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Didn't you mean to ask, "Where is the dubbed stuff?" Check the
alignment tape auction. later, ron Andy wrote: why is the same stuff listed over and over or you just reuseing the old pictures whare is the new stuff? |
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all tapes are dubbed- from the 2nd and 3rd generation masters at the
tape factory so ?? see any auction for tapes on ebay- they're all "dubbed' |
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Mostly correct--to be more specific, the alignment tape listed is a
homemade dubbed copy and not the original from the manufacturer. later, ron 66FOURDOOR wrote: all tapes are dubbed- from the 2nd and 3rd generation masters at the tape factory so ?? see any auction for tapes on ebay- they're all "dubbed' |
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mostly correct- to be more specific, the alignment tape listed will
align your vintage 8-track deck to correct head tracking for both azimuth and head height- and the tape has received stellar positive feedback on Ebay, take a look yourself later, trip |
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On 14 Sep 2005 16:15:06 -0700, "yodedude2" wrote:
Mostly correct--to be more specific, the alignment tape listed is a homemade dubbed copy and not the original from the manufacturer. later, ron snip To be specific, the GC Electronics/Audiotex alignment cart isn't a real, first generation tape, either. It's a mass produced dub of a questionable master. So, when you figure that the real Audiotex tape, IF it's in good condition, which is doubtful, has a frequency response tolerance of ±4 dB (per their own published specs), and you can see where this, as well as the "Aspen Deck Tester", aren't very good for real alignment purposes on their own merits. By the time the fraudster dubs off a copy using cheap home grade machines, the tolderances are even wider, more like ±10 dB through the band, and the reference fluxivity is nowhere near where it's supposed to be. This makes his frauds unsuitable for even minor troubleshooting work. Looking at real alignment tapes from MRL, they have a frequency response tolerance on their frequency runs of around ±.5 dB, and the reference fluxivity is about ±.2 dB. These are "one off" laboratory grade tapes, not mass produced crap, like the Audiotex. This isn't to say that the real Audiotex can't be useful for some quick troubleshooting, but the final arbiter of performance comes from a real alignment tape or cartridge, not some cheesy dub. Many of Nortronics' cartridge and cassette test tapes were mass dubbed as well, but were calibrated, in that the master would be "predistorted" to take into account the vagaries of the duplicating line equipment, and thus, they'd come out pretty close to the "one off" tape in terms of fluxivity. Azimuth on the slave machines was also checked before each run. I have both the duplicated and the "one off" alignment cassettes from Nortronics, and there's a barely perceptable difference in the reference fluxivity, in the order of .5 dB, and the same for the freq run tones, when compared to a new MRL alignment cassette, thus making them a useful tool. There is no difference in azimuth between the two, either. That fraud tape I got from 66fourdoor, aka Chuckie Noodles, was all over the map, and the fluxivity was out in the thin air somewhere. The azimuth also proved to be around 7° off, enough to cause serious loss of high frequency energy on playback of any deck aligned with it. Thus, 66fourdoor's "alignment cartriges" on eBay are counterfeit frauds. Feel free to cc my analysis to eBay's "Safe Harbor" section for action. Caveat emptor. dB |
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Hey, you're the guy who recommended that everyone use an old Boston
cart to align their tape deck heads. I think it fair to say that the alignment tape listed is not an original Audiotex alignment tape but a homemade dubbed copy. Nor will it be the item pictured. Be advised that the listing is less than honest. later, ron ..... 66FOURDOOR wrote: mostly correct- .... |
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correction- the tape pictured is not the same one that buyers get- as
they are all the same- I list the same picture each time just like the 8-track motors- no reason to list a new picture for a bulk item, when each item is identical the Boston cart works fine to align a deck- Columbia's track assignment and QC were the best there was in the 1970's I've compared a deck aligned using the Boston cart, to an alignment cart- exactly the same setting. but you won't have the various high-end tones with the Boston cart- so you need a good ear to use the Boston cart to align a deck later, trip |
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Further correction: If you make homemade dubbed copies one at a time,
they can't possibly be 'all the same'. Another further correction: The listing states that it is for an Auditex (sp?) alignment cartridge. It is not. It's for a homemade dubbed copy. You should correct your listing because it is wrong, false, misrepresentative, and dishonest. It reflects badly on your character and reputation. Bottom line: The auction says it's for something that it isn't, and the picture is of something else. You could fix it in five minutes, but you prefer to be deceptive. End of story. later, ron .... 66FOURDOOR wrote: correction- the tape pictured is not the same one that buyers get- as they are all the same- I list the same picture each time just like the 8-track motors- no reason to list a new picture for a bulk item, when each item is identical the Boston cart works fine to align a deck- Columbia's track assignment and QC were the best there was in the 1970's I've compared a deck aligned using the Boston cart, to an alignment cart- exactly the same setting. but you won't have the various high-end tones with the Boston cart- so you need a good ear to use the Boston cart to align a deck later, trip |
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bottom line- all the feedback for the alignment tapes is all positive-
how bad can it be ? see for yourself http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAP...3D66fourdoor&= ssPageName=3DSTRK:ME:UFS If you want fast shipment, this is the seller to deal with! Thanks from l=E9on NL Buyer trackernl ( 165) Sep-16-05 00:01 5806028149 Reply by 66fourdoor: AUDIOTEX 8-TRACK TAPE PLAYER ALIGNMENT TAPE-VINTAGE-$$$ Sep-16-05 03:09 Smooth transaction. Great Ebayer. Highly recommended! Buyer borg ( 540) Sep-12-05 14:39 5803544555 Reply by 66fourdoor: AUDIOTEX 8-TRACK TAPE PLAYER ALIGNMENT TAPE-VINTAGE-$$$ Sep-12-05 17:57 Fast shiping A ok A+++++++++++++++ Buyer strohs05 ( 46) Sep-06-05 15:19 5801180576 Reply by 66fourdoor: AUDIOTEX 8-TRACK TAPE PLAYER ALIGNMENT TAPE-VINTAGE Sep-06-05 15:38 Great EBAY Thanks Buyer mazilla ( 374) Sep-01-05 21:17 5803519006 Reply by 66fourdoor: AUDIOTEX 8-TRACK TAPE PLAYER ALIGNMENT TAPE- Sep-02-05 05:26 Very fast transaction. Highly recommend...!! Buyer spiker32 ( 555) Aug-24-05 17:21 5798742957 Reply by 66fourdoor: AUDIOTEX 8-TRACK TAPE PLAYER ALIGNMENT TAPE-VINTAGE Aug-25-05 04:25 very fast A++++++++++++ Buyer similacrem ( 98) Aug-11-05 08:00 5795975725 Reply by 66fourdoor: AUDIOTEX 8-TRACK TAPE PLAYER ALIGNMENT TAPE-VINTAGE-$$$ Aug-11-05 11:12 Item as described. Professional transaction. Fast shipping. Buyer f1reverb ( 287) Aug-05-05 01:57 5778493425 Reply by 66fourdoor: AUDIOTEX 8-TRACK TAPE PLAYER ALIGNMENT TAPE-VINTAGE Aug-05-05 03:54 Wow, what a great item. Used it already, and identified the problem. Thanks 66! Buyer nivekb12 ( 83) Aug-04-05 15:24 5793571937 Reply by 66fourdoor: AUDIOTEX 8-TRACK TAPE PLAYER ALIGNMENT TAPE-VINTAGE Aug-04-05 18:56 As described . Thank you. A++++++++++ Buyer allstats ( 374) Aug-03-05 09:02 5791365108 Reply by 66fourdoor: AUDIOTEX 8-TRACK TAPE PLAYER ALIGNMENT TAPE-VINTAGE-$$$ Aug-03-05 14:41 |
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66FOURDOOR wrote: bottom line- all the feedback for the alignment tapes is all positive- how bad can it be ? .... Bottom line: The auction says it's for something that it isn't, and the picture is of something else. It is fraudulent, and you know it to be so. You could fix it in five minutes, but you prefer to be deceptive and dishonest. This fact reveals more about your character than a million feedbacks ever could. End of story. later, ron |
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