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On 2008-06-09, Bluesea wrote:
"MatthewK" wrote in message ... Since they're hand-made, you could ask in the Note section of the order form for them to send you the finest that they have. Although it wouldn't compare to a Japanese fine, I think mine could pass as a European fine or a fine-medium (or broader) depending on how much ink I have loaded onto it. I think I'll be fine with some decent ink and good paper. I layed down some wet lines with platinum ink/italic speedball nib and the cheapest printer paper I've ever seen did okey. I've noticed as of late that I like my cursive hand to be relatively thick for any given height. I write small with all my fine nibs because of this. For correspondence I should probably be writting bigger anyway. Also, you might be able to sand down the point to satisfy you. My glass pen is by J. Herbin and the side of the box says, "When the nib is slightly blunt do not hesitate to use fine sand paper (grade 400). Rub gently the nib on the paper and the pleasure of writing will be renewed." Thanks for the tip. I think I ordered one from pendemonium...I've only made a few orders from them and I think they have a slowish response at times. I ordered some dip pens and ink from misterart too, somebody is going to get a really colorfull letter soon. lol matthew |
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Bluesea wrote:
"Aaron Hsu" wrote in message ... "Take the pen between the first and second fingers and the thumb, observing, 1st, that it crosses the second finger on the corner of the nail; 2d, that it crosses the fore finger forward of the knuckle; I don't understand "knuckle." Which one? I've got it under the pad before the first joint nearest the fingertip. In these particular descriptions, this means that the pen should cross the fore finger just between the first (largest) knuckle nearest the palm bones and the second joint. It's slightly old terminology. 3d, that the end of the thumb touches the holder opposite the lower joint of the fore finger; See, this "lower joint" sounds like the one closest to the palm, the farthest from the fingertip. I'm getting confused. Which end is up? ("Who's on first?") The lower joint here is the one furthest from the palm. 4th, that the top of the holder points towards the right shoulder; This forces the writer to cock the wrist inward, doesn't it? Not in the proper writing position. According to thise book, the wrist is basically not used, only the fingers, fore arm, and shoulders for some three different types of motions. The book actually mentions three different positions for sitting, the one that seems to work best for me is the standard forward facing version. In this version, you stand with your shoulders straight forward and your fore arms resting on the edge of the desk. You let your arms form right angles with each other, and then you let the paper sit parrallel with your right arm. This lets the pen sit naturally and squarely with the paper, and also let's the write remain straight. The forearm is then used to transport the pen across the paper, while the fingers perform the minor details of the letters. 5th, that the wrist is above the paper, and the hand resting lightly on the nails of the third and fourth fingers; 6th, that the point of the pen comes squarely to the paper." The book further describes two different strokes, the light stroke and the shades strokes. With light strokes being formed "by moving the pen lightly on the paper without springing or spreading the teeth," and shaded strokes formed "by springing the pen by a pressure to spread the teeth, then lightening the pressure, and allowing them to return to place." Few people today use this form of holding the pen, From what I got from the description, it sounds uncomfortable. It really depends on what style of writing you have. If you are trying to write Spencerian, I think it works very very well. It takes practice, but it does work well, because it helps to create a consistency and reduces variables. if you are trying to write in another form, it might not be the best. or writing, and what is considered light in the fountain pen world, even though it is very light, may not be light enough for a flexible steel dip pen. With a fountain pen, sometimes there are certain directions and shapes to make that require a bit more pressure to make the proper ink flow that you want. With a steel dip pen like those I use, these additional pressures will deliver very different stokes than what most people expect, and so a very ilght touch is usually required, with the shaded strokes being formed deliberately. As for dipping, I notice that some of the replies want you to brush the nib with a brush or drop into the feed system. I think these are all good ideas when absolute writing integrity must be guaranteed, but when it comes to daily correspondence, this method seems very slow to me, and I prefer to dip the nib straight into the bottle. I use Mont Blanc bottles to store my ink, and they work very well for maintaining the proper depth of ink for dipping. How far do you dip? Do you dip the entire nib or halfway or what? My glass pen has grooves that spiral upward that are supposed to hold ink for longer writing, but I get too much ink and too wide of a line when I dip more than about 1/8" up the tip. I dip just past the main hole drilled in the nib. Sometimes, if i need to do details, then I don't always dip that high up. Other times, if I need a lot of ink for a large line or something, and I know that I can control the smear, I'll dip a little more and shake a little less. -- Aaron Hsu | Jabber: ``Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else.'' - Frederic Bastiat |
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