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collecting mound culture artifacts is popular but controversial.
Why controversial? Some people consider it a form of grave robbing. |
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In Nacogdoches (the oldest town in Texas) we have a street named Mound
Street for at one time it had 50 or so mounds along its course. Alas, there is only one remaining mound on this street. Nac was a center of the Caddoan mound building civilization prior to arrival of European influence (Spanish and French in the 1500's). And, yes, it IS grave robbing... As curious as we may be about a prior culture, how would we like it if some other 'civilization', being curious about us, desired to excavate Washington's grave or even JFK's grave... Jay in Garrison, Nacogdoches County, TX reply, if ya' wanna, to "JSTONE9352" wrote in message ... collecting mound culture artifacts is popular but controversial. Why controversial? Some people consider it a form of grave robbing. |
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"whohah" wrote:
And, yes, it IS grave robbing... As curious as we may be about a prior culture, how would we like it if some other 'civilization', being curious about us, desired to excavate Washington's grave or even JFK's grave... The analogy that stuck with me was this: How would you like it if the Egyptians came here and excavated your local cemetary for the buttons from clothing that people were buried it? JFK, Tutankhamen, Julius Caesar,... the problem has a lot more to do with Grandpa and Great-Grandma. And it is a "problem" specifically because the people in these places now really do not care about who was in these places way back when and if you want to pay them now in ready money now they will look the other way as you dig up yesterday's remains. And as long as we are drifted off topic ... How far away from the find site do you have to be to have claim to its culural context? IN other words, the people who live on these formerly glorious ancient sites often live some place away from the old sites. The people there now are often descended from other people who came later. It gets fuzzy fast. And for me, it is important because like all of us here, I also collect the materials. If the people there do not appreciate them, am I not allowed to? And who are these people? As noted the actual and real people on the land are disinterested and the faraway intellectuals and generals at the National Capital want to see their reflections clothed in faded glory. (The great Mall of History is where we all hang out, I guess.) |
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It gets
fuzzy fast. And for me, it is important because like all of us here, I also collect the materials. If the people there do not appreciate them, am I not allowed to? It is complex. We don't really know what the people even called themselves. Terms such as Adena, Hopewell and Mississippian were applied by researchers and scientists in order to classify the distinct cultural differences between the different periods of moundbuilding. A number of the mounds are still around, especially in Ohio and parts of Illinois. They are now protected historic sites. A great many were destroyed by farmers clearing fields and by treasure seekers from the past. The largest mound complex in North America is located 8 miles west of St. Louis. It was a large ceremony center with a huge mound still visible from the freeway that goes past the site. It was occupied from approx. 800-1300 AD and may have had 10,000 or more people living there at one time. |
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The largest mound complex in North America is located 8 miles west of St. Louis. Correction. That should be 8 miles east of St. Louis. |
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"Alan D." wrote
1. Guatemala (image of Tikal) 2. Mexico (Chichenitza, Palenque or such) 3. Peru (Machu Picchu) And moving right along... Cambodia had ANGKOR WAT on several notes over the years, the 100, 200 and 500 units (Riels? is that right?) How about the Great Pyramid on the US $1? Does that count? |
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I think I have seen Stonehenge on a
piece of paper money. It would seem natural that it would be a UK note but I'm not sure. |
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IIRC, Zimbabwe has a note with a scene of, what to my western eyes, appears
to be a pile of rocks which is evidently the site of an important cultural place of antiquity. I can't remember just exactly what the significance is; however, it probably is the equivalent of Mt. Vernon or the Coliseum or other similarWestern European site. Again, IIRC, doesn't Malta have the oldest known standing rock structures illustrated on their currency? I mean still standing in the original site without being 're-created' . In Nacogdoches, Texas, the county seat of my county, there is an 'authentic' replica of something called the 'Old Stone Fort.' It is presently on the campus of Stephen F. Austin State University. It consists of possibly some of the rocks actually in the original stone house which was built in the late 1700's in what is now downtown Nacogdoches along the Old Spanish Trail. The original structure was demolished in the very early 1900's, many of the rocks being used as building material for locals to scavenge. Then, later, a one-story version of the old stone house [as it was sometimes called] was built on the main Nacogdoches school campus, a site about 3 blocks north of the original location of the thing. Then in 1936, as a part of the celebration of the Texas Centennial, is was again rebuilt on the SFA campus...hopefully using some of the original rocks... Nope, it doesn't appear on any currency... Just my $0.02 worth... Jay in Garrison, TX reply, if ya' wanna, to "JSTONE9352" wrote in message ... I think I have seen Stonehenge on a piece of paper money. It would seem natural that it would be a UK note but I'm not sure. |
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IIRC, Zimbabwe has a note with a scene of, what to my western eyes, appears to be a pile of rocks which is evidently the site of an important cultural place of antiquity. I can't remember just exactly what the significance is; however, it probably is the equivalent of Mt. Vernon or the Coliseum or other similarWestern European site. Again, IIRC, doesn't Malta have the oldest known standing rock structures illustrated on their currency? I mean still standing in the original site without being 're-created' . In Nacogdoches, Texas, the county seat of my county, there is an 'authentic' replica of something called the 'Old Stone Fort.' It is presently on the campus of Stephen F. Austin State University. It consists of possibly some of the rocks actually in the original stone house which was built in the late 1700's in what is now downtown Nacogdoches along the Old Spanish Trail. The original structure was demolished in the very early 1900's, many of the rocks being used as building material for locals to scavenge. Then, later, a one-story version of the old stone house [as it was sometimes called] was built on the main Nacogdoches school campus, a site about 3 blocks north of the original location of the thing. Then in 1936, as a part of the celebration of the Texas Centennial, is was again rebuilt on the SFA campus...hopefully using some of the original rocks... Nope, it doesn't appear on any currency... Just my $0.02 worth... Jay in Garrison, TX reply, if ya' wanna, to "JSTONE9352" wrote in message ... I think I have seen Stonehenge on a piece of paper money. It would seem natural that it would be a UK note but I'm not sure. It is called "The Great Zimbabwe" and is what is left of a civilization that flourished around 800-1200 AD (I think) Legend has it that the ruler lived in a cave in a nearby mountain and communicated with his subjects by echos that bounced off the cave walls to his subjects outside. Nobody was allowed to see the ruler as the penalty was instant death. |
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