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Old December 19th 03, 09:16 AM
Alan Payne
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Sarawak on the Island of Borneo was an interesting place in the early part
of the last century, ruled by an english family, the Brookes also known as
the the White Rajahs.

The Sarawak Government isssued stamps in its own right some of the best
being the 1932 and the 1934 rajah issues. This latest little item is a cover
used straight after the war, when Australian stamps were in use.

http://www.geocities.com/stamppna

Alan


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Old December 19th 03, 11:16 PM
Bob Ingraham
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12/19/2003 4:04 AM

G'day Alan,
Can you offer any info on these overprints for me please.
Rgds from Perth.
http://groups.msn.com/Stamps/shoebox...to&PhotoID=181



Rodney,

I asked a Sarawak specialist from my stamp club about these stamps. He
responded thus:

"The two 'overprints' are slightly different, suggesting to me that they
were struck from two different 'chops'. They are Japanese from the
Occupation of 1942-1945. Actually they came in three different sizes.
I think hat these two are 'medium' oval frames. They were used by Japanese
officials to denote ' Received Inwards".

So I gather that they aren't overprints at all, but receiving marks.

Bob

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Old December 19th 03, 11:33 PM
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Rodney

I think that your two stamps were overprinted during the Japanese WW2
occupation in the early 1940's for revenue purposes.

According to a footnote in Gibbons catalogue, stamps of the type shown
in your photo and overprinted with Japanese symbols within an oval
frame are revenue stamps.

Your stamps would appear to fit this description.

This is confirmed by an authoritative article on these 1934-47 Sarawak
issues that appeared in the July 2003 edition of Gibbons Stamp
Monthly. The article includes three rather poor pictures of these
stamps overprinted in this way - illustrating the three different
sizes of oval - 12x7mm, 14x9mm and 21x14mm.

By the way, how did you create such good images?

Regards

Roger

PS This is my first post to this NG through Google Groups. I used to
access this NG through NTL in the UK, but the service provided is so
poor that it is virtually impossible to access it in that way now.

"Rodney" wrote in message ...
G'day Alan,
Can you offer any info on these overprints for me please.
Rgds from Perth.
http://groups.msn.com/Stamps/shoebox...to&PhotoID=181

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"Alan Payne" Hiram P
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| Sarawak on the Island of Borneo was an interesting place in the early part
| of the last century, ruled by an english family, the Brookes also known as
| the the White Rajahs.
|
| The Sarawak Government isssued stamps in its own right some of the best
| being the 1932 and the 1934 rajah issues. This latest little item is a cover
| used straight after the war, when Australian stamps were in use.
|
|
http://www.geocities.com/stamppna
|
| Alan
|
|

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Old December 20th 03, 01:24 AM
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Thanks Roger,
I have had a few off list replies, confirm your post.
I just could not find any reference in my Gibbons Brit Comm.

Curious you should appreciate my scans, I envy the scans
sent by Bob etc, they are more clear somehow.
I use a very old scanner with bundled softwear called
MGI photosuite. I scan a page of stamps (about 14 singletons)
at 350dpi, the cut and crop each stamp before cataloguing.

When I want to send to the Newsgroup, I just take (as in this case)
the 2 images, and using ACDSee do a command called
"Make a contact sheet" it joins the two stamps together in 1 image
I cut and crop and paste to my hotmail link
(Thanks to Pierre for that)

HTH




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"Roger" wrote in message om...
| Rodney
|
| I think that your two stamps were overprinted during the Japanese WW2
| occupation in the early 1940's for revenue purposes.
|
| According to a footnote in Gibbons catalogue, stamps of the type shown
| in your photo and overprinted with Japanese symbols within an oval
| frame are revenue stamps.
|
| Your stamps would appear to fit this description.
|
| This is confirmed by an authoritative article on these 1934-47 Sarawak
| issues that appeared in the July 2003 edition of Gibbons Stamp
| Monthly. The article includes three rather poor pictures of these
| stamps overprinted in this way - illustrating the three different
| sizes of oval - 12x7mm, 14x9mm and 21x14mm.
|
| By the way, how did you create such good images?
|
| Regards
|
| Roger
|
| PS This is my first post to this NG through Google Groups. I used to
| access this NG through NTL in the UK, but the service provided is so
| poor that it is virtually impossible to access it in that way now.
|
| "Rodney" wrote in message ...
| G'day Alan,
| Can you offer any info on these overprints for me please.
| Rgds from Perth.
|
http://groups.msn.com/Stamps/shoebox...to&PhotoID=181
|
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| "Alan Payne" Hiram P
wrote in message ...
| | Sarawak on the Island of Borneo was an interesting place in the early part
| | of the last century, ruled by an english family, the Brookes also known as
| | the the White Rajahs.
| |
| | The Sarawak Government isssued stamps in its own right some of the best
| | being the 1932 and the 1934 rajah issues. This latest little item is a cover
| | used straight after the war, when Australian stamps were in use.
| |
| |
http://www.geocities.com/stamppna
| |
| | Alan
| |
| |


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Old December 20th 03, 03:27 AM
Rodney
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I have some trouble with this scan,
This must surely come under the heading "Favour Cancel"?
The envelope seems to me to have the address added as an afterthought.
However, it still must surely be scarce,
being legal postage for 62 days (29th October--17th December)
I have the following text from my trusty Stamp Atlas

Japanese PO closed down and destroyed it's stocks on 4th Sept 1945

Mail was accepted by FPO's of liberating Australian Forces, at first free,
then franked with Aust Stamps during the dates cited above.

For periods 17th December 1945--to 25th April 1946 see BMA issues

HTH



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"Alan Payne" Hiram P
wrote in message ...
| Sarawak on the Island of Borneo was an interesting place in the early part
| of the last century, ruled by an english family, the Brookes also known as
| the the White Rajahs.
|
| The Sarawak Government isssued stamps in its own right some of the best
| being the 1932 and the 1934 rajah issues. This latest little item is a cover
| used straight after the war, when Australian stamps were in use.
|
|
http://www.geocities.com/stamppna
|
| Alan
|
|


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Old December 20th 03, 04:44 AM
Bob Ingraham
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12/19/2003 7:27 PM

I have some trouble with this scan,
This must surely come under the heading "Favour Cancel"?
The envelope seems to me to have the address added as an afterthought.
However, it still must surely be scarce,
being legal postage for 62 days (29th October--17th December)
I have the following text from my trusty Stamp Atlas


This is a typical philatelic cover, generated simply to provide a collector
(or more likely a dealer) with a postal artifact representative of that
particular time, place and circumstance. Some collectors scorn such items,
but they fill holes in postal history that would otherwise remain unfilled.
How many genuine, postally used, non-commercial, non-philatelic covers were
used during the period in question? More importantly, how many have
survived? Your comment, that it "surely must be rare," is absolutely
correct.

Personally, I'd rather have the cover in question than none at all, which is
my current circumstance!

Bob

Japanese PO closed down and destroyed it's stocks on 4th Sept 1945

Mail was accepted by FPO's of liberating Australian Forces, at first free,
then franked with Aust Stamps during the dates cited above.


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| http://www.geocities.com/stamppna


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Old December 20th 03, 05:48 AM
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On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 09:16:39 GMT, "Alan Payne" Hiram P
wrote:

Sarawak on the Island of Borneo was an interesting place in the early part
of the last century, ruled by an english family, the Brookes also known as
the the White Rajahs.

The Sarawak Government isssued stamps in its own right some of the best
being the 1932 and the 1934 rajah issues. This latest little item is a cover
used straight after the war, when Australian stamps were in use.

http://www.geocities.com/stamppna

Alan



Interesting cover.

Cachet reads NOV 9, 1945.
Cancel reads NOV 8, 1945.

Any ideas?

Blair



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Old December 20th 03, 05:48 AM
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On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 20:04:09 +0800, "Rodney"
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G'day Alan,
Can you offer any info on these overprints for me please.
Rgds from Perth.
http://groups.msn.com/Stamps/shoebox...to&PhotoID=181



Rodney:

These are REVENUES issued under the Japanese
Occupation of Sarawak.

Blair



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