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(RCSD) No more Ball Point pen cancells?
I have been advised that Royal Mail have had so many complaints about
Posties using ball point pens to cancel stamps which had 'skipped' the machine cancellers, thus destroying them from a collectors point of view that they have stopped this practice. Obviously R.M. must protect its revenue so the new instructions are to rip a corner off any uncancelled stamps. How? Will the postie carefully lift a corner? with most self-sticks that may be possible but PVAlcohol gum may not yield so easily so will they also rip the cover? How does ripping the corner avoid displeasing the collector? How do U.S.P.S. or La Post among others deal with this question: There are in fact so many questions to answer that RCSD is an obvious place to seek answers. Royal Mail, are you reading this? Bob Harper |
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(RCSD) No more Ball Point pen cancells?
US Postal Service improvement over ball point pen cancels is the felt tip
marker! -- Bill Lehr JOBI Philatelic Services specializing in US postal stationery APEX, APS, NSDA, SDI, IFSDA, IPDA, UPSS, PSS 312 Lower Coleville RD Bellefonte, PA 16823-8726 814-355-8871 http://jobi.bizhosting.com "Bob Harper" wrote in message news I have been advised that Royal Mail have had so many complaints about Posties using ball point pens to cancel stamps which had 'skipped' the machine cancellers, thus destroying them from a collectors point of view that they have stopped this practice. Obviously R.M. must protect its revenue so the new instructions are to rip a corner off any uncancelled stamps. How? Will the postie carefully lift a corner? with most self-sticks that may be possible but PVAlcohol gum may not yield so easily so will they also rip the cover? How does ripping the corner avoid displeasing the collector? How do U.S.P.S. or La Post among others deal with this question: There are in fact so many questions to answer that RCSD is an obvious place to seek answers. Royal Mail, are you reading this? Bob Harper |
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(RCSD) No more Ball Point pen cancells?
"Bob Harper" wrote in message news I have been advised that Royal Mail have had so many complaints about Posties using ball point pens to cancel stamps which had 'skipped' the machine cancellers, thus destroying them from a collectors point of view that they have stopped this practice. Obviously R.M. must protect its revenue so the new instructions are to rip a corner off any uncancelled stamps. How? Will the postie carefully lift a corner? with most self-sticks that may be possible but PVAlcohol gum may not yield so easily so will they also rip the cover? How does ripping the corner avoid displeasing the collector? How do U.S.P.S. or La Post among others deal with this question: There are in fact so many questions to answer that RCSD is an obvious place to seek answers. Royal Mail, are you reading this? Bob Harper I am pretty sure that is a myth. I received a pen-cancelled envelope only yesterday and the postman said that his instructions had not changed. Sorting offices do not usually have handstamps. Douglas |
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(RCSD) No more Ball Point pen cancells?
Tearing off a corner of a stamp should not make it invalid. Often when
separating stamps, a corner is torn off inadvertently. Tony "Bob Harper" wrote in message news I have been advised that Royal Mail have had so many complaints about Posties using ball point pens to cancel stamps which had 'skipped' the machine cancellers, thus destroying them from a collectors point of view that they have stopped this practice. Obviously R.M. must protect its revenue so the new instructions are to rip a corner off any uncancelled stamps. How? Will the postie carefully lift a corner? with most self-sticks that may be possible but PVAlcohol gum may not yield so easily so will they also rip the cover? How does ripping the corner avoid displeasing the collector? How do U.S.P.S. or La Post among others deal with this question: There are in fact so many questions to answer that RCSD is an obvious place to seek answers. Royal Mail, are you reading this? Bob Harper |
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(RCSD) No more Ball Point pen cancells?
On Dec 2, 6:05 am, "Bob Harper"
wrote: I have been advised that Royal Mail have had so many complaints about Posties using ball point pens to cancel stamps which had 'skipped' the machine cancellers, thus destroying them from a collectors point of view that they have stopped this practice. Obviously R.M. must protect its revenue so the new instructions are to rip a corner off any uncancelled stamps. How? Will the postie carefully lift a corner? with most self-sticks that may be possible but PVAlcohol gum may not yield so easily so will they also rip the cover? How does ripping the corner avoid displeasing the collector? How do U.S.P.S. or La Post among others deal with this question: There are in fact so many questions to answer that RCSD is an obvious place to seek answers. Royal Mail, are you reading this? Bob Harper Since what we are talking about is a ball point pen, what about inventing a similar inexpensive pen that works like a handstamp. It should be able to achieve the same effect at the same speed. The canceller holding the pen pushes a tab on the back like a ball point pen, it opens the "point" and the point is in the shape of a letter, number, X, Z, star, word, initials, etc. |
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(RCSD) No more Ball Point pen cancells?
On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 13:05:28 -0000, "Bob Harper"
wrote: I have been advised that Royal Mail have had so many complaints about Posties using ball point pens to cancel stamps which had 'skipped' the machine cancellers, thus destroying them from a collectors point of view that they have stopped this practice. Obviously R.M. must protect its revenue so the new instructions are to rip a corner off any uncancelled stamps. How? Will the postie carefully lift a corner? with most self-sticks that may be possible but PVAlcohol gum may not yield so easily so will they also rip the cover? How does ripping the corner avoid displeasing the collector? How do U.S.P.S. or La Post among others deal with this question: There are in fact so many questions to answer that RCSD is an obvious place to seek answers. Royal Mail, are you reading this? Each carrier "should" have a hand stamp. Each sorting office, relay office, blah, blah, blah should have some type of handstamp. There are self-contained units like the Staples offerings or one can purchase custom ones from rubber stamp outfits. Sheesh... it should be as simple as that. I think that the pen, marker and other sordid mutilations are simply out of laziness or scorn. Harumphhh! |
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(RCSD) No more Ball Point pen cancells?
On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 20:38:02 +0000, Tony Clayton
wrote: Each carrier "should" have a hand stamp. Each sorting office, relay office, blah, blah, blah should have some type of handstamp. They used to. The delivery office at Godalming used to have one that they obligingly used when I took back a cover with scarce commemoratives that had escaped being postmarked. The one in Grantham (10 miles) that I use most is also being closed. It is always busy, but the queues are less horrendous than the main Post Office at the other end of town. The subpostmaster is exceedingly helpful, and he stocks commemoratives, and never mutters when I insist on the use of stamps. Ouch! I guess, even though my village is small, the Post Office remains. I have a pretty good rapport with them, although I never truly asked for anything. The mail-lady usually drops in stamp related "things" when she finds them or not deliverable - not often, but it has happened. When I send out my Freebie Stamp Project envelopes - they all seem to get a CDS! I only found this out by a few returns from addresses forwarded / unknown. I thought that was awesome, considering the ink jet cancels these days. The postmaster and I have discussed a few delays and so forth and is very helpful in researching these issues. I like that and don't abuse it. :^) It seems that the old, local P.O. is going the way of the Dodo bird. I still see plenty of them round in the Adirondacks, but commems are tougher to come by at some places. My home town P.O. stocks enough and I try to use them on all my mail. Population - 5,000 or so people. Harumphhh! Indeed. Like you said... |
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(RCSD) No more Ball Point pen cancells?
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Each carrier "should" have a hand stamp. Each sorting office, relay office, blah, blah, blah should have some type of handstamp. There are self-contained units like the Staples offerings or one can purchase custom ones from rubber stamp outfits. Sheesh... it should be as simple as that. I think that the pen, marker and other sordid mutilations are simply out of laziness or scorn. Harumphhh! Yep. Similar to one of these: http://www.stamp-connection.com/dept...ng_stamps.html But of course, the idea makes too much sense. It would never be implemented. |---------------------------------------------------| | Edward A. Locke | | huygens1962ATyahoo.com | | http://www.spaceandastronomystamps.com/ | |---------------------------------------------------| |
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(RCSD) No more Ball Point pen cancells?
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 03:45:26 -0600, Edward A. Locke
wrote: wrote: Each carrier "should" have a hand stamp. Each sorting office, relay office, blah, blah, blah should have some type of handstamp. There are self-contained units like the Staples offerings or one can purchase custom ones from rubber stamp outfits. Sheesh... it should be as simple as that. I think that the pen, marker and other sordid mutilations are simply out of laziness or scorn. Harumphhh! Yep. Similar to one of these: http://www.stamp-connection.com/dept...ng_stamps.html Bingo. I bought one for APS usage a while back. Also, a friend bought me one for home usage - return address. Inexpensive. But of course, the idea makes too much sense. It would never be implemented. Exactly. The idea behind the P.O. is to make money to sustain itself, not to cater to secondary purposes like pleasing part of the public. In the grand scheme of things, I have to agree that whatever means necessary should be used to be cost-effective and get the job done - BUT - as a stamp collector, I love to see S.O.N. / CDS cancels. It IS an imperfect world, but it is the one I must live in. :^) |
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