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How old is counterfeiting of coins?
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How old is counterfeiting of coins?
On 5 Nov 2005 04:40:33 -0800, "stonej"
wrote: http://www.starofmysore.com/main.asp...news&item=1215 This link must have become dated very quickly -- no article returned. This is an Indian newspaper, so the article no doubt talked about counterfeits of very early Indian coins. I don't know how it dated them. Counterfeiting of coins began when coins began. Counterfeiting existed before coins as well, with crooks making plated fakes of uninscribed gold, electrum, and silver bullion ingots. But there's lots of debate on who minted the first coins. Many Indians feels the Indians did. Depending on how you define "coin," many Chinese feel the Chinese did. Some Western scholars agree, many disagree. I think the Lydians and Chinese came out with the first coins at about the same time, c. 600 BC, but the Chinese had earlier cast bronze precoins in the shape of miniature hoes, knives, and so on. -- Email: (delete "remove this") Consumer: http://rg.ancients.info/guide Connoisseur: http://rg.ancients.info/glom Counterfeit: http://rg.ancients.info/bogos |
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"Reid Goldsborough" wrote in message ... On 5 Nov 2005 04:40:33 -0800, "stonej" wrote: http://www.starofmysore.com/main.asp...news&item=1215 This link must have become dated very quickly -- no article returned. This is an Indian newspaper, so the article no doubt talked about counterfeits of very early Indian coins. I don't know how it dated them. Counterfeiting of coins began when coins began. Counterfeiting existed before coins as well, with crooks making plated fakes of uninscribed gold, electrum, and silver bullion ingots. But there's lots of debate on who minted the first coins. Many Indians feels the Indians did. Depending on how you define "coin," many Chinese feel the Chinese did. Some Western scholars agree, many disagree. I think the Lydians and Chinese came out with the first coins at about the same time, c. 600 BC, but the Chinese had earlier cast bronze precoins in the shape of miniature hoes, knives, and so on. -- Email: (delete "remove this") Consumer: http://rg.ancients.info/guide Connoisseur: http://rg.ancients.info/glom Counterfeit: http://rg.ancients.info/bogos According to the book "The Counterfeit Coin Story" counterfeits appeared very quickly after the first ever coins were produced, there's one illustrated dated to 600 to 550 B.C. Billy |
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note.boy wrote: According to the book "The Counterfeit Coin Story" counterfeits appeared very quickly after the first ever coins were produced, there's one illustrated dated to 600 to 550 B.C. Billy Heck, I'll bet before coins when there was stamped bullion those stamps were counterfeited as well. Even in Sumer there was probably someone faking something of value. Some people will do anything for money. |
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On 5 Nov 2005 16:28:53 -0800, "Jorg Lueke"
wrote: Heck, I'll bet before coins when there was stamped bullion those stamps were counterfeited as well. I think you're trying to say what I just said, three posts up in this thread: Counterfeiting existed before coins as well, with crooks making plated fakes of uninscribed gold, electrum, and silver bullion ingots. There's no reason to bet or guess about this. Extant examples exist of such precoin fakes. -- Email: (delete "remove this") Consumer: http://rg.ancients.info/guide Connoisseur: http://rg.ancients.info/glom Counterfeit: http://rg.ancients.info/bogos |
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Reid Goldsborough wrote: Extant examples exist... Alliterative, but redundant. ~Anka |
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Reid Goldsborough wrote: On 5 Nov 2005 16:28:53 -0800, "Jorg Lueke" wrote: Heck, I'll bet before coins when there was stamped bullion those stamps were counterfeited as well. I think you're trying to say what I just said, three posts up in this thread: Counterfeiting existed before coins as well, with crooks making plated fakes of uninscribed gold, electrum, and silver bullion ingots. There's no reason to bet or guess about this. Extant examples exist of such precoin fakes. Reid, Reid, Reid. What am I going to do about you? I didn't read your previous post, I didn't want to chance being irritated. Since your name-calling and psychological projection ****ed me off last week I'd rather just ignore you completely. I think that's best. You have proven unable to discuss, you are just interested in yourself. Even the mockery of Reid Trollsborough was above your head. Interesting that both you and Nick assumed subterfuge was intended. But there's that projection. Anyway, I hate to be like Nick and be a public plonker so I'll just promise to ignore you from now on in this forum. In moderated places we may be able to interact since you have to suppress your character flaws. So long foul troll, I've spent to much time on you all ready. |
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On 5 Nov 2005 20:18:38 -0800, "Jorg Lueke"
wrote: Reid, Reid, Reid. What am I going to do about you? I didn't read your previous post, I didn't want to chance being irritated. Since your name-calling and psychological projection ****ed me off last week I'd rather just ignore you completely. I think that's best. You have proven unable to discuss, you are just interested in yourself. Even the mockery of Reid Trollsborough was above your head. Interesting that both you and Nick assumed subterfuge was intended. But there's that projection. Mockery? That's what you're contending that you were doing? What you were doing wasn't mockery. It was disruptive. When you start multiple threads using a made-up name, that's disruptive. When you only post responses in a thread that attempt to ape another's words, that's disruptive. It's what six-year-olds do, or drunken miscreants. And you're saying you're above my head with your actions? That's very interesting. After posting over a dozen of these purely disruptive posts over the past few days, posts with zero content, post that merely attempt to disrupt, now you're taking the high road of killfiling? That's also very interesting. You're a stand-up guy. Enjoy your killfile. Feel free again to look stupid by guessing at something that I just answered, as you did in this thread. Feel free to continue posting under your Reid Trollsborough sockpuppet. Feel free to post dozens of more zero-content messages. It's a free world. Just don't pretend you're honorable and high-minded. You're the exact opposite. -- Email: (delete "remove this") Consumer: http://rg.ancients.info/guide Connoisseur: http://rg.ancients.info/glom Counterfeit: http://rg.ancients.info/bogos |
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On 5 Nov 2005 19:13:01 -0800, "Anka" wrote:
Extant examples exist... Alliterative, but redundant. This is veritably true. -- Email: (delete "remove this") Consumer: http://rg.ancients.info/guide Connoisseur: http://rg.ancients.info/glom Counterfeit: http://rg.ancients.info/bogos |
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"Reid Goldsborough" wrote in message ... On 5 Nov 2005 04:40:33 -0800, "stonej" wrote: http://www.starofmysore.com/main.asp...news&item=1215 This link must have become dated very quickly -- no article returned. This is an Indian newspaper, so the article no doubt talked about counterfeits of very early Indian coins. I don't know how it dated them. I sent the whole page to myself and filed it away.. If you want it I can forwarded it to some email address. |
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