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  #71  
Old July 2nd 06, 08:32 PM posted to alt.collecting.pens-pencils
J. L. Jones
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My experience with Noodler's ink is not extensive. I've used
four colours in several pens.

My own experience is that Noodler's ink is much less prone
to drying out and "gumming up" than other inks I've used,
especially Private Reserve which comes in lovely colours but
can be a real problem to clean out of a pen and will "gum
up" excessively, in my experience.

One of the claims for Noodler's inks was that it would wash
easily out of pens. I find this to be true and a great
advantage for those (aka me) of us who change ink colours
fairly often and who probably wash more ink down the sink
than we apply to paper.

Living in the Pacific Northwest where it rains occasionally,
I appreciate the waterproof versions of Noodlers. The
permanence is nice, I suppose. I looked at the messages
written in my senior year yearbook and the ones written with
Shaeffer blue are fading. I know it was Shaeffer blue
because that was the ink the school system provided for us
to fill our Esterbrooks.

We all know fountain pens have their own eccentricities. One
of my Parker 51's can sit in a drawer for months and write
when it touches the paper. Another dries out in a couple of
days. So while anecdotal experience is not valueless, it
must be viewed with reservation.

J. L. Jones

On Wed, 31 May 2006 18:07:16 -0400, "-Moonstone-"
wrote:


"Semolina Pilchard" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 30 May 2006 11:05:05 -0400, Chuck Swisher wrote:

I didn't refer to your post specifically. Look at the whole thread.

Your
reply was reasonable and practical. Perhaps Mr. ****-magnet may

have
provided such proof had he not been called a troll and verbally

bludgeoned
by the Noodlers advocates.

That's true of any ink, or indeed any manufactured article. Can we

expect
to see the group entirely taken over by manufacturers and retailers

of ink,
pens and papers or will the special pleading be confined to

Noodlers?


I've said nothing about the ink, nor do I intend to. My comment was

about
the rush to condemn the OP and extol the virtues of the ink. One

may be
forgiven for suspecting the mob's motives when presented with such

an
unedifying spectacle.
--
Sem


Thank you for going to bat for me Sem. I also thank Calvin for his
bitter/sweet frankness. In this climate, I know it can be difficult
for people to express "unpopular" ideas particularly if they involve
certain products. All along I made every attempt to remain
open-minded, there were times when I was even thinking and expressing
positive thoughts about the ink. I had 2 pens that dried-out and one
had a small clogg. This had never occurred before until I changed
inks. Even the nothing was ruined. At about the same time, a
"professional pen expert" reported to me that a Pelican what
permanently ruined by Noodler's ink and I had just purchased a
Pelican. From the personal experience commensurate with "professional
advice" I had warning me against Noodler's and Pelicans, I feel I was
acting in good faith.

I also want to thank Harry, Pam, Gordon, Fred, Robert, Curtis, and BL.
If I left anyone out, it was an oversight and I apologize. As someone
else said, "there are good people in there" and all you guys were very
helpful to me. All I was doing was sharing/seeking information and I t
rust that we were all helpful to one another. Calvin, your advice
played a major roll in my decision to return the Pelly for
non-ink-related reasons.

As for Tetra, you have a catty attitude an portray a personality that
Calvin expressed in his post. Your mention of a crapper reminds me,
your posts are already going into a virtual crapper called a filter.
Terry, I'm sorry that you were so overwelmed by someone's juvenile
handle that the distraction precluded you from offering any real help.
Do you have ADD or something? As for you Billtx calling me a troll,
you jumped the gun didn't you? Borked; calling me a fear monger. If I
have had that affect on you, please understand that I wasn't trying to
scare you or anyone. Borked, you based your unwarranted misgivings on
the fact that I didn't name the person that's Pelly was ruined by.
Although under no obligation, it was still hard for me to give up the
name of the person and his professional opinion that his pen was
ruined. I regret having to give good info that many of you did not
deserve to here. I called your bluff but who is really hurt as the
result of it. Be careful. The next can of worms you force opened may
hit you closer to home. Chuck, shame on you for judging my credibility
based on what I could prove. After successfully cleaning my pens
without damage, you know I couldn't offer any proof of anything yet
your perception of me was based on this proof. I did report the
pen-expert that warned me of your ink. I assume that you and he
are/were friends and he doesn't have a competing ink factory tucked
away somewhere goes he? I've never had ill-dealings with you, I don't
know you nor had I have had anything against you and the success of
your business or the lack thereof has no impact on me one way or
another. Still, your general attitude wasn't becoming of a successful
businessman. If my postings stressed you out to the point that you
apparently reached, perhaps you should find a new "lower keyed"
venture to involve yourself.

As a result of all this, I have learned that it is a good
rule-of-thumb to at least perform minimal maintenance on all all pens
without regard to ink, particularly if I am going to use rich inks
like Noodler's. For many years I have gotten away with leaving ink in
my pen while inactive for 4 or 5 months and only purging with water
when changing inks. This pen was the exception. From this point on,
all pens are going to be rinsed will water at least every 4-6 weeks.
BTW, I gave all my inks the test to see which one(s) kept a coating on
the nib after hearing that inks that did not bead on the nib also
leaves a coating on the inside (similar to cholestrol and blood vessel
walls.) I won't say which one brand on hand failed the test nor what
brands were on hand. I'm not even sure if this "test" is really
reliable. This merits further investigation.

Thank you all for ready through this wordy and probably boring
posting.

-Moonstone- (formerly S. Magnet)

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Old July 3rd 06, 03:00 AM posted to alt.collecting.pens-pencils
Harry F. Leopold
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On Sun, 2 Jul 2006 14:32:41 -0500, J. L. Jones wrote
(in article ):

My experience with Noodler's ink is not extensive. I've used four colours in
several pens.

My own experience is that Noodler's ink is much less prone to drying out and
"gumming up" than other inks I've used, especially Private Reserve which
comes in lovely colours but can be a real problem to clean out of a pen and
will "gum up" excessively, in my experience.

One of the claims for Noodler's inks was that it would wash easily out of
pens. I find this to be true and a great advantage for those (aka me) of us
who change ink colours fairly often and who probably wash more ink down the
sink than we apply to paper.

Living in the Pacific Northwest where it rains occasionally, I appreciate the


waterproof versions of Noodlers. The permanence is nice, I suppose. I looked
at the messages written in my senior year yearbook and the ones written with
Shaeffer blue are fading. I know it was Shaeffer blue because that was the
ink the school system provided for us to fill our Esterbrooks.

We all know fountain pens have their own eccentricities. One of my Parker
51's can sit in a drawer for months and write when it touches the paper.
Another dries out in a couple of days. So while anecdotal experience is not
valueless, it must be viewed with reservation.


Exactly, with regard to pens having their eccentricities, I recently picked
up a bottle of Noodler's Fox red, nice color, but my Waterman 100 Year pen
does not like it, it skips a lot unless I press down more than I should. On
the other hand Noodler's Black in it is near perfect, I have yet to try
Hunter's Green in it, or my new bottle of Legal Lapis. On the other, other
hand I just filled my newly bought Sheaffer Cadet with the Fox and it is
BEAUTIFUL, this pen loves it. The older Cadet likes the Hunter Green and
Black, have tried both it in.

I haven't even opened the Legal Lapis yet, I expect to be having some fun
testing each color in each pen over the next few months and finding out which
one likes which inks best.

--
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  #73  
Old July 3rd 06, 03:33 AM posted to alt.collecting.pens-pencils
hometown ambiguity
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Default WARNING: Noodler's Inks [A Big Thanks!]

In article , J. L. Jones wrote:

My experience with Noodler's ink is not extensive. I've used
four colours in several pens.

My own experience is that Noodler's ink is much less prone
to drying out and "gumming up" than other inks I've used,
especially Private Reserve which comes in lovely colours but


this is my experience with PR as well. & Noodler is less likely to gum up
despite the saturated color.

One of the claims for Noodler's inks was that it would wash
easily out of pens. I find this to be true and a great


strange. i find Noodler hard to wash completely clean. because it's so highly
pigmented. (but i've only used like 3 or 4 colors.)

bye now,

I hated the sunsets of whatever colour, I hated its beauty and its
magic and the secret I would never know. I hated its indifference and
the cruelty which was part of its loveliness.

--- Jean Rhys, Wide Sargossa Sea
  #74  
Old July 3rd 06, 08:40 PM posted to alt.collecting.pens-pencils
Curtis L. Russell
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On Mon, 3 Jul 2006 15:09:17 -0400, "~*Thespius*~"
wrote:

I got a fontain pen and bottle of noodlers ink for christmas. Haven't
used a fountain pen in years but I filled it up and did the month's
bills before letting it rest in the drawer for a month forgotten. The
pen was clogged so I do know that noddler's claim by some to have the
attributes of holy water is malarky. I say who cares. Am happy to
return to my trusted PB.


What does this have to do with anything, pro or con? And holy water
makes for a wet nib.

And for a positive comment or two, finally took the instructions given
long ago and went to Pen Haven in Kensington, MD. They did their magic
on three nibs and I have $ 700 plus worth of pens now working exactly
the way I always wanted them to. Since they didn't charge for the work
done, I bought a rocker blotter to lessen the guilt. And a Shaeffer
from the 30s, but that had nothing to do with guilt.

Guess I know where any gift money's going for awhile. Last week I
didn't need anymore pens. Now there is that snorkel and the touchdown
and the retracted nib and the flexible nib...

And I learned that if you have a place like Pen Haven within a
reasonable drive, don't sit around bemoaning how a pen or two is
writing (or not writing). Go on down to the guys with the black thumbs
and the experience...

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...
 




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