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Old November 25th 05, 12:41 PM posted to rec.collecting.coins
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Does anyone know if these have any gold, and if so, how much?
According to the red book, these coins have no numismatic value:

http://cgi.ebay.com/USA-1-2-Dollar-1...QQcmdZViewItem

Thanks.

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Old November 25th 05, 02:13 PM posted to rec.collecting.coins
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These coins have no gold in them.
They were made in the 1970's


"Bob Hairgrove" wrote in message
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Does anyone know if these have any gold, and if so, how much?
According to the red book, these coins have no numismatic value:

http://cgi.ebay.com/USA-1-2-Dollar-1...QQcmdZViewItem

Thanks.

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Old November 25th 05, 05:33 PM posted to rec.collecting.coins
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In article , Bob Hairgrove
wrote:

Does anyone know if these have any gold, and if so, how much?
According to the red book, these coins have no numismatic value:

http://cgi.ebay.com/USA-1-2-Dollar-1...emZ8355431729Q
QcategoryZ42726QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


Gold content varies from zero to about 10K depending on when
it was struck and by whom ... I believe that the 1902-dated
versions were made in 10K as part of a "Coins Of The Golden
West" souvenir set produced by Hart around the turn of the
last century.

If you want to check it out, look it up on Mike Locke's
calgold website:

http://www.calgoldcoin.com/tokens.htm

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Old November 25th 05, 05:44 PM posted to rec.collecting.coins
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No gold,
no value.
TD

Bob Hairgrove wrote:
Does anyone know if these have any gold, and if so, how much?
According to the red book, these coins have no numismatic value:

http://cgi.ebay.com/USA-1-2-Dollar-1...QQcmdZViewItem

Thanks.

--
Bob Hairgrove


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Old November 26th 05, 05:26 PM posted to rec.collecting.coins
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Bob,

This particular issue is actually old (small tail on bear), and there
are a few collectors of the California tokens who will pay good prices
for them, though nowhere near what the originals are worth. This one
may be 8k - 14k gold, but there is no way to know--in any case, its
value is far less than half what a U.S. gold dollar would be worth.
(The retail selling price was usually face value, and the manufacturer
sold them for up to 60% back of face, or 20 cents per half dollar. If
you are an ANA member, you can borrow from the ANA Library a copy of
California Pioneer Fractional Gold, 2nd edition (2003), which explains
this in detail, based on Secret Service reports of the time.) Mike
Locke has the finest collection of these tokens and also has a web site
on them. He has not bid on this item as of yet and may not need it.

I can't really read the date on this, but if it is really 1902, that
would probably be the actual year of manufacture. Nearly all are
backdated, though.

Personally I would rather own a damaged piece actually used in the
1850s for small change than a modern fantasy piece in MS-65, but to
each his own!

Bob Leonard

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Old November 26th 05, 05:27 PM posted to rec.collecting.coins
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Bob,

This particular issue is actually old (small tail on bear), and there
are a few collectors of the California tokens who will pay good prices
for them, though nowhere near what the originals are worth. This one
may be 8k - 14k gold, but there is no way to know--in any case, its
value is far less than half what a U.S. gold dollar would be worth.
(The retail selling price was usually face value, and the manufacturer
sold them for up to 60% back of face, or 20 cents per half dollar. If
you are an ANA member, you can borrow from the ANA Library a copy of
California Pioneer Fractional Gold, 2nd edition (2003), which explains
this in detail, based on Secret Service reports of the time.) Mike
Locke has the finest collection of these tokens and also has a web site
on them. He has not bid on this item as of yet and may not need it.

I can't really read the date on this, but if it is really 1902, that
would probably be the actual year of manufacture. Nearly all are
backdated, though.

Personally I would rather own a damaged piece actually used in the
1850s for small change than a modern fantasy piece in MS-65, but to
each his own!

Bob Leonard

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Old November 26th 05, 10:49 PM posted to rec.collecting.coins
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I have one listed on ebay. I had a jeweler test it and he said it WAS
gold.

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Old November 27th 05, 06:44 PM posted to rec.collecting.coins
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"thelivinglady" wrote in message
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I have one listed on ebay. I had a jeweler test it and he said it WAS
gold.


What IS it now?

Jonathan_ATC LOL!


 




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