germany, were $1.35 for a letter and $0..65 for a
post card - Lakehurst to Freiedrichshafen.

I believe that at that time 5? was the normal ship charge to Europe..- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Please see this 1936 cover (front and reverse shown) currently on eBay
that has been flown via zeppelin with 40 cents in U.S. postage. I have
provided a direct link -http://tinyurl.com/r82p8u

According to Konweiser "American Stamp Collector's Dictionary" this would
have not been the proper charge.

See his entry for "Zeppelin".

http://stamps.shop.ebay.ca/stores/Publications-Supplies__W0QQLHQ5fSel....- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

According to U.S. International Postage Rates by Beecher and
Waurukiewicz, in May 1936 the U.S. rate for a one-half ounce letter
via the Hindenburg from Lakehurst, NJ to Germany was 40 cents. The
book also contains a table listing quite a number of different rates
for zeppelin mail from the U.S. during the period when such mail was
flown.

The the USPOD failed to get it from NYC to Lakehurst in a full day's time,
thus the "X"?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Anything is possible, and lacking a view of the reverse of the cover,
the use of the large "X" would tend to indicate non-provision of air
mail service. The is another explanation for the large "X" - should
the cover have made the Hindenburg flight, the air mail fee only paid
for air service to Freiedrichshafen, and subsequent transport to
destination would then have been only by surface; the "X" indicating
no more air mail service fater arrival in Germany.