I believe I've single handedly been reponsible for oil pricesplummeting

Scott Stevenson wrote:
On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 09:23:16 -0500, "Mr. Jaggers"
lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com wrote:

Jud wrote:
Apparently most have missed my 'smiley' at the end of my post. It
looks like this 8-). I really had no intention of starting a
political forum with this. Just stating that the price of European
gas is related to taxation. James is a good guy in my book too. Oh,
and BTW, I don't have a job anymore. I am retired, and highly
recommend it!

Ah, we see, living off the dole, eh? Wait, so am I. But in my case
a state dole, not a Federal one. Retired life is good, innit?

I didn't miss the smiley, in fact, it was an emoticon with shades!
But I couldn't resist jumping into the fray (or starting one),
because I'm in a bad mood this morning for not having had a proper
coin fix now in who knows how long. Missed ANA, too, grrrrr.

So I'm OK with leaving the political angle as well. Hey, how 'bout
them Cubs?

James,

By now you should know that any mention of any success by a certain
National League baseball team is the equivalent of mentioning the name
of Shakespeare's "Scottish Play" while in a theater.

Now, go outside, turn around three times, and spit. We'll wait for
you.

take care,
Scott

Done.

James

Bruce Remick wrote:
"Mr. Jaggers" lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com wrote in message
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Bruce Remick wrote:
"Mr. Jaggers" lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com wrote in message
...
Jud wrote:
Mr. Jaggers wrote:

Even at the peak prices of a couple of weeks ago we did not pay
anywhere near what Europeans have been paying for years and
years. A quick calculation (1.15 pounds per liter x 3.76 litres
per gallon x 1.9943 dollars per pound) reveals that you are
currently "down to" paying the equivalent of $8.62 per gallon. That
is, if my math is correct.

James

James, thats how the Europeans pay for their socialized medical
care! They would be paying practically the same as us if it
weren't for that. Keep that in mind on election day! 8-)

OK, young man, I'm gonna rise to that gauntlet and tell you that
you're full of...let's see, how do I say this tactfully...ah,
prunes. Yes, that's it, prunes, what my Sainted Dad always said I
was full of. He was right most of the time.

James

What Jud said is what I've always been led to believe, both from the
Sainted US Press and from various European government officials.
It's the relatively high taxes on stuff like fuels that funds much
of the socialized bennies over there. If you're disputing this, I'd
be interested in your take.

I don't dispute that, but I look at things from a different angle.

snips that burned my scissors

I was just looking at the hospital thing where those of us who can
pay or can afford insurance pay as we need fixing, while the
socialist countries use taxation (on fuel, etc.) to ensure everyone
is covered. The ultimate in group insurance, I guess. I still fume
that during my government career I paid the same Blue Cross premium
for my wife and I as my co-worker with his seven kids. A bit of
subsidy perhaps. I'll be damned though if I was going to have five
more kids just to take advantage of the system.

I'm sorry to hear about your scissors, but you can still buy a nice pair of
8" Fiskars for under $12.

James

"sgt23" wrote in message
...

You tell us. As soon as I feel that there is someone out there who
actually
knows, I will campaign on behalf of him/her as our next President, even if
I
have to campaign on behalf of a write-in.



Me either ,Im not even sure I want to vote this year.

Well we are in a war so I guess we "need to stay the course" so that mean
definitely vote for McCain. After all, "you don't change horses midstream".
McCain provides the most continuity.

On Aug 3, 8:27�pm, Jud wrote:
Mr. Jaggers wrote:
Even at the peak prices of a couple of weeks ago we did not pay anywhere
near what Europeans have been paying for years and years. �A quick
calculation (1.15 pounds per liter x 3.76 litres per gallon x 1.9943 dollars
per pound) reveals that you are currently "down to" paying the equivalent of
$8.62 per gallon. �That is, if my math is correct.

James

James, thats how the Europeans pay for their socialized medical care!
They would be paying practically the same as us if it weren't for
that. Keep that in mind on election day! �8-)

Anybody who thinks there are real market forces moving gas prices is,
well,
just nuts. This is not supply and demand -- this is a monopoly that
is
adjusted to maximize profits. Of course gas prices are going down --
they
alwaty go down $1-$1.50 before an election. Karl Rove makes one phone
call.
In December they will creep back over $4, just like clockwork.

If we had elected Colonel Sanders in 2000, chicken would be $10/lb.

On Aug 5, 12:22*am, winwin wrote:
On Aug 3, 8:27 pm, Jud wrote:

Mr. Jaggers wrote:
Even at the peak prices of a couple of weeks ago we did not pay anywhere
near what Europeans have been paying for years and years. A quick
calculation (1.15 pounds per liter x 3.76 litres per gallon x 1.9943 dollars
per pound) reveals that you are currently "down to" paying the equivalent of
$8.62 per gallon. That is, if my math is correct.

James

James, thats how the Europeans pay for their socialized medical care!
They would be paying practically the same as us if it weren't for
that. Keep that in mind on election day! 8-)

Anybody who thinks there are real market forces moving gas prices is,
well,
just nuts. *This is not supply and demand -- this is a monopoly that
is
adjusted to maximize profits. *Of course gas prices are going down --
they
alwaty go down $1-$1.50 before an election. *Karl Rove makes one phone
call.
In December they will creep back over $4, just like clockwork.

If we had elected Colonel Sanders in 2000, chicken would be $10/lb.

We allow it and do nothing about gas prices, but set back and crack
jokes, laught at others who want to talk about it, and predicted the
worse. So I guess we are our own doom sayers. Maybe we deserve what we
are getting?

sgt23 wrote:
On Aug 5, 12:22 am, winwin wrote:
On Aug 3, 8:27 pm, Jud wrote:

Mr. Jaggers wrote:
Even at the peak prices of a couple of weeks ago we did not pay
anywhere near what Europeans have been paying for years and years.
A quick calculation (1.15 pounds per liter x 3.76 litres per
gallon x 1.9943 dollars per pound) reveals that you are currently
"down to" paying the equivalent of $8.62 per gallon. That is, if
my math is correct.

James

James, thats how the Europeans pay for their socialized medical
care! They would be paying practically the same as us if it weren't
for that. Keep that in mind on election day! 8-)

Anybody who thinks there are real market forces moving gas prices is,
well,
just nuts. This is not supply and demand -- this is a monopoly that
is
adjusted to maximize profits. Of course gas prices are going down --
they
alwaty go down $1-$1.50 before an election. Karl Rove makes one phone
call.
In December they will creep back over $4, just like clockwork.

If we had elected Colonel Sanders in 2000, chicken would be $10/lb.

We allow it and do nothing about gas prices, but set back and crack
jokes, laught at others who want to talk about it, and predicted the
worse. So I guess we are our own doom sayers. Maybe we deserve what we
are getting?

No one is entitled to a certain price or availability of anything. Either
or both of them can and do change in a complex economic pas de deux that is
far beyond our current ability to comprehend, so rather than investigate on
our own to learn what is happening, we conjure up notions of some sinister,
cackling Wizard of Oz watching us helplessly dangle from marionette strings.
Karl Rove is many things, but even he cannot just "make one phone call" and
force the market. Anybody who claims that we are not subject to real market
forces needs to provide proof that the situation is otherwise. Anyone who
claims that gasoline prices "always go down $1-$1.50 before an election"
needs to provide historical records that verify his claim. I accept neither
a conspiratorial explanation nor a fatalistic response. Neither should you,
but you do what makes sense to you.

To stay on topic, I am still waiting, after all these years, for someone to
properly explain coin prices without fabricating some elaborate myth.
Something tells me I will wait forever.

James

"Mr. Jaggers" lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com wrote in message
...
Karl Rove is many things, but even he cannot just "make one phone call"
and force the market. Anybody who claims that we are not subject to real
market forces needs to provide proof that the situation is otherwise.
Anyone who claims that gasoline prices "always go down $1-$1.50 before an
election" needs to provide historical records that verify his claim. I
accept neither a conspiratorial explanation nor a fatalistic response.

You are a lot of fun at parties, eh?

Ï "Bruce Remick" Ýãñáøå óôï ìÞíõìá
...


What Jud said is what I've always been led to believe, both from the
Sainted US Press and from various European government officials. It's the
relatively high taxes on stuff like fuels that funds much of the
socialized bennies over there.

Greece has huge taxes on fuels (almost same as in Germany, England or any
other EU country) but spends far less than any other European government for
social care, etc!
How is that?
Greedy politicians?...


If you're disputing this, I'd be interested in your take.

PC wrote:
"Mr. Jaggers" lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com wrote in message
...
Karl Rove is many things, but even he cannot just "make one phone
call" and force the market. Anybody who claims that we are not
subject to real market forces needs to provide proof that the
situation is otherwise. Anyone who claims that gasoline prices
"always go down $1-$1.50 before an election" needs to provide
historical records that verify his claim. I accept neither a
conspiratorial explanation nor a fatalistic response.

You are a lot of fun at parties, eh?

Depends on the party.

James

On Aug 5, 12:22�am, winwin wrote:
Anybody who thinks there are real market forces moving gas prices is,
well,
just nuts. �This is not supply and demand -- this is a monopoly that
is
adjusted to maximize profits. �Of course gas prices are going down --
they
alwaty go down $1-$1.50 before an election. �Karl Rove makes one phone
call.
In December they will creep back over $4, just like clockwork.

If we had elected Colonel Sanders in 2000, chicken would be $10/lb.

Er, Harland Sanders died December 16, 1980, before Reagan took office.

Jerry
Ooo, a nit! Let's pick it! :-)