New Books With Rough Page Edges

Hope my subject described this correctly. What is it about books being made
that have "rough" page edges, as if they're supposed to look all old &
ancient right off the shelf? When I was younger, I used to think that this
was cool -- made me feel sort of erudite. Now that I read much more, I find
it quite annoying when I turn pages.

By the way, is there a word for this?

John wrote:
Hope my subject described this correctly. What is it about books being made
that have "rough" page edges, as if they're supposed to look all old &
ancient right off the shelf? When I was younger, I used to think that this
was cool -- made me feel sort of erudite. Now that I read much more, I find
it quite annoying when I turn pages.

By the way, is there a word for this?


petty? irascible? princess-and-the-pea-ish?


michael

michael wrote:
John wrote:
Hope my subject described this correctly. What is it about books
being made that have "rough" page edges, as if they're supposed to
look all old & ancient right off the shelf? When I was younger, I
used to think that this was cool -- made me feel sort of erudite. Now
that I read much more, I find it quite annoying when I turn pages.

By the way, is there a word for this?


petty? irascible? princess-and-the-pea-ish?


michael
I often think the production of new books is useless when there are so
many old unread books.

Are you referred to 'untrimmed' edges?

"John" wrote in message
...
Hope my subject described this correctly. What is it about books being
made that have "rough" page edges, as if they're supposed to look all old
& ancient right off the shelf? When I was younger, I used to think that
this was cool -- made me feel sort of erudite. Now that I read much more,
I find it quite annoying when I turn pages.

By the way, is there a word for this?

John,

The book collecting term for "rough" page edges is "uncut;" however,
it might be wiser to say that the edges are "untrimmed." Quite
often, the term "uncut" is confused with the term "unopened." which
means that the pages of a signature have not been "separated."

best,
Jerry Morris




On Jun 15, 7:58 pm, "John" wrote:
Hope my subject described this correctly. What is it about books being made
that have "rough" page edges, as if they're supposed to look all old &
ancient right off the shelf? When I was younger, I used to think that this
was cool -- made me feel sort of erudite. Now that I read much more, I find
it quite annoying when I turn pages.

By the way, is there a word for this?

On Jun 16, 1:58 am, "John" wrote:
Hope my subject described this correctly. What is it about books being made
that have "rough" page edges, as if they're supposed to look all old &
ancient right off the shelf? When I was younger, I used to think that this
was cool -- made me feel sort of erudite. Now that I read much more, I find
it quite annoying when I turn pages.

By the way, is there a word for this?

Silly?

It's a deckle edge. Photofinishers used to make prints with deckle
edges; you'd probably dislike them, too.

J. Del Col

"jadel" wrote in message
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On Jun 16, 1:58 am, "John" wrote:
Hope my subject described this correctly. What is it about books being
made
that have "rough" page edges, as if they're supposed to look all old &
ancient right off the shelf? When I was younger, I used to think that
this
was cool -- made me feel sort of erudite. Now that I read much more, I
find
it quite annoying when I turn pages.

By the way, is there a word for this?

Silly?

It's a deckle edge. Photofinishers used to make prints with deckle
edges; you'd probably dislike them, too.

J. Del Col



A true deckle edge is an artifact of the process of hand making paper. It is
the untrimmed edge of the paper at the sides of the mold, next to the
deckle. The deckle was a removable part of the mold, a kind of wooden rim,
that served to keep the paper fibers from washing off the screen-like bed of
the mold. Deckle edge could also be used to describe modern paper produced
with an artificial deckle edge, and perhaps that's in the eye of the
beholder. I personally wouldn't use "deckle edge" except for the real thing,
but maybe I've never seen a manufactured deckle edge that comes close enough
to the real thing to qualify, in my opinion.

Jerry Morris, in another post, was correct as far as standard book
descriptions go: "cut" means smoothly trimmed; "trimmed" at one time meant
more roughly finished, but has now acquired nearly the same meaning as
"uncut" used to have, possibly because of the confusion of "uncut" with
"unopened." According to John Carter, in *ABC For Book Collectors*, the term
"rough trimmed" is sometimes used for edges not cut smooth.

I have examples of several edge trims on my website, including a true deckle
edge. http://www.mywingsbooks.com/coll-terms/edg02_.shtml

Alice

On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 01:23:08 GMT, "my-wings"
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"jadel" wrote in message
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On Jun 16, 1:58 am, "John" wrote:
Hope my subject described this correctly. What is it about books being
made
that have "rough" page edges, as if they're supposed to look all old &
ancient right off the shelf? When I was younger, I used to think that
this
was cool -- made me feel sort of erudite. Now that I read much more, I
find
it quite annoying when I turn pages.

By the way, is there a word for this?

Silly?

It's a deckle edge. Photofinishers used to make prints with deckle
edges; you'd probably dislike them, too.

J. Del Col



A true deckle edge is an artifact of the process of hand making paper. It is
the untrimmed edge of the paper at the sides of the mold, next to the
deckle. The deckle was a removable part of the mold, a kind of wooden rim,
that served to keep the paper fibers from washing off the screen-like bed of
the mold. Deckle edge could also be used to describe modern paper produced
with an artificial deckle edge, and perhaps that's in the eye of the
beholder. I personally wouldn't use "deckle edge" except for the real thing,
but maybe I've never seen a manufactured deckle edge that comes close enough
to the real thing to qualify, in my opinion.

Jerry Morris, in another post, was correct as far as standard book
descriptions go: "cut" means smoothly trimmed; "trimmed" at one time meant
more roughly finished, but has now acquired nearly the same meaning as
"uncut" used to have, possibly because of the confusion of "uncut" with
"unopened." According to John Carter, in *ABC For Book Collectors*, the term
"rough trimmed" is sometimes used for edges not cut smooth.

I have examples of several edge trims on my website, including a true deckle
edge. http://www.mywingsbooks.com/coll-terms/edg02_.shtml

Alice


Alice, that page is incredibly helpful! The differences between the
examples are clear, and both the photography and the explanations are
beautiful.

Thank you.

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On Jun 16, 9:23 pm, "my-wings" wrote:
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On Jun 16, 1:58 am, "John" wrote:
Hope my subject described this correctly. What is it about books being
made
that have "rough" page edges, as if they're supposed to look all old &
ancient right off the shelf? When I was younger, I used to think that
this
was cool -- made me feel sort of erudite. Now that I read much more, I
find
it quite annoying when I turn pages.

By the way, is there a word for this?

Silly?

It's a deckle edge. Photofinishers used to make prints with deckle
edges; you'd probably dislike them, too.

J. Del Col

A true deckle edge is an artifact of the process of hand making paper. It is
the untrimmed edge of the paper at the sides of the mold, next to the
deckle. The deckle was a removable part of the mold, a kind of wooden rim,
that served to keep the paper fibers from washing off the screen-like bed of
the mold. Deckle edge could also be used to describe modern paper produced
with an artificial deckle edge, and perhaps that's in the eye of the
beholder. I personally wouldn't use "deckle edge" except for the real thing,...


Too bad. Except to pedants, it's a deckle edge--pseudo or not.

J. Del Col

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Barbara Bailey wrote:

Alice, that page is incredibly helpful! The differences between the
examples are clear, and both the photography and the explanations are
beautiful.

I agree. Thanks for doing this, Alice. I may have to post a link to your
whole "book terms" section on ModernLib. :-D

--
Scot Kamins
Maintaining the Modern Library collectors website
at http://www.ModernLib.com