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Old March 18th 04, 08:56 PM
Reid Goldsborough
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On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 18:47:27 +0000 (UTC), Darren
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I just don't get this constant childish sniping and name calling.


This is what Anka does. She criticizes others for asking for
information and advice, repeatedly. Her preferred actions online are
sarcasm and snipping.

I mentioned something I read about James I after what I characterized
as a "quick search." Maybe what I posted was wrong. I don't know the
history of England during the 16/17th centuries well at all. Instead
of sarcasm and sniping, a much more constructive approach would be to
provide correct information, if indeed what I posted was incorrect.

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Old March 18th 04, 11:14 PM
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On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 18:47:27 +0000 (UTC), Darren
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I just don't get this constant childish sniping and name calling.
Reid wrote:
This is what Anka does. She criticizes others for asking for information
and advice, repeatedly. Her preferred actions online are sarcasm and
snipping.snip
Darren, you're new here? Wait........
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Old March 19th 04, 12:05 AM
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Scot Kamins wrote:

In article ,
Roscoe wrote:

Reid Goldsborough wrote:

SNIP
7) The history is very cool -- a
quick search indicates that James I was the guy who sponsored the King
James Bible -- it's named after him -- and James I had some
interesting ideas about the divine rights of kings.
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There is no way that you believe this.... It is a joke, Right?
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I don't see the problem here. From the inside flap of the Nelson Bibles
version of the King James; Reissue edition (June 1, 1982 ):

SNIP

What am I missing?

Scot Kamins


K... the little smile face was missing........ here it is :-)
BTY. I could addd to your statement but will not. I do go to
church. I think...... forget it.......
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Old March 19th 04, 05:05 AM
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perhaps someone with lots of time on their hands could document this and
send it off to CW asking that they print an apology to all the people that
he borrowed from.

"mark" wrote in message
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From: Scot Kamins


What am I missing?


Reid did this last summer. He trolled for information on a couple of

subjects,
turned around and wrote an article for Coin World, for which he was paid.
Article was sans mention of RCC, let alone credit to those who did the

research
for him.

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Old March 19th 04, 12:14 PM
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Reid Goldsborough wrote:
"This coin, part of a large emission of the same variety, was in all
likelihood minted to build up the Hellenic navy ....
.... men such as Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle, and the
genesis of Western science, philosophy, and civilization."

I counted six major errors, and one arguable point in those two
paragraphs.

It is clear from your four years here that coins make you feel
something inside, and, as a consequence, you post. When you do, the
distance between fact and value is apparent.

Michael
"rational empiricist"

(P.S. seven errors)
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Old March 19th 04, 04:47 PM
Reid Goldsborough
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On 19 Mar 2004 03:16:18 GMT, ustion (mark) wrote:

Reid did this last summer. He trolled for information on a couple of subjects,
turned around and wrote an article for Coin World, for which he was paid.
Article was sans mention of RCC, let alone credit to those who did the research
for him.


What an idiotic statement. And you are an absolute idiot for saying
it. The current discussion is about a new coin purchase of "DrZ." I
posted how and why I liked the coin, even though it's not a coin in
one of my collecting areas. I am NOT writing an article about his
coin!

And you continue to post absolute rubbish about my letting others do
research for me. It's just mindless junktalk, I know, and it must be
really fun for you to do it. Again -- you might save this for next
time you feel an urge to say something idiotic like this: For research
I read everything I can find about a subject, from published articles,
books, and Web sites. I interview experts over the phone and in
person. I talk to laypeople -- collectors. I often ask in online
discussion groups if anyone knows about a subject. For a typical
project the amount of information I get from these discussion groups
is relatively very small. And I have never "stolen" anybody's posts
here, not a single sentence ... and all the other rubbish that get's
thrown about here.

I quote people when I use their words and have permission to do so. I
credit people when they've provided original ideas or information.
When I read the same information here that I have read in a half dozen
other places, I don't credit the person who said it here. This, again,
would lead to a ridiculous sentence such as:

One good piece of advice is, "Buy the book before you buy the coin,"
as Joe Schmo said in rec.collecting.coins, as Jim Bob said in such and
such article, as Bo Peep said in such and such book, and as Mary
Poppins said at such and such Web site.

I've mentioned RCC as one online place to go for online numismatic
conversation in numerous things I've written.

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Old March 19th 04, 05:01 PM
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On 19 Mar 2004 03:14:12 -0800, (Michael E.
Marotta) wrote:

I counted six major errors, and one arguable point in those two
paragraphs.


You and Anka have evolved into conjoined twins. You both would rather
be sarcastic and snipe away than actually contribute something useful
to the conversation. I know. If you do spell out the "six major
errors," you open yourself to being shown in error. Oh, you don't want
to "write my article for me." So instead of adding substance you just
do the gnat thing.

By the way, I'm not writing an article about Athenian Owls, but I
suspect I will at some point. I've already collected about two dozen
articles and books about the subject, with maybe a dozen more that
I'll be looking through next time I'm at the ANS library. I've also
looked at countless coins, from high-end auction catalogs, on bourse
floors, and on eBay. I also enjoy discussing this and other numismatic
areas I've specialized in with dealers at coin shows and with the
researchers/numismatists I've talked to on the phone and in person as
well. I've done all this thus far to further the appreciation of my
own collection. Owls are one area I specialize in -- I have a fairly
sizable collection of various varieties, from the first archaic Owl to
modern coins and medals whose design was inspired by the Athenian Owl.
I find that the more I learn about a particular coin I have, the more
enjoyable it is to look at it. But eventually I'll likely channel this
knowledge into both printed works and Web pages, as I already have
about other numismatic subjects.

The message I posted wasn't to "get other people to do research for
me" or any of the other rubbish that gets strewn about here but to
share a numismatic peak experience I had, a revelation I found
fascination about a coin of mine that resulted from some fairly
involved research.

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Old March 19th 04, 06:50 PM
Darren
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On 19 Mar 2004 03:14:12 -0800, Michael E. Marotta wrote:



It is clear from your four years here that coins make you feel
something inside, and, as a consequence, you post. When you do, the
distance between fact and value is apparent.

Michael
"rational empiricist"

(P.S. seven errors)


Well I got to 14 errors. Obviously I'm way too clever to point these errors
out as you wouldn't understand what I was saying and it would be just too
tedious for me.

Darren
'feeling childish'
 




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