(RCSD) Question About U.S. Precancels

Howdy - Doo...

Does anyone know if there were ever any hand stamped precancels? I
have the precancel catalogs from the Society, but don't have them
available at the moment.

I see cancels that "look" like precancels, but they look more like
parcel cancels - rectangular, with city and state between the
obligatory bars on top and bottom.

If there are private hand stamp precancels, oops... I have been
overlooking them and tossing them into my U.S. packets. I just don't
remember seeing anywhere where there were hand stamped precancels.

Tracy

On Aug 15, 11:06 am, wrote:
Howdy - Doo...

Does anyone know if there were ever any hand stamped precancels? I

Some time ago, a fellow offered a *.pdf
download from "Alabama Precancel Society"
10Mb
Author: Charles Adrion.

I am not au fait with a solution to
your query, but searching the file for
"handstamp" comes up frequently
and appears related to "scarce"

Time to put those precancels aside.

On Aug 14, 11:06 pm, wrote:
Howdy - Doo...

Does anyone know if there were ever any hand stamped precancels? I
have the precancel catalogs from the Society, but don't have them
available at the moment.

I see cancels that "look" like precancels, but they look more like
parcel cancels - rectangular, with city and state between the
obligatory bars on top and bottom.

If there are private hand stamp precancels, oops... I have been
overlooking them and tossing them into my U.S. packets. I just don't
remember seeing anywhere where there were hand stamped precancels.

Tracy



Hi Tracy:

In the US, precancels were printed by the government (called Bureau
precancels), printed locally under local Post Office control, or
handstamped locally (both of the last two catagories are called
"Locals").
There are thousands of different types and varieties, and precancel
collecting can be a major avocation.

In Canada, the precancels were mostly printed. There are enough that
collecting Canadian precancels is a very nice specialty area even
though the prices on them have risen recently.

Other countries that have issued precancels mostly for use on
newspapers a Belgium, Luxembourg, Netherlands, France,
Tunisia, Algeria, and Monaco. There are many precancels from
Belgium. The printed ones are listed in some foreign catalogs and
are collected in Europe in MNH condition.

Some prefer to collect them used as they are cheaper that way.
There are many more hand-stamped ones. The towns that issued
them are available on lists from specialist societies. as are the
years of use. You could get a collection of these totaling more
than a thousand different.

The precancels of Luxembourg are either very cheap or very hard
to find and expensive. A good specialty for a masocist. Tunisia,
Algeria and Monaco can be completely collected for a small
amount of money. The early precancels of France are expensive.
The rest are cheap and make a colorful little collection.

The precancels of the Netherlands are a well kept secret.

In addition, the countries of Austria, Hungary, France and
Turkey had laws that allowed the attaching of newspaper
stamps, newspaper tax stamps, and revenues to newspapers
before the newspapers were printed. This resulted in some
of these stamps being cancelled with newsprint.

An interesting collection is so see how many different
languages you can find on Austrian newspaper stamps.
These stamps are not all that rare in most cases, but
they are not all that easy to find either.

Blair

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 23:47:30 -0700, Rod
wrote:

On Aug 15, 11:06 am, wrote:
Howdy - Doo...

Does anyone know if there were ever any hand stamped precancels? I

Some time ago, a fellow offered a *.pdf
download from "Alabama Precancel Society"
10Mb
Author: Charles Adrion.

I am not au fait with a solution to
your query, but searching the file for
"handstamp" comes up frequently
and appears related to "scarce"

Time to put those precancels aside.

I can always e-mail him. In fact, I just did - about something else.
Coincidence? One wonders some times.

Tracy, try posting your Q to the Precancel Yahoo list. Although traffic
is extremely low, there are some very knowledgeable people that
subscribe (free). It's not affiliated with the Precancel society,
however a number of their members are subscribers.
John DeBoo

wrote:
Howdy - Doo...

Does anyone know if there were ever any hand stamped precancels? I
have the precancel catalogs from the Society, but don't have them
available at the moment.

I see cancels that "look" like precancels, but they look more like
parcel cancels - rectangular, with city and state between the
obligatory bars on top and bottom.

If there are private hand stamp precancels, oops... I have been
overlooking them and tossing them into my U.S. packets. I just don't
remember seeing anywhere where there were hand stamped precancels.

Tracy

On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 01:09:14 -0700, "Blair (TC)"
wrote:

Thanks Blair... I'll keep on looking for something about hand stamped
beasties, but I think I'm chasing a ghost.

I have a lot of U.S. and Belgian pre-cancels, a fair amount of France,
but not much from anywhere else.

If one were to collect various permutations of pre-cancels, it would
indeed be an interesting collection.

I'll have to look up if the older pre-cancels are still valid for
postage. Hmmm... I'd have to get a permit to use them anyway...

Well, thanks again for the primer.

Tracy

On Aug 14, 11:06 pm, wrote:
Howdy - Doo...

Does anyone know if there were ever any hand stamped precancels? I
have the precancel catalogs from the Society, but don't have them
available at the moment.

I see cancels that "look" like precancels, but they look more like
parcel cancels - rectangular, with city and state between the
obligatory bars on top and bottom.

If there are private hand stamp precancels, oops... I have been
overlooking them and tossing them into my U.S. packets. I just don't
remember seeing anywhere where there were hand stamped precancels.

Tracy



Hi Tracy:

In the US, precancels were printed by the government (called Bureau
precancels), printed locally under local Post Office control, or
handstamped locally (both of the last two catagories are called
"Locals").
There are thousands of different types and varieties, and precancel
collecting can be a major avocation.

In Canada, the precancels were mostly printed. There are enough that
collecting Canadian precancels is a very nice specialty area even
though the prices on them have risen recently.

Other countries that have issued precancels mostly for use on
newspapers a Belgium, Luxembourg, Netherlands, France,
Tunisia, Algeria, and Monaco. There are many precancels from
Belgium. The printed ones are listed in some foreign catalogs and
are collected in Europe in MNH condition.

Some prefer to collect them used as they are cheaper that way.
There are many more hand-stamped ones. The towns that issued
them are available on lists from specialist societies. as are the
years of use. You could get a collection of these totaling more
than a thousand different.

The precancels of Luxembourg are either very cheap or very hard
to find and expensive. A good specialty for a masocist. Tunisia,
Algeria and Monaco can be completely collected for a small
amount of money. The early precancels of France are expensive.
The rest are cheap and make a colorful little collection.

The precancels of the Netherlands are a well kept secret.

In addition, the countries of Austria, Hungary, France and
Turkey had laws that allowed the attaching of newspaper
stamps, newspaper tax stamps, and revenues to newspapers
before the newspapers were printed. This resulted in some
of these stamps being cancelled with newsprint.

An interesting collection is so see how many different
languages you can find on Austrian newspaper stamps.
These stamps are not all that rare in most cases, but
they are not all that easy to find either.

Blair

At a recent local club mtg we were discussing that topic and in general
it would appear that most stamps regardless of country of origin have
increased in value (according to Scott). However I won't hold my breath
on my meager holdingsG.
John

wrote:
Howdy - Doo...

Does anyone know if there were ever any hand stamped precancels? I
have the precancel catalogs from the Society, but don't have them
available at the moment.

I see cancels that "look" like precancels, but they look more like
parcel cancels - rectangular, with city and state between the
obligatory bars on top and bottom.

If there are private hand stamp precancels, oops... I have been
overlooking them and tossing them into my U.S. packets. I just don't
remember seeing anywhere where there were hand stamped precancels.

Tracy

On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 16:32:29 -0600, John DeBoo
wrote:

Tracy, try posting your Q to the Precancel Yahoo list. Although traffic
is extremely low, there are some very knowledgeable people that
subscribe (free). It's not affiliated with the Precancel society,
however a number of their members are subscribers.

John, thanks... I'm on Yahoo for a few other groups, so I may as well
check it out. You're right that there have been some knowledgeable
people in some of the groups out there.


wrote:
Howdy - Doo...

Does anyone know if there were ever any hand stamped precancels? I
have the precancel catalogs from the Society, but don't have them
available at the moment.

I see cancels that "look" like precancels, but they look more like
parcel cancels - rectangular, with city and state between the
obligatory bars on top and bottom.

If there are private hand stamp precancels, oops... I have been
overlooking them and tossing them into my U.S. packets. I just don't
remember seeing anywhere where there were hand stamped precancels.

Tracy

On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 16:37:35 -0600, John DeBoo
wrote:

At a recent local club mtg we were discussing that topic and in general
it would appear that most stamps regardless of country of origin have
increased in value (according to Scott). However I won't hold my breath
on my meager holdingsG.

Maybe this was / is to reflect how the rest of the world "values"
them? We need a stamp club up here in the mountains. Hmmm...

I'm not cashing in the chips (oops!) yet. There's no world cruise,
except that I now have envelopes of stamps that were almost worthless
before that seem to be valued a lot more than before. More expensive
baggage.

I won't be moving on up to that big apartment in the city anytime
soon. I've ignored CV for so long that when I looked at recent
valuations, they have got me thinking about them again.

Tracy


wrote:
Howdy - Doo...

Does anyone know if there were ever any hand stamped precancels? I
have the precancel catalogs from the Society, but don't have them
available at the moment.

I see cancels that "look" like precancels, but they look more like
parcel cancels - rectangular, with city and state between the
obligatory bars on top and bottom.

If there are private hand stamp precancels, oops... I have been
overlooking them and tossing them into my U.S. packets. I just don't
remember seeing anywhere where there were hand stamped precancels.

Tracy

On Aug 15, 11:06 am, wrote:
Howdy - Doo...

Does anyone know if there were ever any hand stamped precancels?

Here's some yet to be discovered.
(put your name in lights?
http://cjoint.com/data/iqcaFxw8cw.htm