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New "dollar" coin(s)
Recalling that dollars, pounds, marks, etc. were defined originally as
one twentieth of an ounce of gold (they were, weren't they?), I put the word "dollar" (backed by nothing but the fact that the IRS will accept such "dollars" as payment in taxes) in quotation marks. And the reason for the parenthetical "s" is that the mint's thinking in terms of many, many dollar coins, one for each el presidente: http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/$1coin/index.cfm?flash=yes. The good news is the reverse design: Lady Liberty herself (http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/$1coin/index.cfm?action=reverse). (Tho' I wonder if the back of the Stainmaker dollar coin will be of the Lewinsky pig.) Finally, the "edge-incused" inscriptions (http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/$1coin/index.cfm?action=EdgeIncused) will be of interest to long-time coin collectors like myself: I've only seen such on, I think, a couple of Greek coins I have. Edge-incused inscriptions, of course, can't really be displayed, and that's going to be a pain to collectors of these dollar coins because the date and mint mark are going to be "edge-incused" (along with "IN GOD WE TRUST" and "E. PLURIBUS UNUM")! |
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On Feb 13, 10:38 am, Andy MacAskill
wrote: Edge-incused inscriptions, of course, can't really be displayed, and that's going to be a pain to collectors of these dollar coins because the date and mint mark are going to be "edge-incused" (along with "IN GOD WE TRUST" and "E. PLURIBUS UNUM")! I wonder if PCGS/NGC are working on a slabbing design that will create a prism effect near the edge of the coin, thus allowing the inscription to be read when viewing the obverse/reverse. For the Whitman-esque books, we are out of luck, aside from them printing the order. I purchased two sets of the books, one for Philadelphia and the other for Denver, as the books were not designed with multiple mints in mind. Les http://life-of-coins.blogspot.com/ |
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Andy MacAskill wrote:
Finally, the "edge-incused" inscriptions (http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/$1coin/index.cfm?action=EdgeIncused) will be of interest to long-time coin collectors like myself: I've only seen such on, I think, a couple of Greek coins I have. Huh? Such edge inscriptions have been in use for many years in many countries. Sometimes they are incused, sometimes raised, and in some cases they are a combination of, say, incused lettering and a milled edge. Usually there is some kind of national motto, sometimes the face value, or just ornaments. And I have a few pieces where the edge is the only place that has the name of the issuing country. :-) Christian |
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"Andy MacAskill" wrote in message news:BXkAh.3264$5M1.180@trndny01... Recalling that dollars, pounds, marks, etc. were defined originally as one twentieth of an ounce of gold (they were, weren't they?), I put the word "dollar" (backed by nothing but the fact that the IRS will accept such "dollars" as payment in taxes) in quotation marks. Those units of currency were not so defined, even the ones represented by "etc." And the reason for the parenthetical "s" is that the mint's thinking in terms of many, many dollar coins, one for each el presidente: http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/$1coin/index.cfm?flash=yes. Several Latin American countries have a presidente. The United States of America has a President. The good news is the reverse design: Lady Liberty herself (http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/$1coin/index.cfm?action=reverse). (Tho' I wonder if the back of the Stainmaker dollar coin will be of the Lewinsky pig.) And the point of this crude statement would be...? Finally, the "edge-incused" inscriptions (http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/$1coin/index.cfm?action=EdgeIncused) will be of interest to long-time coin collectors like myself: I've only seen such on, I think, a couple of Greek coins I have. Early half cents and large cents had lettered edges, as did early half dollars and dollars. Edge inscriptions may be seen on literally hundreds of different world coin types, past and present. Edge-incused inscriptions, of course, can't really be displayed, and that's going to be a pain to collectors of these dollar coins because the date and mint mark are going to be "edge-incused" (along with "IN GOD WE TRUST" and "E. PLURIBUS UNUM")! I find that people make their own pains. Would that our problems were no bigger than that. James |
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wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 13, 10:38 am, Andy MacAskill wrote: Edge-incused inscriptions, of course, can't really be displayed, and that's going to be a pain to collectors of these dollar coins because the date and mint mark are going to be "edge-incused" (along with "IN GOD WE TRUST" and "E. PLURIBUS UNUM")! I wonder if PCGS/NGC are working on a slabbing design that will create a prism effect near the edge of the coin, thus allowing the inscription to be read when viewing the obverse/reverse. For the Whitman-esque books, we are out of luck, aside from them printing the order. I purchased two sets of the books, one for Philadelphia and the other for Denver, as the books were not designed with multiple mints in mind. Les http://life-of-coins.blogspot.com/ The whole thing is curious. The mint apparently encourages collecting these presidential dollars, yet "hides" the date and mint around the edge of the coin. Although many new collectors will probably insert one each in special albums in presidential sequence regardless of date or mint, a visible date and mintmark on the coin's surface has always been the big appeal to album collectors. If the coins in a series can't be displayed where the dates and mints are visible, there may be less incentive to collect that series. The numerous bullion coins probably wouldn't be collected anywhere near as much if they were undated. Bruce |
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"Andy MacAskill" wrote in message news:BXkAh.3264$5M1.180@trndny01... Recalling that dollars, pounds, marks, etc. were defined originally as one twentieth of an ounce of gold (they were, weren't they?), I put the word "dollar" (backed by nothing but the fact that the IRS will accept such "dollars" as payment in taxes) in quotation marks. And the reason for the parenthetical "s" is that the mint's thinking in terms of many, many dollar coins, one for each el presidente: http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/$1coin/index.cfm?flash=yes. The good news is the reverse design: Lady Liberty herself (http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/$1coin/index.cfm?action=reverse). (Tho' I wonder if the back of the Stainmaker dollar coin will be of the Lewinsky pig.) Finally, the "edge-incused" inscriptions (http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/$1coin/index.cfm?action=EdgeIncused) will be of interest to long-time coin collectors like myself: I've only seen such on, I think, a couple of Greek coins I have. Edge-incused inscriptions, of course, can't really be displayed, and that's going to be a pain to collectors of these dollar coins because the date and mint mark are going to be "edge-incused" (along with "IN GOD WE TRUST" and "E. PLURIBUS UNUM")! By the way, how are things with you, Ewan? James |
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I have a suggestion for US coins with inscriptions on the edges. Let them
have E Pluribus Unum and In God we Trust, leaving more space on the front and back for the subject, and of course, the date. Tony "Bruce Remick" wrote in message ... wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 13, 10:38 am, Andy MacAskill wrote: Edge-incused inscriptions, of course, can't really be displayed, and that's going to be a pain to collectors of these dollar coins because the date and mint mark are going to be "edge-incused" (along with "IN GOD WE TRUST" and "E. PLURIBUS UNUM")! I wonder if PCGS/NGC are working on a slabbing design that will create a prism effect near the edge of the coin, thus allowing the inscription to be read when viewing the obverse/reverse. For the Whitman-esque books, we are out of luck, aside from them printing the order. I purchased two sets of the books, one for Philadelphia and the other for Denver, as the books were not designed with multiple mints in mind. Les http://life-of-coins.blogspot.com/ The whole thing is curious. The mint apparently encourages collecting these presidential dollars, yet "hides" the date and mint around the edge of the coin. Although many new collectors will probably insert one each in special albums in presidential sequence regardless of date or mint, a visible date and mintmark on the coin's surface has always been the big appeal to album collectors. If the coins in a series can't be displayed where the dates and mints are visible, there may be less incentive to collect that series. The numerous bullion coins probably wouldn't be collected anywhere near as much if they were undated. Bruce ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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Andy MacAskill wrote:
Recalling that dollars, pounds, marks, etc. were defined originally as one twentieth of an ounce of gold (they were, weren't they?), I put the word "dollar" (backed by nothing but the fact that the IRS will accept such "dollars" as payment in taxes) in quotation marks. And the reason for the parenthetical "s" is that the mint's thinking in terms of many, many dollar coins, one for each el presidente: http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/$1coin/index.cfm?flash=yes. The good news is the reverse design: Lady Liberty herself (http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/$1coin/index.cfm?action=reverse). (Tho' I wonder if the back of the Stainmaker dollar coin will be of the Lewinsky pig.) Finally, the "edge-incused" inscriptions (http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/$1coin/index.cfm?action=EdgeIncused) will be of interest to long-time coin collectors like myself: I've only seen such on, I think, a couple of Greek coins I have. Current UK £1 and ¢ 2 coins, along with €2 coins, all have edge lettering. I agree with other posters in that the date and mintmark should be on a flat side and in fact I have always considered the side of the coin with the date to be the 'obverse' (of course, your definition may differ) Edge-incused inscriptions, of course, can't really be displayed, and that's going to be a pain to collectors of these dollar coins because the date and mint mark are going to be "edge-incused" (along with "IN GOD WE TRUST" and "E. PLURIBUS UNUM")! Someone posted links to grading company announcements regarding edge-lettering visibility in their slabs in a previous thread. -- ___________________________________________ ____ _______________ Regards, | |\ ____ | | | | |\ Michael G. Koerner May they | | | | | | rise again! Appleton, Wisconsin USA | | | | | | ___________________________________________ | | | | | | _______________ |
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Bland Allison wrote:
Still, the date and the Mo are on the reverse which seems perfectly logical to me. Yes, that I found quite surprising too when I read about the edge lettering of the presidential dollars. All these coins have the same edge mottos - fine. Year and mintmark, however, which may well vary, could have been put on either the obverse or reverse without making the artwork less impressive ... Christian |
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