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The appropriately named Fukushima!
On Mar 15, 6:58*am, Peter wrote:
On Mar 14, 12:04*pm, oly wrote: Your linked article is essentially the worst case (not much release of radioactive stuff), IF the containment vessels hold. IF NOT, then you get more towards the Chernobyl end of the spectrum. Please note that the author continues to update the article as facts are learned. *Limited information available is a problem for him, as well. *I don't yet see how a comparison to Chernobyl can be a useful part of the discussion. There also seems to be a question of "spent fuel" which is kept in pools of water in these buildings after removal from the reactors. Did that stuff get ejected in the explosions??? As I understand it, they did not. All in all, the earthquake was a lot more powerful than anything envisioned, and both the Japanese and Americans who designed these things might be guilty of more than a little hubris. One point he makes it that the electrical power to the cooling pumps was lost, despite a triply redundant back-up power system. *To my mind that indicates inadequate testing or poor operational procedures. *I have actually see a case of such a system (developed for an inflatable radome) being found to contain a single point failure mode. *Besides being a design error, such a thing must indicate a lack of an adversarial approach to testing. *For such a thing as a nuclear power plant, testing a power supply to destruction could reasonably have been required. Even so, his remark about how train service compares with nuclear power plant safety is amusing if not precisely the best point. In Russia, they could abandon a large amount of land around Chernobyl. *This is a luxury that the Japanese may not have. Chernobyl was, by contrast, probably worse than was reported. I can appreciate where Mr. Bean is coming from ... One of us must have a peculiar taste for writing. oly- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I don't think the NHK World Television (Japanese Public Television English Service, it seems) is broadcasting "live" anymore. They seem to have put on a tape "loop" of the same hour or two of programming, over and over. Maybe they have run away!!! oly P.S. The British Foreign Office has told British Nationals to "Get the hell out of Dodge" too. |
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The appropriately named Fukushima!
"oly" wrote in message
... P.S. The British Foreign Office has told British Nationals to "Get the hell out of Dodge" too. US Naval forces are leaving the area as fast as possible to avoid contamination. Troops as far away as Tokyo have been "advised" to stay indoors. Despite the Japanese gubmint's assurances that this won't be another Chernobyl (and maybe because of their denials), I'm pretty sure this will go down as the worst nuclear plant disaster yet. So much for those who claim nuclear power to be "pollution free". (Not to mention the half-life of the spent fuel rods is about a gajillion years!) |
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The appropriately named Fukushima!
On Mar 16, 2:51*pm, "Beanie" wrote:
"oly" wrote in message ... P.S. *The British Foreign Office has told British Nationals to "Get the hell out of Dodge" too. US Naval forces are leaving the area as fast as possible to avoid contamination. Troops as far away as Tokyo have been "advised" to stay indoors. Despite the Japanese gubmint's assurances that this won't be another Chernobyl (and maybe because of their denials), I'm pretty sure this will go down as the worst nuclear plant disaster yet. So much for those who claim nuclear power to be "pollution free". (Not to mention the half-life of the spent fuel rods is about a gajillion years!) I don't know about how to compare this to Chernobyl - but obviously Japan doesn't have the vast landmass of the old Soviet Union. Also, northern Japan is a lot closer to the USA than happy old central Eurasia. It's going to take three or four weeks to have some realistic idea of where Fukushoma goes, melt-down and depleted fuel wise. It could be a total cluster-****. Or Not. oly |
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The appropriately named Fukushima!
On Mar 19, 12:14*am, oly wrote:
It could be a total cluster-****. *Or Not. oly So far, I'd still bet that the only casualty will be the owner of the plant, when he realizes how much money he loses. |
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The appropriately named Fukushima!
On Mar 21, 8:46*pm, Peter wrote:
On Mar 19, 12:14*am, oly wrote: It could be a total cluster-****. *Or Not. oly So far, I'd still bet that the only casualty will be the owner of the plant, when he realizes how much money he loses. No, there will be dead Japanese out of this thing (I've heard that two of the plant workers are already dead and fifteen in critical condition - but yes, the people I read are radicals on both sides of the spectrum who don't buy into the MSM); and likely a large long-term exclusion zone in a country with not much arable land to spare. We aren't going to know the truth for sometime (weeks) to come; and you can sure as **** be certain that the U.S. main stream media won't be reporting the truth. Maybe the BBC will be a little better. One also needs to consider the psychological effects of the roller- coaster nuclear news on the Japanese and world economies. Not out of the woods here, not by any means. oly P.S. The news is showing photos of the Japanese firetruck drivers carefully putting on their seat belts before driving around the Fukushima Nuclear Facility. In-freakin'-credible. |
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